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Chrysler 300M

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  • bigmike5bigmike5 Posts: 960
    Luch1-- I had a similar problem with my 93 Regal GS. Exact same symtoms. After changing out an Electronic Control Module twice [under warranty, thank God] with no correction of the problem, the dealer's electronics guy finally did the volt/mulitmeter thing, and low and behold there is a little switch associated with the brake pedal, so when you hit the brake the cruise goes off, and that $12 part was kaput. I expect that there is a similar switch on the M, so see if they can check for that.

    Blonda--Yes, I think we are talking about the same area, where the rod goes thru the firewall. The extra width and slightly higher sidewall height on the 245/50's may be the culprit. I think I will chalk up the inside of the tire sidewall and do some tight turns to see if there is any transfer of chalk to the shroud area. I can live with the problem [don't know how the shrouds are held in place] if water, dirt, etc. does not get to someplace it shouldn't thru that shroud.
  • russklassrussklass Posts: 389
    Today is the release date for the block of rooms we have reserved for Aug.18 at the Holiday Inn Select in Brampton, Ontario.
    Don't miss out on the tour of the 300M assembly plant!
    Rate is US $70.00, phone #905-792-9900.
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    lighten up. His computer issue is related to something he's trying to do to his car.
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    blonda-

    Yep, the lady in the commercial gets everything for free! ;-)) MAYBE, they have to give her all that to sell the Goodyears? ;-))

    fastdriver
  • muskateer3muskateer3 Posts: 103
    There's not enough stuff they could give me to make me put GY's back on.
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    muskateer3-

    How about a 300M "Special"?? ;-))

    fastdriver
  • muskateer3muskateer3 Posts: 103
    OK... so I was wrong!

    How long would I have to keep the GY's on my free special before I swap them out?? ;-}
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    muskateer3-

    Just until they started to pull LEFT!! That could be from day one! ;-))

    fastdriver
  • hickoxkhickoxk Posts: 4
    I have a 1999 300M with sport suspension and a little over 16K miles. I suddenly have gotten a lot of "play" in the steering wheel -- about an inch to each side. This has posed problems on windy interstated driving (like the PA Turnpike) because any sharpness in the turn tends to lead to overcorrecting when I'm used to "instant" response. Any others experiencing this problem. Is it possibly something simple, like an alignment?
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    topdavis-

    Yep. SOUNDS good. Hope they have better accountants than Enron and Worldcom!

    http://www.detnews.com/2002/autosinsider/0207/18/autos-540364.htm

    fastdriver
  • muskateer3muskateer3 Posts: 103
    Refer to this TSB when you go to the dealer:

    NUMBER: 19-001-01

    GROUP: Steering

    DATE: Mar. 23, 2001

    THIS BULLETIN SUPERSEDES TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN 19-003-00 REV A, DATED OCTOBER 6, 2000 WHICH SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM YOUR FILES. ALL REVISIONS ARE HIGHLIGHTED WITH **ASTERISKS** AND INCLUDE PART NUMBER CHANGES AND ADDITIONAL MODEL YEAR.

    WARNING: FAILURE TO ACHIEVE A MINIMUM TORQUE OF 100 NM (74 FT. LBS.) MAY RESULT IN THE ATTACHING BOLTS LOOSENING AND FRACTURING. THIS COULD RESULT IN A SUBSEQUENT LOSS OF STEERING CONTROL. BENDING THE RETAINING TABS ALONE WILL NOT PREVENT THIS.

    SUBJECT:
    Loose Steering

    OVERVIEW:

    This bulletin provides service procedures and parts information for the inner tie rod bushings.

    MODELS:
    1993 - **2001 ** (LH) Concorde/Intrepid/LHS/New Yorker/Vision/300M

    SYMPTOM/CONDITION:

    Loose feel or clunk in the steering wheel as the wheel is moved from side to side.

    DIAGNOSIS:

    Observe the inner tie rod to steering gear attaching point while moving the steering wheel from side to side. If there is movement between the gear and inner tie rod, perform the Repair Procedure. If no movement is evident further diagnosis of the condition will be required.

