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  • kkcymrukkcymru Posts: 48
    Check the vehicle locator option for different dealers on the mazdausa homepage.

    When I checked for Washington DC area there were lots and lots of "shimmering sand". Midnight blue and black mica were less common, and I think there were more midnight blue than black.

    One of my top choices, coastal blue seems to be rare, especially in ES version.

    And of course RED is unavailable.
  • bob57bob57 Posts: 302
    My 'DX01 with Yoko tires was a little "squirrely" during the first few weeks. Through an oil change the mechanic (unknown to me)inflated the Yoko's to 36 from 34psi. I noticed the MPV handling improved but didn't know why. Found out later the reason when I saw him do it the second time. Since then I keep the tires at that pressure. I can feel it when one of the tires drops a couple of pounds. I have not rotated and the tread wear is very little at 28+k miles. I mentioned this before - my driving is 80% freeways @65~70mph which I think is why the tread wear is better than expected.
    On a 300 mile trip last weekend with 5 adults and luggage I inflated to 38 rear and kept the front at 36. Cruised at 70mph w/AC (hey, it's Texas...) and ended up with 22.4mpg. Steady as a rock.
    I love this van!
  • bean3422bean3422 Posts: 183
    You are correct....I apologize. I still think it is risky purchasing a tire whose maximum cold inflation is the same as the vehicles minimum cold inflation. It is hard to achieve that balance. Which is why the MPV comes with a stock tire that has 51 psi cold maximum, and Mazda recommends 35 psi cold minimum. Thus you have 16 psi to work with.

    Thanks for the correction...
  • bob57bob57 Posts: 302
    If I asked you to send rain to Texas from that "other" state up there last month because of the heat here - Stop!!!
    Never saw the snow you threaten but this is getting a little deep here...
    Send wood for ark instead.
    :))
  • sd1228sd1228 Posts: 46
    First of all, I second the motion for stopping the
    rain in Sounth and Central Texas.
    (Last week it rained 14 inches in 2 days in some
    places. There was some pause, but here it goes
    again)

    I am winding down to final decision in terms of
    buying MPV. I need to decide between 2 Sand ES's.
    (Moonroof, CD changer etc.). One with 4 seasons
    and the one without.
    The one with has 250 miles on it (could it
    be all those test drives ?). The other one has
    a lot less (30 or so)
    Also when I test drove (the one with 4 seasons),
    brakes made slight noise. Is it a big concern ?

    BTW, the deal is similar for both. 1% over invoice
    minus 2K rebate. (There is 237 $ ad fee)

    What do you guys think about the deal ?
    Also which MPV should I prefer, one with 4 seasons
    and 250 miles or one without.
    250 miles kind of concern me. Am I right ?
  • pjd58pjd58 Posts: 366
    I'm glad we have the 4 seasons pkg, but we live in Ohio, not Texas. Although, the tranny cooler and larger radiator are beneficial in any climate and only can help prolong the life of your MPV's components.

    I agree 250 miles is alot on a new van, our MPV had only 14 miles after our test drive. Maybe it was used in a dealer trade, check the sticker and see if its from your dealer. I would ask for some compensation for 250 miles.......Free installed rear step plate(must have IMO), a few free oil changes etc.

    Your deal sounds great. In my region, I would rather take the $1000 back and 0% for 60.

    Good luck,
    Pjd58
  • pjd58pjd58 Posts: 366
    I was watching CNN, and saw Allen Iverson entering a Philadelphia Police Headquarters garage riding in a brand new MPV. I believe his attorney was driving........I'm sure Allen doesn't own a MPV. At least he had a nice ride on the way to Jail:)

    Pjd58
  • basurfbasurf Posts: 42
    I ended up inflating both rear and front tires to 35psi cold per the sticker on the drivers door. I will see how that runs...since typically it is EXTREMELY hot in south Texas that is probably good to go with if that is min. pressure. I may bump it to 36psi. When you guys talk about load do you load up your van then adjust the pressure?

