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  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    also, it's likely that the tires are overinflated to help prevent flatspotting from sitting on the lot. This will contribute to a harder ride and possibly a noiser one too.

    -Brian
  • sugoiyasugoiya Posts: 12
    Since you seem to have an interest in tires, I feel I have an obligation to warn you about the Dunlops that come with this car. You see, in order to promote their zoom-zoom image, Mazda essentially put racing tires on this heavy car. This gives the MPV some pretty good agility, but the sticky rubber is severly taxed and creates with some pretty serious long-term problems.

    First off, the tires are very noisy and will only get worse as the tread wears down. Second, the ride will be rough, particularly with the 17” tires from what I understand. Third, the tread will wear down very fast no matter how much you rotate the tires. If you research the Dunlops you’ll find that you can expect 35K at the most. The tires on my ‘02 wore out at 20K. Finally, when you do have to replace the tires you’ll find that the OE specs are unusual. So, unless you buy another set of OE’s you will probably have to make some compromises.

    Oh, and to answer your question: I did put a touring tire on the car and it did calm things down, but again, because of the unusual size I had to spend an hour talking tires with my mechanic before deciding on what to buy. We essentially wound up re-spec'ing the car pretty much the same way a company would spec' out their work trucks. But that’s another lengthy post.

    I hope this helps.
  • vrmvrm Posts: 303
    Will there be a 2006 model for the MPV? If yes, when is it expected? Any known changes from the 2005 model.

    Thanks!
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    Because the MPV engine is a Ford engine :sick: (as has been pointed out).
    Ford, GM, Chrysler, Hyundai, Kia, Suzuki, etc. engines do NOT provide the high gas mileage of Toyota and Honda engines. :cry: However, all of the engines produced by any of these manufacturers will be more reliable and last longer than engines built by Volkswagen, Fiat or Trabant.
  • bigdadi118bigdadi118 Posts: 1,207
    The CR used to rate MPV as No.3 side-by-side with Nissan Quest, just below TOY Sienna, HON Odyssey. This summer CR auto rating does not recommend MPV any more because of feedbacks from MPV owners on its harsh/noisy ride and the transmission problem.
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    I don't see any recommended transaxle service for my '02 MPV.

    What is the deal? Is this a maintenance-free item? Fluid good for life? What have any of you done regarding the auto tranny?

    John
  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    I've read of some actually draining the pan (there is a drain bolt IIRC) and some have pulled the tranny cooler lines to drain with some assist.

    -Brian
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    I am capable enough to get some fluid out of it, but I want to know if anyone recommends it. It appears Mazda (corporate) does not. Although, lemme guess, the dealer is going to recommend it.

    John
  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    No, not all dealers *will* recommend it, some will adhere to "it's not in the maintenance schedule so don't worry about it" mentality. I think some dealers may recommend the power flush type of fluid change, but those can sometimes do more harm than good.

    Personally, brake fluid, coolant, and tranny fluid should be changed after a couple of years at least. Of course, you don't have to, you can leave these as-is. But, why when they're simple enough to change?

    You figuring on DIY with the AT fluid?

    -Brian
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    dunno...not versed at all in Jatco 5spd autos. I didn't see a pan and filter on the bottom of it, so there must be a different way of flushing it.

    IIRC if the auto tranny fluid doesn't get too hot (is it over 300 degrees?) it doesn't break down. I expect it gets contaminated though.

    It just frankly surprises me. Subarus get their drain and flush every 30k.

    I am all for less maintenance, but not for lack thereof that leads to equipment failure.

    John
  • tccmn1tccmn1 Posts: 278
    I wondered the same thing when I read my manual - 2003 MPV.
    I asked the dealer and they shrugged about it...I talked to a tranny specialist and he stated that it would be smart to change the fluid around 50K or so...expecially, if you tow anything with it, as I do! So, I am going to have my fluid changed. I guess the filter in it is washable and can be reused. $90 to do it; cheap insurance on a vital, and somewhat fragile, part of this troubled vehicle!!

    Again, wait until you need to replace the rear license plate lights! The dealer had to remove the inside of the tailgate to get at them!! Unbelievable! They were afraid they would break the lenses since they would not pop out as the manual says!!! More craziness regarding this thing of beauty.
  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    Seems like most are using the tranny cooler lines to drain the tranny (most of it at least) and then filling via the dipstick. I've also read of some draining from the pan (there is a drain bolt IIRC) but you don't get much out this way so they drain/fill/drive/drain/fill a few times to get more fluid out.

