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Teo, Cookie wouldn't want you to mention she is also a Grandma! And don't forget Sweetpolly and that beauty Regal Blue LS just like mine...
As you know Modern Maturity magazine is something for senior reading and covers topics reserved for us mature citizens..
The Impala for the last year has replaced the LeSabre on the two-pages inside front cover car..How do you like that; for all you youngsters are driving the #1 old-fart car..
Really should make you feel good because it cuddles you like the old farts did once..
Do I love motor mouths or not????
I'll be 51 next month. Got tired of the nasty 605 Ultra Drive transmission in my '91 Grand Voyager, plus my guys are at the leaving home age. My wife and I were ready to leave the minivan set! When my younger son told my older son what we bought the response was "I knew when I left they would get a big fast car!" When my wife and I met - she had a dog '78 Mustang and I had a '80 Datsun 200SX w/ 5spd.
Dave
Worst part was I saw his friends turned around and laughing. =/
As for what cars can be beaten. Well I love racing those "cool" guys with their girlfriends, nothing better than beating some 18 year old driving a little honda while his little girlfriend watches.
Now if they only made a 5 speed manual trans....mmmmmmmmmmmm
1. 1971 LeMans (1 yr)
2. 1970 Chevelle Malibu (16 years & paid $300 )
3. 1971 Camaro 350/4sp (1 year)
4. 1972 Chevelle (1 winter)
5. 1985 Monte Carlo SS (11 years and counting, 93k)
6. 1991 S-10 Blazer 4x4 (6 years and counting 162k)
7. 2000 Impala LS (1.5 years, 4,600 miles)
I feel like an old man on this site, will be 37 a month from tomorrow.
One grown son(28 in december) He left home years ago. Yep we started the kid thing young. I was a grandfather at 42.
Impalaboy2001 call Super Chip. They have a re-programer for the 3.8 if my old memory serves. ((-;
Carwise; I currently own 12 vehicles and 1 car trailer. I found another Crosley wagon in the San Diego area, maybe 13 cars soon.
Mind you, not all of these cars run & drive. Only 6 run & drive.
Tony
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/impala/
Glad I didn't try this without the manual...
Chris
http://store.yahoo.com/spoilers4less/consplasguar43.html
Has anyone tried these yet?
I recommend the GM guards made specifically for the '00-02 Impala. The rear pair need to be modified somewhat with a knife for the '01 and possibly '02. For more info on the modification, go to http://home.hawaii.rr.com/impala/Rear_splash_guard.html
The part numbers are 12496349 (front) and 12496350 (rear), and are available from www.partszoneonline.com for $22 a pair. It should take about 45 minutes to install all 4.
For the new 2002 owners: Any visible differences?
I know that the first major refreshning of the Impala is to take place in 2003.
Garypen: welcome, you're new to me, but I know right where you are on the CL/Impala comparison. My next door neighbor and great friend bought a CL after watching me wash and wax my Impala for a year. She loves her car. I've ridden in it many times and I can clearly see the differences in the fit and finish of her car. She's not the world's greatest driver, so I don't know about the power, and pick up differences. But I still love my Impala WAY better. I know I paid much less than she did for her car and got a great engine and plenty of room. It's all in the priorities. (P.S., I would LOVE to replace the tires on my car as well, but haven't had the extra $500 laying around yet...)
20-somthings: We're covered in slackers on this board now!!! Yes, I'm 37 and a grandma (step), so I believe that beats you all!!!!
Vacation: Used that bench front seat many times during vacation. The other families came in a Honda accord and a Chevy Tahoe (2-door) and my car carried the most people with the best comfort. Good thing that 7 year old digs riding up front tho... I wouldn't want to cram myself into that middle spot for more than 10 miles or so...hehehe.
The visable difference in the 2002s is that Teo and I won't be in the brochure... Sigh... Good thing I have about 50 copies in my pantry just to re-live those days of fame.
Car was terrific the whole week. Did a lot of demanding drivng looking for property and was especially impressed that i never had a creak or a rattle. Even over washboard gravel roads. The ride quality was excellent over these rough roads.
That is quite a feat considering i had 33-34lbs of air in the front tires.
Excellent mountain car, as good as my intrigue in the twisties. Better ride quality to boot.
The extra inch of wheelbase offers more rear legroom and my mom and my sister never complained.
Trunk was big enough for all of our stuff too.
The only thing i was dsappointed in was the gas mileage. I was expecting 30 mpg and never broke into the 28 mpg range.
The DIC is very accurate on long trips. On the way up the DIC said 27.8 mpg and i recorded 27.75 mpg.
I am a fast driver and set the cruise between 79-81 mph. There seems to be a 2 mpg difference between 79 mph and 81 mph.
On the way back from Atlanta we took a two lane road and would say that the passing power is adequate. This is where my intrigue excelled.