    Sd1228 - My "new" van had 400 miles on it. They did not compensate me didly. ~280 of that was the drive from the dealer it was at to get it to my dealer. Which still leaves quite a bit of miles on it I assume test driving since it was on their lot since 3/2002. So far so good though it is a great van.
  • smarssmars Posts: 32
    Looks like Beachnut finally got his 16" wheels. I was kinda hoping to pick 'em up cheep for myself. Just picked up my new LX last night, so its hard to justify new wheels yet.
  • vvgvvg Posts: 10
    Bean3422 wrote: "The amount listed on the tire from the tire manufacturer is the MAXIMUM HOT pressure that the tire can handle."

    I beg to differ. The tire #'s are always cold, for the simple reason that it's impossible to define hot. I'd probably have to rejoin SAE again to find a paper on the topic, but there is undoubtedly an industry specification that defines cold - probably 68 degrees F. You can verify this on every tire manufacturer's website. They understand that the tires will run hot, and base their recommendations on maximum load and operating conditions. I did email Michelin to ask for the "official" cold temp, since that's what I have on my cars.
  • bean3422bean3422 Posts: 183
    In that post, I reniged my statement...I apologize for any confusion I may have caused. You are absolutely correct. I still stand by my statement that purchasing a tire for the MPV with a maximum cold pressure of 35 psi is not a good idea. Unless you are absolutely sure that your gauge is accurate, you still stand a chance of either underinflating based on Mazda's recommendation, or overinflating base on the tire company's recommendation. My advice is to just be careful and aware when purchasing tires. With the Dunlop sp4000 stock tires, there is no question that you will be able to stay within the acceptable range.
  • beachnutbeachnut Posts: 291
    Since Bean mentioned them, thought I'd pass along that I picked up a set of these tires yesterday from eBay. These will be the first Dunlops I've ever owned. They're dealer takeoffs, have less than 500 miles, and are mounted on a set of oem Mazda alloys, which are the 5-spoke 16" ones that come with the '02 Lux Pkg ..... can't wait to upgrade the MPV!
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    Record your slalom times before and after the upgrade. That's all we really care about...
  • kkcymrukkcymru Posts: 48
    I was searching local dealer inventories for an MPV that matched my desired configuration using the vehicle locator at mazdausa.com and came across an interesting configuration. It was sage green with black/beige (vs. typical beige) leather and had a carbon fiber dash. I called the dealer who said it was a standard Mazda configuration, and not an aftermarket modification. (In fact it hadn't actually arrived on the lot yet from Mazda so he couldn't look at it himself to see if anything else was different).

    Has anyone heard of this? Is this a special addition, or will there be more arriving like this?
  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    of our new ES in the picture gallery!

    -Brian
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    Congrats on the wheels! I really like the 'Lops, they are quiet and very sticky---couldn't get them to squeal even on the mountain turns.

    BTW, 6 cd changer works great. We use it because it is there. Loaded it up with Odyssey tapes for the weekend trip to bay area. Really like the steering wheel controls for volume adjustment.

    Happy zooming!
  • prlamzprlamz Posts: 78
    We recently completed our across country trip: LA-MA-LA. Here are the numbers: 7174 miles with a mileage of 19.16 mpg. The 2002 MPV carried 2 small adults, 3 small children, 2 small dogs and a small trailer (3x5x3). We usually drove above 70 mph and with the A/C on.
    My biggest surprise, besides a glimpse at a herd of camel, was the number of minivans on the road. They really rule. Amongst those, the GM triplets, a rarity here, seemed quite common elsewhere.
    The van performed flawlessly, clearing the Eisenhower tunnel (11,500') with ease. My only real pet peeves were the lack of visibility of the A/C button (because of the shifter and also when sunlight hits it) and the phony random mode of the CD changer. The kids were really helped by the freshly installed DVD system, and so were we.
    My wife told me after the trip that she's completely in love with the van. :-)
    We had, at times, seven people in it, without any complaint, although nobody was near 6'.

    Congratulations to all the new purchasers.
  • tbcreativetbcreative Posts: 357
    It's a beautiful van! Boy, that color looks really sharp, and has me thinking that maybe we don't need to wait and hope that the red will come back or that Mazda will offer the Millenium Red...

