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Buick Rainier, Chevy TrailBlazer, GMC Envoy



  • bobbiesbobbies Posts: 34
    UGH...pepper50 the suffix "M" and "K" both mean 1000 in case you haven't heard.
  • tblazedtblazed Posts: 945
    I always thought M was mega for million and K was kilo for thousand. Learn sump'n new...
  • rainersrainers Posts: 50
    I agree Homelink is nice but 1 thing I do not like about it is that it can still be used with the truck turned off. I also own a Mercedes ans when I remove the key from the ignigtion it disables the the door opener.

    2003 TB
    2002 C320
    1971 Cutlass Conv.
  • aldan93aldan93 Posts: 202
    2003 TB LS 4X4
    1997 Nissan
    1990 ariens 9hp rider
    2001 MDT 8HP Snowblower
    20" Murray push lawn mower 3hp
    pair of inline skates
    red rider wagon

    oh a wheelbarrow?
  • gam2gam2 Posts: 306
    2003 Envoy SLT
    1999 Cavalier Z-24
    1994 Camaro Z-28
    1972 Cutlass Supreme
    1968 M274-A4 Military Mule
    1999 18 HP Sabre Lawn Tractor
    1967 10 HP Bolens Lawn Tractor
    1995 3.8 HP Ralley Lawn Mower
    1993 Ryan Weed Wacker
    1974 Cox .049 Airplane
    Numerous 1/18th scale Diecast cars

    Gee, this is silly!

  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,964
    Any new owners want to weigh in and tell us about their new GM SUV and sidetrack the silliness?

    Steve, Host
  • Here's some pics of the ride. Picked it up Tuesday of last week and have put 1000 miles on it since and absolutely love it. Little rough on the $$$ when it comes to gas, but I'll live.

    I had the aftermarket Delphi Skyfi unit put in. It's an 03 LTZ and didn't come with the $150 Traction Assist option, go figure. The horrid cheap plastic "Trailblazer" logo above the rear wiper control was the perfect mounting spot. I lucked out :)

    Of course it's the best looking one out there ;)
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,964
    It is a nice color! You got enough off MSRP with your rebates to splurge on premium all the time.

    Enjoy the XM too.

    Steve, Host
  • aldan93aldan93 Posts: 202
    LOL, I wish more people had a sense of humor!!!
  • Tblazed...if you have had a problem with todays oil and sludge or you have had your oil tested to backup your opinion than that is good to know. My experience is with diesel engines in a pickup. Todays oils will protect beyond 12 months. Up here in ND I think very short trips in the winter would really test the oil. I found it caused the worst samples in my pickup but not enough to lower the change interval. I do not run any bypass filtrations either.

    BTW, I had the head off my diesel engine with over 220K miles. No sludge to be found in fact it was remarkable clean considering how black to oil gets, how long I extend the drains and over 200K miles.

    Oil testing is the oil way to SEE what is going on. Based on what I found in my pickup I will not change oil any earlier than what the computer says. I have never found the manufactures to be anything but ultra conservative with it comes to warrenty issues as a result of PM schedules.

  • gam2gam2 Posts: 306
    This board needs some silliness sometimes IMHO.

    I change oil on my wifes Z-24 every 3000 miles, but she only puts on 3500 miles a year. I'm going to go 5000 miles between changes on my Envoy. That's half what the DIC is telling me and about twice a year. Oil is a LOT better than it was when 3000 mile intervals became all the rage. 3000
    miles on a synthetic is a complete waste of oil. The only ones who even suggest 3000 mile intervals are the car dealers, and you know their reasoning.......$$$$$$

  • mcali17mcali17 Posts: 22
    I changed the oil on my 2002 Envoy SLE at 3000 miles, and put in Mobil 1.I reset the Light and figured I would see what happens. At about 11,400 the light came on. So that would mean about 8500 between changes. Which in my opinion is pretty normal, given that the extended service interval on the old 4.3s was 7500.

    The best part about this debate is the whole "Mileage" thing anyway. What does mileage have to do with engine wear? Nothing, what the industry should due is add hour meters. Then between your hours and your mileage you would have a much clearer picture of what kind of miles have been put on a vehicle.

