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Here's the punch line--GM BUYPOWER DOESN'T LIST A 2001 OLDSMOBILE BRAVADA!! I e-mailed them and asked whats up. Their response--this gets funnier and funnier--was that Oldsmobile didn't make the Bravada for 2001, but it would return as a 2002! I sent them the VIN for the one for sale, as well as the VINs for three USED 2001 Bravadas for sale on THEIR certified GM used car site, and asked, are you SURE? Their answer? "Perhaps you should go to Oldsmobile.com for your answer." Hilarious! When you go to Oldsmobile.com and click on the ready-to-buy button, guess where they send you?!? TO THE GM BUYPOWER SITE!!
By the way, if you want to see for yourself, go to the web site, and try to get information about building or buying a 2001 Oldsmobile Bravada. As of five minutes ago, the 2001 Bravada STILL doesn't exist on their web site!
Where's Rod Serling when you need him?
Isn't this the same car that Cadillac spent several million dollars advertising on the Super Bowl, telling us that they are now available?
Oh well, maybe they are on the same storage lot as the 2001 Bravadas.
"We no longer have this car on the lot but we can order you one"
Thanks but no thanks. (We decided to keep our current car anyway.)
access we consumers have is limited, and the dealers have more info.
Also, that best price baloney is way off target. A dealer gave me a "best price" which was 600 bucks higher than two dealers gave me when I visited their lots in person.
I'm about to swallow hard and actually go face-to-face it with a live salesman (arrgh!).
Fords website is hands-down the winner there. When you "build" a vehicle and then search for it, it actually brings up vehicles like you are looking for, then gives vehicles that were close and even red flags the differences. Great thinking.
I hate having to look at each Monroney that looks like it may be around the MSRP of what I'm looking for. It's not very intuitive.
Example: I was trying to estimate my payment on the lease of a Tahoe LT with an MSRP of $45,030 and a purchase price of $40,507.
No way to do it!!!!!!!!!
It won't let you change the MSRP so it had the MSRP as a base LT ($38,xxx). Of course the depreciation on that amount and the price that I was going to pay was much different than actual.
Poor GM. Us loyals keep coming back but they need some real brains over there.
Uhhh, not in my experience. My wifes 91 Sunbird broke the input shaft on that unit, and it was driven by the 2.0L OHC engine. Mileage on the car was about 72K when we got rid of it, (one transmission and two headgaskets later)
My 87 LeSabre lunched it's tranny at 91K miles after religous service on the tranny every 30K miles.
Nope, give me a manual every time.
Back to your topic.
TB
Back to the topic, my experience with GM buypower is that it's just a way for GM to advertise; if you want the best price you have to visit dealers and make them offers.
and via GM Buypower...true as noted above it wont
let you build and have system search for the car
you want....but I think it's a great help to avoid
DRIVING to each dealership. And, don't be silly
about phoning for inventory...some sales guys will
say anything to get you into the store. I have
found the buypower site to be acccurate with
inventory.
The big "But", pardon the expression, is that
some archaic dealers are not on it. There is one
dealer here in Orange County Cal next to a huge
senior citizen's project who is not on it, prob
figuring that the geriatric set is not into com-
puters. So, even if the inventory is accurate,
you may miss some dealers. Similarly, some stores
just will not acknowledge your request for a quote
Bet these are the slimy stores who will take 4
hours to make the deal and then be slippery in the
F&I Room.
I shopped Buick Rendezvous via 2 buy power
quote requests...a San Diego store ignored me, the
Long Beach store not only gave me a price quote
but answered my ? about lease rate/money factor.
And, the quote price as xlnt...met the net guy
too and he was great. He didn't have exact unit
I want (dont want 3rd seat), and instead I've
decided to go to Hawaii for 6 months...but buypwr
was great with the right dealer!
trained Buypower person in order to be on it.
One of the larger dealers near me wasn't on buypower untill recently...............
In 48 hours both responded. The closest dealer's price was invoice. The Buypower person was the sales manager. The second dealer was $500 above invoice. Their Buypower person was the Internet Manager.
I called the invoice dealer to confirm there were no "catches" (there wasn't), so I went down the next day to buy the vehicle. Since there was no further negotiations needed (he did throw in a free oil change), the paperwork and prep time took about 1.5 hours and away I went in my new truck!! Invoice minus the rebate ($2000 at the time) was quite reasonable to me. What could be easier? I'd use Buypower again without hesitation.
Bob
My main point was that Ford's version (Ok, I admit it, I was actually thinking of an Expedition until my sanity took hold) is much better.
I liked that on Ford's, it would bring up a list that compared them to the one I had "built". It would then note the differences, where applicable. The GM site is just so time consuming since you have to actually look at the sticker to see how it compares.
The big problem I have with the service is the way the search works. Searching one dealership at a time for one specific model? Very slow! If I search for a car, I should be able to choose how specific my search is, and define a searchable radius of dealerships.
And I would also like if dealerships would post sale prices on the site rather than automatic sticker, but that's just wishful thinking.