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Lsinc
I feel for you bottgers, but hang in there. You'll have your MPV, and love it, and forget the long wait it took to get it.
but this too will pass...and eventually your van will arrive. you will love it.
As far as a loaner, I dunno... maybe the dealership can help you out with something? It sounds negotiable since you've been patient w/the process so far. :-)
I know you're frustrated bottgers but keep your chin up.
Lsinc
5/31/2003 - Teamsters Reach Tentative Pacts with Carhaul Carriers
Isn't it the purpose of doing business over the internet to make everybody's life simpler? IF the dealer wants the profit, say it up front. Then we will just pick one who offers the most competitive price and close a deal with them. God I hate it when the dealer pull the dirty trick at the last minute of the deal. Good thing this experience was relatively short in terms of time and driving distance for us. I am posting our experience here and send a link to Adzam's internet sales manager. Mr. Manager, I hope you enjoy your profit more than your reputation, because the reputation is something you won't have on this discussion board.
Lesson learn: Never hurt to double or triple check your deal, and get it in writing.
There was an interesting observation on the 04 Sienna board. With an open window and a hand/head peeking out, if the power sliding door is operable (and accidently activated) we got a disaster in waiting !!!
In the 04 Sienna, it seems that the power slider will NOT operate when the windows are lowered. Anybody tried this on the MPV (with extreme caution, of course !!)
Who pays for a loaner when a customer has to leave their vehicle at the dealership for warranty maintenance? I know it isn't the dealership's, or the salesman's fault our van isn't going to arrive when they said it would, but it isn't our fault either. And since my wife and I both work, having one vehicle isn't going to cut the mustard. I explained our lease vehicle situation with our salesman before we ordered the MPV, and he said it would arrive long before we would have to turn in my wifes car. Now it doesn't look like that's going to happen.
bctnj
How can I find out what MPV's are at the port facility right now? Maybe I could find one similar to the one I ordered already there and just have them install the DVD system. As far as I know, having the DVD installed is the only reason our MPV will need to stay at the PF once it arrives. Please give all your sources so I can make these contacts. Thanks.
I would appreciate feedback if you got a good deal from a dealer in Virginia/Maryland. I am willing to drive in a 50 mile radius from Faifax county. Thanks!
The door moves so slowly and once the button is pressed again, the door stops. I have actually gotten caught in the door and it stopped. Now if the van is out of Park, the doors won't open.
Now I'm gonna cause trouble. If a small child is out of his/her car seat or booster and has their head hanging out the window and presses the door button, isn't it more likely that the child is not being supervised? Again, the car would have to be in Park in order for this to happen. Once in drive, the doors don't operate. There are warnings plastered all over my MPV regarding young children and the auto sliders. You can also shut the auto slider option off and use the doors manually.
My kids are older so I don't really see the problem. I also never allow my children to play in a parked car. I think that's were the true problem could come in. Just my 2 cents worth.
Lsinc
I bought mine a year ago from Brown's Fairfax Mazda. I went in with a firm price on an ES and stuck to it. After 5 give and take sessions, I got my price.
Pick a dealer that is closest to you and has has the best service department. It is a drag trying to get service at a place other than where you bought it. And when you need leverage with service, you can always go back to the salesman you worked with.
once you settle on a dealer, go to Mazdausa.com and search all the other dealers in the are for the one you want. If the dealer is good, they can trade another dealer for the one you want. I ended up having Brown's trade a dealer in Gaithersburg for my van. If you cannot find your "van" at Mazdusa, then change the search zip code to somewhere further up North in Maryland and you will see more dealers and choices.
Finally, be prepared - know all the invoice prices, taxes, etc. before you walk in the door.
RBB
I'm standing in the parking lot and what pulls in right behind me? A new 04 Sienna LE 8 psgr. Before I decided on my MPV I also considered the Sienna. They both ended in the shop garage at the same time. This really gave me and the shop owners a chance to look at them side by side. The guy told me he paid $28K with tax and license out the door. I paid $26.5K out the door. So who got the better deal?
My impressions of these vans.
The Mazda - sporty looking.
The Sienna - The "family van" look.