    -Brian
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    it just sounds like Jatco never designed this thing to be changed or flushed. At least with the standard equipment folks have.

    Again, it puzzles me. Kind of like some power steering systems, some manufacturers don't have recommended maintenance, but it is never a bad idea (if done right) to change it out.

    John
  • argrdiargrdi Posts: 4
    I have an older 6cyl MPV ('96). About 2 weeks ago I had to jump start the battery 3 times because something in the switch was faulty and the headlights would randomly come on while the car was parked (jiggling the switch would fix that issue). Then last week, we had a hard time starting the car after I filled up the tank. I did notice a strong smell (kind of like burning brakes) but that went away after a mile or so (don't even know if it was my car - we were in heavy traffic). That night I did notice that (with headlights and AC on) the "fuel" & "check engine" lights would come on (though very, very dim) at every stop light . Reving the engine seemed to turn these lights out. The following morning the battery was dead (not due to the headlights coming on). After jumping the battery I drove about 10 miles to a store, came back and again nothing (not even the slightest click. About 3 minutes later, I pumped the pedal about 15 times and eventually the car turned over. After another 5 mile drive to get something to eat I stopped and immediately tried starting the car - again, not even a click - as if there was no battery. Half an hour later we went back to the car, pumped the pedal about 5 times and it started right up. The day after the battery was totally dead. I replaced the battery tonight, car starts just fine - no pumping - just turn the key. However, if I turn the headlights and AC on, I can see the faint lights of the "fuel" & check engine" coming on. They do go off at about 1100rpm. Can anyone offer some advise on what might be going on?
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    electrical to me. Possibly somewhere in the charging system.

    John
  • prov221prov221 Posts: 1
    help me please! i hear some noise from my engine. it is usually starts when i push hard my accelerator. i dont know what is the problem and where to find a good mechanic for this kind of vehicle here in Tucson. Thanks! appreciate any help from you.
  • clay7clay7 Posts: 1
    Hi,bought a 2001 MPV with 80,000 miles on it after reading this forum.
    I have a extended warantee till 100,000.Was wondering what maint. should I do ,or things to check.So far only oil changes.Dealer wants $179 for tranny service.It does shift rough sometimes.Have to keep this for 4 years.Thanks,Clay7 :)
  • ClairesClaires Chicago areaPosts: 976
    If you haven't already done so, you might want to check out the Mazda MPV Owners: Problems & Solutions discussion. You might find that you're not the only one who's had the same problem, and the members there may already have found an answer.

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  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    Claire, move me over to the problems board if you want. Although I am just making a general comment about the MPV trannies.

    The 2001 MPV had a 4 speed tranny in it. The 2002 had a new 5 speed Jatco tranny in it and few of that year have had problems. The 2003 and 2004 models had some software glitches that caused hard shifting, but it was corrected by reprogramming. I don't recall any hardshifting problems on the 4 speed. However, after 80,000 miles, the tranny isn't a spring chicken anymore and you could be experiencing wear issues.

    John
  • bcmanbcman Posts: 2
    I have a 1995 MPV that has a very strange brake problem! This MPV has 4 wheel abs brakes & a factory tow package, it has 4 wheel disc brakes. What is happening is this....all 4 brakes are locking up the wheels....whether I drive the vehicle or not....but at night when the outside temperature cools down....all 4 brakes unlock & the wheels all spin freely!. I've had the MPV up on jack stands the last week or so...all 4 wheels are off the ground...& everyday the wheels all lock up...then at night they unlock....without me even getting near the vehicle! This seems to be a heat related issue....but I've had the MPV in my garage...not outside in direct sunlight......the temperature has been averaging 100 degrees in my garage...so the heat really isn't that much to be causing this I would think.
  • ClairesClaires Chicago areaPosts: 976
    Welcome to the Forums, bcman! This discussion is for the features, attributes, etc. of the MPV, but we do have a place to discuss MPV problems. Click the link below to post your question and the members there will be happy to help you out.

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    When you get a chance, try our search tools at the left side of the page. They'll help you to find help on just about anything regarding your car.