The impala screams for a DOHC motor. It would really make the car.
By the way, the impala's seats are much more comfortable than the intrigue's.
Good to be back, although i am missing the 75 degree temperatures that i left in NC.
Great report...the Impala is an excellent road trip car!
Brad
Impalaboy2001 age 21
spider717 age 21
roderacer age 23
bbrowne74 age 27
teo age 29
andrew48 age late 20's/early 30's
jeffreyw1 age 31
casl age 32
daveleck age 32
hvan3 age 32
mediumfry age 33
phollan age 33
impalamom age 33
00impala age 33
bh0001 age 35
cookie01 age 37
b4z age 38
hunter39 age 39
crosley age 47
wyoimp age 50
With 20 participants, the average age for Impala owners on this board is 32.80 years old. Seven of us happen to fall in the range of 32/33 (including me).
If you had him beat, then there's no way he would have known that the engine shuts off at 110mph. Technically, you won the race if you had the lead most of the way.
Consider yourself lucky that the engine shuts off at 110mph. You could have been killed if it lasted longer.
I prefer to race at the light. If I had him beat after 1/2 mile, I turn on my emergency flasher and let him know that I won. It's crazy to speed on the rode over 100mph for long duration. It has to end somewhere. That's why I only race up to 1/2 mile.
Just be safe guys and gals. I know the Impala has kick-[non-permissible content removed] safety and restraint systems, but I don't want to hear about any of you getting to see just how well the On-Star Emergency systems work!
RR
Of course that's besides being dangerous and, when it comes right down to it, pointless.
Sure would suck to kill a family of four or a van full of nuns because of a "spitting" contest.
I am glad they did
I don't believe the last last time I floored the gas that I emailed my Congressperson and ask them whether it was alright or not..Hope we never have to defend ourselves to keep us free with some of the questions being put forth on this forum.
One is responsible for their own actions...period we leave it at that level..Adult style..
The Contour SVT topped out at 142 so the plain Jane Sport Model is a 170hp V-6 with an unknown to me top end..
At 67 I do my bit of fast pedaling for it is a way of life to get from A to B..It's done defensive to put it in a proper and acceptable mode..
What is the difference btw a Splash shield and a good old fashioned Mud Flap??? no reflector??
I'm not talking about driving fast, which is usually safe. I'm talking about street racing, which usually isn't.
BTW, I'm from NY. I only live in California. You're right. California is a terrible place. They put pineapple on pizza, and blueberries in bagels. I blame the governement.
mentioned I'm working on my daughter's wedding plans in 7 1/2 weeks
that will give away both age and what I'm up to. Took the Impala to the Brickyard race over the weekend and my best guy JEFF GORDON WON
IN A CHEVY!!! (That's an in your face for Ford, Pontiac, and Dodge I guess) The 3 adult men in the car all loved the looks, ride and features- all happy with plenty of leg room and the 4 door- that's why I couldn't go with the great looking Monte Carlo (also costs more in insurance even though the sticker price is lower) ! You could give me that good looking yellow pace car anytime and I'd drive it home (yellow is not my fav. but for a pace car and a gift,I'd not complain)
. Only glitch lately in my Impala is loose trim on the passenger
side. I'll get them to fix it in a few weeks at my oil change. Most cars now do not need the premium gas unless it's specified in the manual - according to spouse who works in gas stations. Best to all. BDIME
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I cannot find ANY chips for the Impala, the only thing I could find was this gadget.
Have had my 02 for all of 5 days. Thought I'd tell you my sense of the Pro's and Con's to date:
Pros
- Looks - nicest looking car out there (Silver, with a dual black pinstripe)
- Handling - Has a European feel IMO
- Quiet as hell (or is that heaven)
- Radio/Tape/CD - Great Sound System
- Steering wheel radio controls
- The smell of the Leather. My first car with it
- Layout of the dash and controls
- Room galore with the bench
- Ability to adjust all the electronic features is great (although I am leaving the factory settings for now)
- Trunk is huge
- Solid and safe all around feeling
Cons
- I know I am big (6:1, 225), but the sides of the leather bench seat are 'puffed', ostensibly to better hold you in place, and they annoy the hell out of the outside of my left leg. Feels like a loaf of French bread is under my leg. Did not notice that when sitting on a cloth bench. Any ideas how to remedy will be appreciated.
- The middle/left vent cannot be adjusted to 'not' blow air in my face, so I shut it off. In fact the far left and right vents can't be adjusted to blow at the driver/passenger window. Don't know why they limited the adjustments.
- The ride is silky on smooth pavements, but run over a penny in the road, and you feel it. Maybe that is the beefier suspension with the 3.8. I did not notice that snesitivity in the rental I had. For a car that is so quiet, and smooth, I find that annoying. Have Goodyear GA Tires. Not sure if it is the tires. Any feedback will be appreciated.