    Very nice. Enjoy!
  • javadocjavadoc Posts: 1,167
    Wow, a guy takes off to kill some fish for a couple of days, and this board gets busy!

    Bob: I'll send you some drift wood. :-)

    Beach: Congrats! Those rims are schweeet, glad you got them!

    Subearu: Awesome! Glad you pulled the trigger!

    /java
  • asa0526asa0526 Posts: 26
    I just bought my MPV LX 2002 - midnight blue - with rear a/c, floor mats, roof racks. Got about $2500 off from below invoice. I actually wanted COASTAL BLUE color but I had been looking for over a month ... and they were either ES or LX with spoiler and no rear-a/c.
    1. My concern is - if I had a transmission cooler, would that affect the warranty ?
    I don't do serious hauling but I just want some peace of mind on the transmission as some Mazdas in the past have some lousy transmissions (i.e. Protege 1995 - 1998, Mazda 626 1992 - 1997).

    I don't plan on doing any hauling ... just my regular travel with 3 kids plus wife and our stuff. Still, I want to be on the safe side.

    Thanks.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    Your warranty is fine as long as it is done right. If you were to have a trans problem they would scrutinize it, but a neat and tidy installation will keep most dealers happy.
  • mobydmobyd Posts: 2
    On my recent 286 mile trip I posted 22.3 mpg, 2/3 highway driving ac on most of the way-just me I have just over 500 mi. total so far
  • sd1228sd1228 Posts: 46
    Folks,
    Finally I have my MPV-ES (Sand color) with
    moonroof etc + 4 seasons.
    I love the way it drives and looks.
    This is my 2nd mazda (I have 95 Protege' with 115K
    miles)
    I hope this new van serves me as well or even
    better.
    Thank you everybody for making this discussion
    board a great place to hang out and exchange
    ideas and experiences. It made my choice of van
    almost too easy.
    Looking forward to many happy miles and many interesting discussions with fellow tow-hall'ers!
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,547
    My money was riding on you getting the 4 Seasons one :-)

    Congrats!

    Steve
    Host
    SUVs, Vans and Aftermarket & Accessories Message Boards

    Moderator
    Minivan fan. Feel free to message or email me - stever@edmunds.com.

  • First congrats sd1228! I'm about to take the plunge for the exact same van - a Sand ES with 4 seasons and moonroof. The one I found also comes with a 6 CD changer that I don't really want. I'm curious as to what you paid for it, relative to the invoice, if you don't mind sharing. The dealer I talked to offered to take "a couple hundred" off the invoice, before rebates.
  • mark747mark747 Posts: 1
    With a toddler and another on the way, we decided that it was minivan time. I did more research and test driving than I had for any previous car purchase. I found this discussion board very helpful. We decided size matters, and went for the MPV because it will fit in the garage and is easy to manuever and park. Also, the power doors and hideaway rear seat was a must. The fact that it looks the best and handles the best was a plus. We could have waited till the baby arrived, but the prices are too tempting. We bought a Silver ES for Invoice+$100-rebate.
  • sd1228sd1228 Posts: 46
    I got 1% above invoice - 2K rebate.
    One problem that I found here in Austin is all
    the Mazda dealerships are owned by the same guy.
    So there wasn't much of choice.
    Also, 4 seasons package is hard to come by here
    as dealer claims that it is targeted for cold weather places.
    (This is already discussed on this board. So
    don't want to repeat it)
    Couple of hundred below invoice is a great deal.
    Also I got financing from PeopleFirst.com (4.79%
    for 36 months) They are wonderful !
  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    4 seasons are easy to find here, it's ANY MPV with a moonroof that's hard to find.

    invoice + $100 - $2000 rebate. And to verify, I browsed around at cardirect.com and here at edmunds (TMV) for my area too. They jived with my price, so I'm happy with it.

    -Brian
  • pjd58pjd58 Posts: 366
    Congrats! Good luck, many happy, safe miles.

    Pjd58
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