    DISCUSSION:

    The inner tie rod bushings have previously been serviced with the tie rod assembly. This bulletin releases the parts, service procedures, and special tool necessary to service just the bushings. Subsequent service manuals will contain the Repair Procedure.

    PARTS REQUIRED:

    EQUIPMENT REQUIRED:

    REPAIR PROCEDURE:

    1. Remove the tie rod assembly as described in Group 19 of the appropriate service manual.

    NOTE: WHEN SERVICING THE INNER TIE ROD BUSHINGS, REPLACEMENT OF BUSHINGS ON BOTH INNER TIE RODS IS RECOMMENDED AS WELL AS ALL ATTACHING HARDWARE (DISCARD OLD ATTACHING PARTS).

    2. Mount Receiver, Special Tool 8438-1, in a vice (Fig. 1).

    3. Assemble Special Tool 8438 in the following manner to remove the bushing from the inner tie rod (Figure 1).

    a. Place the inner tie rod bushing end in the receiver.

    b. Place Remover/Installer, Special Tool 8438-4, with the small end down on top of the bushing.

    c. Insert Screw, Special Tool 8438-3, through the Remover/Installer and tie rod bushing, until it threads into the bottom of the Receiver.

    d. Using hand tools, tighten the Screw until it bottoms out. The bushing is now removed from the inner tie rod.

    4. Remove the Screw, then remove the Remover/Installer, tie rod and bushing from the Receiver.

    5. Using Mopar Silicone Spray, p/n 04318070, spray bushing, inner tie rod end, and inside of Sizer, Special Tool 8438-2.

    CAUTION: USE ONLY THE LUBRICANT SPECIFIED, DO NOT USE PETROLEUM BASED RUBBER BUSHING INSTALLATION LUBRICANT. PREMATURE BUSHING FAILURE MAY OCCUR.

    NOTE: THE INNER TIE ROD BUSHING IS SYMMETRICAL. THERE IS NO DESIGNATED TOP OR BOTTOM.

    6. Place new bushing, p/n 05018125AA, in the bore of the Sizer (Fig. 2). Slide bushing all the way into the Sizer bore.

    7. With the Receiver, Special Tool 8438-1, mounted in the vise, assemble the Special Tool 8438 in the following manner to install the new bushing (Fig. 3).

    a. Place the inner tie rod end in Receiver.

    b. Place the Sizer (with bushing) on the top of the tie rod bushing bore with the tapered end facing downward.

    c. Place Remover/Installer, Special Tool 8438-4, with the small end down on the top of the bushing.

    d. Insert Screw, Special Tool 8438-3, through the Remover/Installer, bushing (in Sizer) and tie rod, until it threads into the bottom of the Receiver.

    e. Using hand tools, slowly tighten the Screw, pushing the bushing out of the Sizer, into the inner tie rod end. Tighten the Screw until it bottoms in the tool. Do not overtighten.

    8. Remove the Screw, Remover/installer and Sizer, then remove the tie rod from the Receiver.

    9. Inspect the bushing, it will appear slightly off-center in the tie rod (Fig. 4). This is a normal condition.

    10. Install the tie rod assembly as described in Group 19 of the appropriate service manual.

    WARNING: THE INNER TIE ROD TO STEERING GEAR ATTACHING BOLTS, P/N 06507006AA, MUST BE TIGHTENED TO 100 NM (74 FT. LBS.) WITH AN APPROPRIATE TORQUE WRENCH AND RETAINING TABS BENT AGAINST THE HEADS OF THE BOLTS TO ENSURE A SECURE AND RELIABLE JOINT. THE WASHERS, P/N 05017820AA, MUST BE INSTALLED BETWEEN THE TIE RODS AND STEERING GEAR.

    WARNING: FAILURE TO ACHIEVE A MINIMUM TORQUE OF 100 NM (74 FT. LBS.) MAY RESULT IN THE ATTACHING BOLTS LOOSENING AND FRACTURING. THIS COULD RESULT IN A SUBSEQUENT LOSS OF STEERING CONTROL. BENDING THE RETAINING TABS ALONE WILL NOT PREVENT THIS.