I didn't like the look of the front or back end of the sienna. The Sienna's disappearing back window gives you those nasty parallel parking blind spots, HUGE problem in the CRV. I like the wider wheelbase on the Sienna. Sienna a much longer van and due to the wide wheelbase very roomy on the inside. For a large family maybe a Sienna. For me and my K9 the MPV is the perfect size.
Being a woman I LOVE to accessorize. The MPV has the Sienna beat HANDS DOWN in this catagory.
Mazda - 17" Alloy Wheels
Sienna - 16" Cheap Plastic Wheels. When I say cheap I mean cheap!
Mazda - Sunroof
Sienna - no sunroof
Mazda - Electric Seat
Sienna - Manual
Mazda - Electric sliding door
Sienna - Manual Sliders
MAzda - Side airbags
Sienna - No side airbags
Mazda - No luggage rack
Sienna - Luggage rack
Mazda - leather interior
Sienna - Cloth interior
Mazda 7 psgr
Toyota 8 psgr
Mazda - 4 Seasons package w/ rear air
Sienna - Rear air
Mazda - leather steering wheel
Sienna - no leather steering wheel
Mazda - factory tint
Sienna - no factory tint
Mazda - no cassette player
Sienna - Cassette player. The cassette I can live without.
Mazda - Traction control
Toyota - Didn't look like it
I didn't see any extra buttons on the dash in the Sienna so I'm guessing there wasn't anything else with the exception of cruise, electric doors, locks yada yada.
My goodness after all that comparison an MPV owner would almost feel like they were ripped off!! Wanna guess as to who got more bang for their buck? Sienna WAY overpriced and skimpy on the goodies unless you want to spend $31K MSRP. Thanks but no thanks. I'm VERY happy I decided on the MPV.
Brown's Alexandria Mazda was the complete opposite. They drove all the way out to NJ to get the van we wanted. We paid S-Plan pricing, plus, they gave us a great deal on our trade.
I dealt with Mike Johnson.
Does anyone know if Mazda plans to change the rear seat design in the future ??
Email me your vin #
Thanks,
Steve.
What is S-plan pricing? Will I be able to get this pricing?
Thanks!
Measured to top edge of hitch... 12.75 inches measured to top of the plug in bar that holds the ball.. The receiver hole is 1.28 inches or 32.5 mm square.
Tj
Lsinc
Steve.
8 pounds, 8 ounces, 20.5 inches
DW and Brogan are resting well. Big sister Brooke (2yo) is now a big sister, whether she likes it or not!
-Brian
You trials and tribulations of getting your vehicle, though, has me concerned about going the Mazda route.
Otherwise, its sounds like a prime choice.
Does anyone have any experience with Long Island dealers regarding MPV's? Anyone buy one there? Where are the LI Mazda dealers?
If noone has any info on LI, how about the New York City area (queens, etc)?
Any and all info would be most appreciated.
For the first time, I don't think my sales person was being straight with me. I've been hounding him pretty hard about finding out what MPV's they have at the port. He's been talking around my messages and today he said "I've been told there aren't any vans matching yours at the port." I get the impression he didn't even check. I realize these guys don't make much profit on these S-Plan deals and I understand them not wanting to invest a lot of time and effort into this sale, but he should also realize I'm in a bind time wise, an also that I've been doing almost all the leg work trying to come up with altenate plans. If someone would just tell me how to get in touch with the port and/or how to search their inventory, I'd find a match at the port, then pass the info along to may sales person. He could then contact the port, give them the VIN and tell them to ship it to their dealership. It sounds so figgin easy, so why am I having such a hard time?
Best of Luck!
Lsinc
Actually I was actively shopping the Odyssey far more than the Sienna. But the compact size of the MPV (as well the the more reasonable price) has me looking hard in it's direction.
However, bottgers horror stories on his delivery isn't helping any.
If I can't get one from existing stock, I will definitely *not* factory order.
I need the van now - now 3 months from now.
Girls on the other hand are a hand full but they will steal your heart away... Then when they become teenagers they will hand it back ripped to shreads. Then they grow up and steal it away again for keeps this time.... Kids, you gotta love 'em....
Tj
The 215's have a rim width range of 6.5-8" but I don't know how wide my rims are.