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I bought a Hypertech Power Programmer, initially not to change the shift pattern but it had that capability and I was unhappy with the factory setting so at @ 5,000 miles I reprogrammed it.
What a difference!! Theres a light I catch about half the time going to work leading up an overpass to the highway.
Before I reprogrammed the shift pattern, I could floor it and maybe get to 45 before slowing down to make the on ramp.
Now I make 45 halfway up the overpass! the factory shift pattern was holding me back.
I think GM has this trans programmed for very smooth (and sometimes time consuming) shifts.
I am almost jealous of my wife as she will be the primary driver of the Bravada. I have a 02 Yukon which I love, but I almost which I had bought one of the GM midsize triplets instead. Oh well, only 32 more leas payments and maybe I can switch.
The part numbers for the mud flaps are below (sold as pairs, molded guards cannot be used with fender flares, only rear guards can be used with running boards).
part # description
12497428 flat splash guard with contour, 9.70" wide, no logo
12497434 flat splash guard with contour, 9.70" wide, with GMC logo
12497606 molded front splash guard with GMC logo
12497607 molded rear splash guard with GMC logo
I'm happy to say the same for the hood deflector and side window vent shades.
Another accessory I picked up was the load stop / canoe carrier. Once the brackets are mounted to the roof rack rails (5 minutes) the bars can be attached or removed in seconds. They have integrated locks to ensure they are not removed by others. The racks are much more usable than the stock rack bars, raising the load and ensuring a strong flat set of bars for carrying a serious load. They also come with adjustable load stop brackets to keep things from moving side to side, as well as 4 web straps to secure the load to the bars. Nothing moves on this set-up. I was actually thinking of removing the stock cross bars since they are not much use, given their curved shape. Great for wind noise but not much else. I prefer the new rack which is easily removed in seconds. I have used it to carry my canoe as well as to transport beds. You can also get attachments for the bars to carry Kayaks, bikes, skis etc. Great Rack, highly recommended.
Second, re: my post #2618 and guards on front can't be used w/ running boards, that came directly from the response I got from GMPartsDirect.com and is also stated in the accessories guide. It made no sense to me since I couldn't see how they could come in contact w/ the running boards but that's what GM says. If folks say they work fine that's great news.
Third, they have the Custom Vinal Floor Mats out, I suspect they will fit much better than the WeatherTech ones do.
Pewter: Ft - 12497749 Rear - 12497716
Oak: Ft. - 12497748 Rear - 12497715
GM's list price is $47 for the front pair and $36 for the rear pair. Much cheaper through GMPartsDirect.com but S&H charges will kill it if you only buy one item, the more you buy S&H charges per item goes down. HTH
Inspect for high pitch squeal noise from right from differential intermediate housing seals dragging on shaft. New design seal available per T.A.C. F1447 R&R front differential housing to replace seals & repack with lubricant.
P/N No. 12479012 Desc.: Seal 6.056
GM told the dealer that the part was redesign to correct this problem.
I hope this helps you.
After they did this work, it hasn't squealed since, but only time will tell.
My sale man never pointed it out to me, but I did pay for the deal with the 6 disc CD & SH package included.
Is that CD system itemized on your invoice? If so, then it would seem your dealer is obligated to provide you with it.
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I'm glad you noticed this squeal too!
I just started hearing it after about 4,500 miles on my TB LTZ.
At first I thought it was my air intake/K&N, then the luggage rack, tires, etc....now I have some good info. Thanks!
Anyone else have a sqealing or high pitch sqeal/whistle in the right front side?
tim
http://www.timlauro.com
Because the car is only a year old, 4 years and a little less than 15 grand is still owed, so purchasing is most likely out of the question. Leasing is probably the way we will go, but as never having done this before, we have to research it a little more. As for which vehicle, we really like Tahoes and Yukons, they are really tough and solid SUV's built off a great truck, but they are a little too much price-wise and the gas mileage might not be the best. In addition, the Envoy and Trailblazer are also very nice, and actually seem like they'd be a little better of a choice, size and feature wise.
