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I think Canada is a more organized, cleaner version of the USA. With less than half the population and double the land mass!
The full size b-body was completely redesigned and downsized for 1977. In 1980 it was freshened.
1985 was the last year for the impala until the '94 Impala SS.
Do we count an exterior change on the same chassis as a generation? Probably.
The 1980 freshening didn't have a different dash though. So I guess from 1977-1989 was one generation.
1971-1976 would be another.
Gm was changing these things almost every year before that.
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Not to mention the 1979-86 Mercury Capri,1978-83 Fairmont/Futura/Zeyphr, 1981-82 Granada/Cougar 4dr.,1983-86 LTD/Marquis(small)I forgot the ugliest incarantion the 1980-82 Ford Thunderbird/Cougar..and the 1983-88 Thunderbird/Cougar....How is that for Inter-changeable parts?.....all based on the FOX Platform.......Don
Brad
How about Japan? 150 million people, roughly half that of the US, in a country the size of California, and maybe only 25% of that land is usable! (Mountains and such over 75% of it)
Don't see too many Impalas in Japan! I did see a couple of "Toyota" Cavaliers. Back in 88, I saw a white T-bird. US cars are usually driven by mafia. The luxury car buyers looking for a foreign marquee seem to prefer German.
An aside . . .
Just got back from a 1000 mile business trip and couldn't help but notice a lot of very B-I-G, last of the breed 1996 RWD GM vehicles on the road:
CHEVROLET IMPALA (were they only made in black?)
BUICK ROADMASTER
. . . and my personal favorite
CADILLAC FLEETWOOD
'58-60
'61-64
'65-70
'71-76
'77-79
'80-85(thru '89 as Caprice)
'94-96(as Impala SS and '90-96 as Caprice)
'00-02
I seperated the '77-89 years because of all new sheetmetal in 1980.e
Talk about history! Few nameplates have ben around
for 44 years.
How did you figure that 58-60, 61-64 and so forth were generations? Back then they had planned obsolescence so they were re designed every year, the concept of "generations" was introduced with the imports I believe.
C1 1953-62
C2 1963-67
C3 1968-82
C4 1984-96
C5 1997-02
There was no 1983 Corvette.
1st generation camaro was from 67-69. 2nd gen from 70-81, but the 2nd gen was built on the first gen floorpan. Same wheelbase even.
3rd gen was completely new. 4th gen was built on same floorpan(strengthened)and also the same wheelbase.
Don't know what the criteria is.
The body was changed
This car will be a true replacement to the 1994-96 Impala SS. Perhaps Chevy will get it and it will be rebadged Impala SS.
V8, 300HP+ power going to the rear wheels on a sedan weighing less than 3,500 pounds is way too tempting.
Bob Lutz is working hard at restoring GM's performance credentials in North America.
Would you let go of your Bonneville?
I dislike the cheaper Jag's of the Ford era...the new X-type and the S-type.
Shoot. You can even get a 6 cylinder model, circa 1995, for under $18K, maybe more like $15-16K, or a 96 for under $20K. Even with a six, it's still got 322 horses.
The current US GM entry in the performance sedan market? The horrifically ugly CTS. It's practically an abomination. Has anyone seen the new commercial with that monstrocity cruising next to a beautiful classic convertible Caddy? It only makes the CTS look that much uglier.
It makes you wonder if BMW, MB, and Ford/Jaguar/Volvo don't have double agents working in the top ranks of GM.
On the other hand, that Holden Commodore SS is the real deal. I want one!!
I'd like to see more of that Commodore.
Also the wheel wells need to opened up. It makes the tires look too small.
I also feel the olds aurora was made too narrow.
It has less room inside than the intrigue.
http://www.autonews.com/article.cms?articleId=38213
I'm back! I've been shopping on Ebay! (auctions) and haven't devoted any time to the forum. And to make matters worst, my Chevy dealer's service dept. caught fire and I heard 7 cars were burned up! Glad I didn't take mine in! My car is running OK, I still have hesitation every now and then, but, it doesn't happen as frequently as it used to. I'm living with it. Although I currently plan to keep my Impala, I may buy something else when the warranty is up. I think there's going to be a lot of new and redesigned cars coming down the pike and I can't wait to see them. Another thing, some kid reared his car into the side of my car, but the damage was so minimal I didn't do anything about it. His insurance was expired and he didn't speak english too well. So, I gave him some slack (along with the fact that I hate being without my car! and shelling out the deductible!) Hope it doesn't come back to bite me! Anyway, I'll get back to you once I catch up with the messages. I'm only at #7389! You guys (and gals) have been really busy! Colchester, glad to see you're still around! and Teo, you're the man! glad to see you're still providing us with informative words of wisdom (and wry humor in some cases )!
And the Holden looks like a cross between a Honda Accord and a Saturn. Especially around the rear glass. Color matched instrument panel?
When they say it's an "alloy" engine, does that mean an alumnium block and heads? *shudder*
I think there is a TSB for the hesitation.
Thanks for the info on the hesitation fix. Do you know what the TSB number is for the hesitation fix?
McDill, did you graduate yet? Still driving the parents' car? Good to see you're still around!
Reason I ask is that I had mine changed at the 15K service, which I know was probably WAY overdue.
The Impala can breathe freely and I can tell. Feels like an 8 without the beautiful rumble. Torque up the wazzoo!
RR
The Impala SS was certainly a much nicer looking alternative to the standard Caprice.
My carpool buddy had one of the first 91 Caprices and it felt like a barge - floaty and ponderous. The interior, however, was very comfortable.
Ken
I think GM's biggest hesitation problem is their hesitation to write a TSB. Not to belittle the engine hesitation problems.