Overall, on a scale of 100, I give it a 90.
Frank
only Chevy in my future would be a Z-28; the Impala is a cost cutter committee engineered car..using the std parts from the bin..The exterior quality is a shame and that is only from reading the forum remarks for I have never sat in one..
Age will mellow the sharp tongues...that's a proven...so there is hope!!!!!
The extremely poor crash test results on the Intrigue only reaffirm the fact that GM dropped the ball in the safety dept. The only good thing about the Intrigue is the engine, but the rest of it you can have it.
The Intrigue is gone and its engine is gone too along with Oldsmobile. The Impala still is a better car, its far outsells the stale Intrigue and has better resale value.
Whether you like it or not, those are the facts. The Intrigue is history, the Impala will continue..
gw
BTW, ALL CARS from ALL MAJOR CAR COMPANIES are designed, engineered and approved by committee. There are endless meetings, market research, and Powerpoint presentations. That's the way it is in the global corporate culture. Why you would think one GM car is and another isn't is beyond me, and, quite frankly, makes no sense.
Does the Impala still have the common wiper/cruise control stalk on the steering column???? Left hand side..
I noticed you are a great believer in the crash data and since these cars all share a common undercarraige to some extent they should be equally crash resistant..
Last item for our little discussion is the amount of miles you have piled on two Impalas versus the miles in my semi-retirement mode of Intriguing..If I remember correctly your first Impala was around 18/20 when it was repurchased and your current one is maybe 2k miles..My 98 Intrigue went 26k and the 99 is approaching 49k..Lots of difference in mileage and my driving style is not sparing the rubber..You need a little more time behind the wheel and stop believing all the editorial garbage.
As stated the Impala is a soft cuddly car and the Intrigue is a half-[non-permissible content removed] stab by GM to compete in a very crowded segment..
I certainly will get my moneys worth out of the Intrigue for it has some rough edges; but for total reliability it been flawless..it enjoys cruising at 85 in 100 degree weather without a whimper..If it blows up we pick up the cell phone and call the 800 number..
After the 3.5 experience and it's lust for the top; there is no return to the drony 3.8 setup..The SC version of the 3.8 is a waste of money to obtain 240HP and requiring premium fuel is a downer..
You really owned a five cylinder Acura?????
The same roads that were rough and bumpy in the intrigue last year were smoothed out by the impala this year.
Handling in the mountains was excellent.
Open up the back door of your intrigue and you will see a weld where two parts of the sill come together.
In the impala it is one piece, which includes the rear fender. This alone explains the impala's better crash ratings and stiffer body structure.
Having said that, the 2002 Altima is incredible looking car and i might very well go for one shortly.
3200 lbs. 240 hp. DOHC V6. Wow!
This car was made in Japan, light years away from the current crop of Ohio grown Acura TL/CL's.
The Engine was mounted longitudinally not horizontally and it still was FWD. Very unsual setup only found on older Volvos and Audis..
You need to drive an Impala LS for it appears that you have a lot of prejudices against a car that as you say, you haven't even been inside of it.
The LS has a tight quick ratio steering which is totally different from the setup found in the Base Impala with the 3.4 engine. Don't believe me?
Take it for a test drive or ask B4z who just came back from the mountains on his Impala LS.
The Impala no longer uses the Roger Smith era multifunction stalk. Cruise control buttons and remote stereo buttons are located in the steering wheel hub, where they are intended to be. They are extremely easy and intuitive to operate without taking your eyes off the road and are illuminated to boot at night.
The Left stalk only has the ON/OFF switch for the Cruise control, the wiper controls and the turn signals. You can also activate the high beams by pressing the stalk towards you.
Next time you go by your Chevy dealer, try an Impala LS and then come back to praise/rant about it.
The Intrigue is and will always be a W Body car like the Impala. Most parts come from the General's parts bin, I don't know where you grab this idea that the Intrigue is made like the Olds of OLD with separate parts, chassis, engines, etc...that was ended during the Roger Smith regime!!!
The Impala LS is a fantastic car far more desirable than your Intrigue.
I drive around 1200 miles per month give or take in slow bumper to bumper traffic in the Florida heat....that's an endurance test for any car.
Go and trade your Intrigue pronto for the Camaro Z28, for the resale value of the Intrigue will keep on plummeting!!!
That 2002 Nissan Altima looks tempting!!! Umm my wife might go for it!
If you get the Altima, would you keep the Impala?
That will be a nice combo to keep in the garage..
My Intrigue has depreciated to a stable level and another 20/25k miles won't hurt the value.. Since it's mine, the motivation to drive it is impelling in these unsure economic times..
Did anyone ever see a 6 mo recession??? teo, you are too young; but b4z is old enough to remember..
At my age, slowdowns are usually 2/3 yrs..History is the only data to rely on; but the buying public is running out of money and credit..