So now, I need some leasing information on these two SUV's. I've already seen and read through tlauro's leasing site and it's very informative. Most likely, we'll be looking more into both an Envoy SLE or a Trailblazer LT, not sure on whether 2wd or 4wd. The Envoy SLE has a nice Euro look to it and offers the air suspension and has the nicest interior. The Trailblazer LT is also good looking and offers both the Bose and a driver conveniance package that aren't options for the Envoy but the interior is cheaper and plainer and there's no air suspension.
We still haven't driven any vehicle yet and are currently in the stage of looking at brochures, ads, and most important, price. If anyone who has leased on of these new ute's could, what re some of the basic figures or deals available and what are the prices/payments you have gotten?
Mine is Pewter and has 1SB (Memory Seats), Heated Seats and Bose Radio as options but not 6 disc (we wanted the cassette player). MSRP was $35872 and I paid $32,500 on a demo w/ 1100 miles (about $300 below invoice).
I used my GM Card earnings ($3158) on deal. When the dealer called in to verify the rebate amount, he was told I qualified for an extra $1000 rebate making the card rebate total $4158. Anyone know why??? The dealer did not.
Mileage: 18mpg at steady 72-73mph with a gusty cross wind. 17mpg at a steady 77-79mph with the roof rack bars all the way back. Just learned that the front bar should be placed over the rear door to reduce noise and drag when not in use.
Tom
So, anyone out their who has leased on of the triplets, what are some of the figures you got? I'd like to know how much you put down and more importantly, how much are your payments, if you don't mind? I'm just trying to see what we can afford first before anything else.
Does anyone think there is a need to put a cable lock on the spare tire????
you can jump over to the leasing section of yahoo's town halls and find out the current rate and residules. "Lease Questions - Ask Here" Nov 3, 2001 3:15pm
Car Man is the handle of the host and he is very helpful at getting current rates and residules. My guess is GM is still at 6.5% rate with 48% residuals. Not an awesome rate but a very real residule. The result is your payment will be a little higher than it could be, but with such a low residual on an SUV, you'll easily exit it 6mos early or sell it and make some money.
To calculate a payment...just use my spreadsheet from the site and plug in the above for now with the vehicles you've looked at. You'll get an idea of the payments and what not for sure.
Let me know if there is anything else. Good luck.
Since the vehicles are nearly identical, this cover may fit the Envoy as well.
http://www.calcarcover.com/
-Whining sound coming from front end, probably similar problem mentioned before
-Center console is loose and makes a lot of noise
-Making sharp turn causes unknown grinding, not tire against wheel well, metal!
-And a recall has been issued for "Transfer case Reprogram"
One thing I've noticed though - this morning and on Monday it sounded like a large fan was running pretty hard when I started up my TB in the morning to go to work. I hadn't heard this before, but both Monday and this morning were a bit cold. The noise goes away after a few minutes. It almost sounds like the car is running at really high RPMs, but that's not the case. Anyone else experience this?
No other noticeable problems though (crossing fingers here!)
And king1079 - what's the "Transfer Case Reprogram" recall for? ie: what are the "symptoms" and do you know what vehicles it covers? Thanks!
Why don't you print out a copy of the recall and hand it to your dealer? It will inform him/her of what he/she should already know and eliminate any further off putting! :-)
tidester
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WEB SITE: www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/recalls
Campaign # 01V334000
Number of units affected: 78004
COMPONENT: Power Train Transfer Case (4-wheel drive)2
MANUFACTURE DATE: 01/2001 - 08/2001
DEFECT SUMMARY: Vehicle description: sport utility vehicles equipped with 4-wheel drive. The calibration of the transfer case module could cause insufficient high speed gear engagement.
CONSEQUENSE SUMMARY: If the gear is not engaged, the vehicle can roll when the transmission is in "park" and a crash could result without warning.
CORRECTIVE SUMMARY: Dealers will update the transfer case control module calibration to increase gear engagement.