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  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    Will it be larger than the current MPV? Will it continue to be a minivan or will it revert back to being an SUV as was the previous MPV? :confuse:
  • pure speculation here-- I think the MPV will go away in 2006 and the Mazda 5 will be its replacement.

    While we love our MPV, it is getting roughed up by the competition which get better mpg, more space, and is "recommended" by CR.

    But I must admit that the current pricing on the MPVs looks very attractive compared to the other guys. At a recent visit, I saw 20 MPVs lined up at the local dealer, and for the money they were much more attractive than the 2002 LX we bought.

    John
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    The MPV is going to be redesigned into a larger package based off a stretched MZ6 platform. It has not been confirmed for the North American market at this point....so it's a little up in the air at this point.
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  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    Do the 2nd row bucket seats in the MPV slide forward and back as in the Ody and Sienna and now DC with Stow 'N Go?
    OR, do they only recline or back rest fold flat onto seat as in DC minivans without Stow 'N Go?
    I have to admit that the MPV is quite sporty in appearance and is more attractive with the rub strip on the side than when the sides were flat with no strip to break up that large, boring slab. ;)
  • jipsterjipster Posts: 5,345
    Yes, hans...as a matter of fact they do slide forward and back like those other vans you spoke of.

    I was told they did not when inspecting and test driving our 2004 MPV LX for purchase. But, after reading the owners manual it showed how to move the second row bucket seats up and back. But, when I went out to our MPV I could not get them to do so.

    Called the saleslady that sold us the van. "No", she says they don't move up and back.When I took it in for its first oil change..."No, I don't think so" says service manager. But, they will check it out. Well, they checked it out. It was only stuck and now easily moves forward and back. Though not a whole lot of space to move forwards and back....maybe 3 inches.

    I agree about the rub strip on the side. It comes with the all-sport package, amoungst other things, and dresses it up quite well. :shades:
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    THANKS. That 3 inches or whatever is VALUABLE. The 2nd row passengers can stretch their legs while little children in 3rd row would not need as much. :blush:
    Another reason the MPV is a better choice than the Caravan or SWB T&C (in addition to the fold-into-the-floor 3rd row seat and more sporty appearance). ;)
  • I've been test driving too many vechiles to mention to find something that works for my family of 4 (4-year old and a 4-month old, plus stroller and other trunk gear). I currenlty have an Acura MDX, which I like for the comfort and driving pleasure, but find the 3rd row fairly useless since I have two car seats in the 2nd row. Plus, it needs premium fuel and only gets about 15-16MPG in the city which is where I do the bulk of my driving.

    I seem to be down to the MPV ES (leather and the works so my wife doesn't miss the luxurious feel of the Acura so much and afforts us seating for 7 in a pinch) vs. the Mazda5 (after-market leather...easier with kids spills; better MPG for the city, not as big as the MPV).

    Also any thoughts on the 5 vs. the MPV would be welcome...I like them both and it seems like the MPV's are are a bit more plush than the 5 and are heavily discounted so the prices really aren't that far apart. The MPV might be a big more vehicle than I need, but sometimes that is handy. I like driving them both, but prefer the manual on the 5, but that's not a dealbreaker. If the city MPG (or overall MPG) is very different, that could sway me one way or the other.

    Since I live in CT, I had hoped to get at least traction control (available on the MPV, I think), but figure I can get snow tires for whichever vehicle I end up with.

    Finally, I've read a few posts on this board that indicate this is the last year for the MPV at this size as it's growing to compete with Honda and Toyota's offerings. Is that definite?

    A lot of questions, I know...any input on people's experiences with their MPVs would be really helpful.

    Thanks!
  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    There will be an '06 MPV, should be very similar to the '05. So far, nothing concrete about the growth of the next MPV. More once the autoshows start up (Detroit, Chicago, etc.).

    TCS is available on the MPV. Deals can be had on the MPV, that is certain. City MPG on the MPV can be low, I've read of reports elsewhere on the 'net of 18 city and 26 hwy. We've tracked 17 city (below zero F temps in winter) and 25 hwy, overall 20 with mainly city or short trips.

    Drive both, and spend a good amount of time in them. The 5 has some good features in it that I'd consider if it was available when we shopped in '02 for our MPV.

    -Brian
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