    How good can it be for the oil if a car idles for an hour a day in the heat on a 15 mile trip? What does the 15 miles show?? Nothing....

    Just my $0.02
  • ficussficuss Posts: 541
    Does anyone have facts concerning use of one touch power windows? Are they allowed to be one touch closing? I just bought an Infiniti G35 and the one touch function will raise any window, without reversing if something is in the path of the window. I have asked about the function on the Infiniti board, but I think more people read this forum. I performed a test and put a hamburger bun in the path of the drivers window after pushing the one touch up button. The window sliced through the bun like it wasn't even there. I hate to think what would happen to a childs arm or finger.

  • redline65redline65 Posts: 693
    The price of the V8 isn't much more than the V6 IIRC. $800 or so?

    Save your money and go with the I-6 if you aren't going to be hauling a lot of stuff or towing anything really heavy. Sure it will take about .5 seconds longer to get to 60 mph but you will have $1500 (MSRP) more in your pocket, and save 1-2 mpg in gas (10%?). However, I would suggest the 3.73 or 4.10 rear axle ratio. It'll get you off the line a little quicker.
  • When does the "break-in" period stop and gas milage get to the point that can be expected for the rest of the life of the car (generally speaking)?

    Or am I just dumb and making that up about getting better gas milage after approximately X miles.

    And a good point on the auto windows. I wish they went up automatically (er if they do, I haven't figured it out). I really wish there was a "break-point" on the auto down. My mum's 00 Jeep Grand Cherokee has a good feel. You push it down until you feel resistance, then push until you hear it click to make it auto go down.

    In the TB it's hard to get it to go down just a little, without having it go down all the way.
  • tmac8tmac8 Posts: 32
    Interesting link on D.O.D. I was planning to trade in my 2002 Envoy in three years for a new one, but now I think I'll either grab a 2004 or wait long enough to evaluate the D.O.D. on the 2005's. Looks good on paper, but then doesn't everything ? Here's a thought; If they're going to cut out half of the cylinders at cruising speed, then why not bump the HP output to 375 or so ? Then you would have P.O.D. (Power on Demand). Wouldn't that be great. Thanks again Steve.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,964
    Ok Tmac8, let's get GM to stick a turbo on the DOD systems. Get to enjoy the best of both worlds, eh?

    Brunopuntzjone, I haven't played with my spreadsheet lately, but my mpg on my minivan has gone up from day one basically. Last I looked, it was still going up - a tiny increment, but up. I was at 20.3 lifetime at 20k and 21.2 at 75k.

    fwiw, I went from around 14 to 20 mpg over the first 17,000 miles.

    Steve, Host
  • tblazedtblazed Posts: 945
    "Tblazed...if you have had a problem with todays oil and sludge or you have had your oil tested to backup your opinion.."

    Last time I checked, an oil analysis cost $25-30. I can change the oil and filter for about $15 myself so I did not think the analysis was cost-effective. I change it more than once a year due to my short drives and the truck sitting sometimes for a few days at a time. My reasoning for that is 1) moisture that condenses in the engine as it warms up and doesn't always get hot enough to evaporate off that water, and 2) during cold operation up to fully warmed up, closed loop condition, the engine is running more rich, contributing to more carbon buildup in the oil. Regardless of how good todays oils are, they still get contaminated with the normal by-products of the combustion process. My opinion is culminated from over 35 years of vehicle ownership and maintenance, studying a lot of manuals, and asking a lot of questions.
  • tblazedtblazed Posts: 945
    "I performed a test and put a hamburger bun in the path of the drivers window.." Maybe test it with a roll of paper towels? I think that's how they test garage door opener(closers) to make sure it won't crush a person or animal in the path. Obviously the power window has to have enough power to run the window up with a certain amount of normal drag. I think on the auto-up windows, the system monitors the window motor current. If something restricts the window movement up and the current increases above a certain amount, it will sense that and stop and reverse the window.
  • redline65redline65 Posts: 693
    A hamburger bun by itself probably doesn't have enough resistance. Maybe try a Big Mac or Whopper.
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