    11. Perform procedure on remaining tie rod.

    POLICY:
    Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty.
  • hickoxkhickoxk Posts: 4
    Thanks Muskateer3! You gotta love this bulletin board.
  • muskateer3muskateer3 Posts: 103
    Your quite welcome.

    The folks on the 300M board are a great bunch (except for that one guy nobody likes ;-)) totally kidding )
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    ...vman, I want one! LOL. That would look cool pulling up the the Brampton plant. Oh, what the heck...here goes my bid. ;)
  • blondablonda Posts: 542
    That's pretty cool. SDMike -- when you win it I want a ride in it okay?

    I wonder how they got the grill blacked out like that (the wing is too). They have that headlight "mod" going also.
  • ottowrkrottowrkr Posts: 778
    That is one cool looking M. Yeah ,how cool would that be seeing that drive up to the front door of the plant .
  • luch1luch1 Posts: 2
    Thanks to all for the suggestions. This is a great board. I'll pass them to the service rep. Replacing the servo and computer would not have been my first choices either, but that is what they chose to do and since it was no money out of my pocket (warranty covered it), why argue. Regarding cruise control, I find it very easy to hit high speeds in the 300M without even realizing it. When you drive heavily patrolled interstate every day, it pays to have cruise control. It has saved many a ticket.
  • Ok, someone bid on the limo, then pick up sdmike, blonda, and glennbp from San Diego area and take them to Detroit Brampton. Pick up Roger in Seattle on the way.

    That would be cool.

    Anyway, how would you like to be the one the had to cut the car in half. Then I guess they insert a standard center section, make some skin panels to flow with the M lines and lots of welding and paint. It turned out really good.
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Posts: 1,116
    could be purchased by the Club with excess funds---then you could load it up wit da membas and go from Detroit to Brampton in style--the club could always sell it later to the mob, probably at a nice profit--

    Sure would look nice with the club name emblazoned on the sides---would look awesome cruisin down woodward ave followed by about 20 300M's
  • videoman1videoman1 Posts: 201
    We could even add a trailer hitch on the back so sdmike can bring his bike.

    -vman
  • fastdriverfastdriver Posts: 2,273
    Sdmike2's duals would look good on there too.

    fastdriver

    PS sdmike2- imagine that in RED! ;-))
  • 300michael300michael Posts: 1,815
    I post a picure of a great mod to have if you are going to the Meet next month, so you will not get any tickets. go to http://community.webshots.com/user/my300m_ go to the first new mods. :)
  • sdmike2sdmike2 Posts: 2,909
    bummer...someone outbid me already. Hey fastdriver...no need for a bike rack on that one. I could get my bike INSIDE! lol!
  • ottowrkrottowrkr Posts: 778
    make a new bid , I'll throw in a 20 .
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Posts: 1,116
    maybe they'll let it go cheap--wonder what the reserve is---

    Or here's a better idea---why not call the guy up and tell him he could donate it to our not-for-profit 300M club and he could get a nice tax deduction and help out a great organization---you never know, maybe the guy has plenty of money and would like to do a good deed---actually he would probably only recover about 1/4 to 1/3 of what he has invested in that car if he sells it; yet a tax deduction of 1/2 or 2/3 of his original investment would probably give him a better return especially if he's in a high tax bracket.

    So maybe someone should seriously approach this guy and you never know what might happen---tell him we'll even give him some free advertising on the club web site and maybe even on the side of the limo!

    And if the club gets the limo, it should be garaged in different areas of the country for a few months at a time so all members could enjoy it!

    EZ
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Posts: 1,116
    the maximum gross vehicle weight of the limo is 4531 pounds---since our M's already weigh about 3600 pounds , that limo with its extra length must weigh about 4200 pounds---that leaves about 331 pounds---not much more than just the chaffeur---so unless they beefed up the suspension and frame on that car, it would be illegal---
  • fuzzywuzzyfuzzywuzzy Posts: 958
    I have seen that Limo down here in Boca Raton FL. I found it funny. It really does look good in person. That's only 1 of them, I saw a silver one to.
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