Will keep you all posted on the results.
tim
http://www.timlauro.com
king1079 and sostrouble: Thanks for the info on the recall - Since I have a 4WD it looks like my TB will be going back to the dealer eventually. I'm assuming a recall notice is in the mail...
I must admit that while I've noticed the problems others have talked about related to transmission, I don't worry about it too much, as the only time I've noticed it on my TB is when it is first started from cold, and being 45 years old, I have always let a vehicle warm for 1-2 minutes before I even try to move it! I think that goes back to my autos with carburators, they would almost always stall out without a manual choke! This truck has 9000 miles on the clock already, and I cannot say anything bad about it except for the on-center numbness in the steering, (plays havoc in a crosswind), and the fact that it doesn't get what I would consider good mileage. (17.2) around town. Other than that, I find it to be a very nice ride, of course I had a 2001 AWD Astro before this with 23,000 miles when I turned it in, and that is like comparing a Freightliner to a Camaro!
My complaint: Grinding noise when sharp turning; Solution: Oil& Lube guys must remember to lubricate chassis when changing oil
My complaint: Loose center console; Solution: Re-install center console
Recall: The adjusted the timing on transmission to make it nice and smooth!
The first thing I added was a WeatherTech bug shield that was the easiest I've ever installed
and looks and fits great. Then purchased Husky mud guards for the front and rear. The rear ones were a little harder to put on as I had to remove the wheels to drill the holes. I was surprised that I was only drilling though plastic, no metal, but they seemed to hold OK. I did notice that the plastic moulding inside the wheel wells were missing screws/fasteners.
I recently ordered Husky winter floor and cargo mats but haven't received them yet (20% off sale price still totalled $216, ouch). I'm wondering if anyone has added running boards or steps. I've started researching them and am considering the Lund X-step. My kids are having trouble climbing into the back seat and could use a step.
I'm brining mine in on Monday for the Recall Fix on the Tranny and TSB for the Squealing Transfer case but no one there heard about the mirror issue...odd?
-concerned parent...My Children Below
The trim seems very flimsy and provides lots of opportunity for installation variance.
Thanks again to all of you!
tim
http://www.timlauro.com
myself, a buddy with GMC Yukon XL and two GS 430's are all getting it done. I'm getting the partial kit since I have a bug gard for the hood and with the Trailblazer, the bottom half of my front bumper is Dark Gray Cladding.
Both headlights, foglamps, the bow-tie/grill area and the front bumper and wrap around sections to the fenders are being done.
It's a little over $300 but worth it. I had it on a 300ZX for several years before selling it and it was flawless up front.
Let me know if you have any questions.
tim
http://www.timlauro.com
Okay, here's the pics!:
2002 Trailblazer EXT & Envoy XL
Envoy XL Tahoe Suburban
Length: 207.6" 198.8" 219"
Wheelbase: 129" 116" 130"
Height: 74.9 2wd 76.3 4wd (probably same height with XL's 4wd)
Width: 74.6 78.8
Weight: 5020 5050 5219
Since the Envoy XL/TrailBlazer EXT will eventually be available with the 5.3L V-8, you could also assume that they both tow about the same. In fact, the Envoy's wheelbase is 13" LONGER, making it probably superior for towing. The only thing smaller about the Envoy XL is the width which is just 4" smaller. In fact, the Suburban's wheelbase is just 1" longer and length is only 12" longer than the Trailblazer EXT/Envoy XL.
Having said that, I would think that buying a Tahoe would make little sense for most folks.
Will the 3rd row be available in Trailblazer, Envoy, and Bravada?
What can we expect tthese vehicles to cost when they come equipped with the 3rd row?
Thanks all
And I hope the 3rd row is easily remouvable or maybe even optional - I'm more interested in additional cargo than passengers ...
I pick the truck up on Tuesday and will report on my experiences as the miles accumulate. Anyone thinking about a Trailblazer in Westchester should give Joe Valle at Frank Chevrolet a call - nice guy, no BS, fair price without the need for discussion, and he can get the vehicle you want!