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Mazda Protegé

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  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    The Protege is for everyone!

    Just joking, I completely agree with you. BTW, are you planning on buying one any time soon?

    :)
  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    I'm 99.9% sure I'll buy a 2001 Pro ES. Soon? I'm not sure. As you can tell, I don't have much free time. Still that's way more certain than Jordan coming back. Hoping Madza will increase the rebate to $1,000. Yes, I'm cheap.

    No ABS period on the MP3?
  • rnd2rnd2 Posts: 31
    i have a black protege also its a 00 ES with a spoiler and mud guards
  • groharlemgroharlem Posts: 59
    I posted a thing about meets before, and need to know if your coming. It is going to be in central,PA. More inforation and details is located here: http://www.geocities.com/firstgenprotege/meets.htm


    There ARE 3rd genners going. We have like 3-5 already going, one of which has the FSZE engine, and totally JDM body kit on it (it's featured on protegetech.com's homepage).


    Let me know!! groharlem@hotmail.com AIM: GroHarlem6

  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    I'll let you know about the cassette deck. Yes, it's the green model for the 01 LX. ;)

    Funny thing happened the other day. I was parked outside my tax-preparer's office, getting ready to leave actually. Pressed the “Unlock” button on the remote, the driver's door unlocked. Then I decided to have a smoke. I don't smoke in my car.

    A man walked by towards a Honda Accord parked two spaces over. Pressed his remote to unlock it. At that same time my door locked again. I thought, ‘Oh oh, they've run out of codes for remotes and now they can lock/unlock other cars.’ ;)

    That was the day I took delivery on my Protege. Of course, I discovered what really happened the next day doing the same thing elsewhere.

    fowler3

    P.S. Henry,come on down to NC and buy an ES, I'm sure the dealer I bought from will give you a good deal. They're desperate to sell cars. I bought the LX 2.0 at $690 under Edmund's TMV price. The LX has a pinstripe on it, no charge. There are no dealer-installed options listed on or next to the sticker. It's a straight sale, no BS.
  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    $690 below Edmunds' TMV price? Is that before (I doubt it) or after the $750 rebate? How much is that relative to the invoice? One has to be really lucky (right time+right dealership+right salesman) to beat the S-Plan price. You knew about the S-Plan, right?
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    You do know if you don't get into the car within like 30 seconds or something, it locks back? Just wanted to be sure to tell you. I unlocked the car yesterday with two toddlers in my arms (my friend's kids), only to get right to the damn car (across the parking lot), reach for the door handle, and have it LOCK right before I could pull it open. You talk about mad! :) I did have to laugh at it though, after it happend.
  • duntulmduntulm Posts: 4
    I'd like to thank the frequent users of this forum for your helpful comments. I've been reading this off and on for the last several weeks. With this (and the new rate), last week my wife and I picked up a beautiful black mica '01 Proteges ES with the GT package and 5 sp. I had my eye on this one sitting in the back of the lot for a few weeks. There were 2 km on the odo when I test drove it. My timing was right since I understand these are getting hard to come by. After 1000 km and 1 stone chip :( on the weekend, I have no regrets trading in my '86 626. Dealer says no special break-in procedure required (except no red-lining). Is this right?
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    Sticker price $16,195. Dealer price $15,095 after $500 rebate and additional $500 off. The $750 no longer applies. And, yes, I know about the S-plan.

    Vocus, that's what I meant when I said, ‘I discovered what happened the next day.’ You're right.

    duntulm, the manual says:
    No fast starts
    No hard braking
    Do not drive at a steady speed for an extended period of time.
    Vary your speeds for the first 600 miles.

    Some dealers say, “Just drive it any way you like!”
    They love to sell parts and service. It's their lifesblood. ;)

    I intend to break mine in the old-fashioned way following the manual. It has proven itself time and again in better than average fuel economy and a good running engine that doesn't use oil eventually.

    Example: '98 Odyssey weighing 3450lbs with a 150hp I-4 engine rated at 22mpg city/28mpg highway...I got 25mpg city/31mpg highway usually. :D

    fowler3
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    That's handy in some situations. If you get mugged in a parking lot and lying on the pavement unconscious, don't worry! Your Pro re-locked itself so the muggers didn't get your stuff. LOL

    fowler3
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I can just see you are the kind of person that sees the good in everything. :)
  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    Is that $15,195 after $500 rebate and $500 off? Or $15,095 after $500 rebate and an additional $600 off?
    Anyway, so your car's MSRP is $13,885+$480(freight)+$800(AT)+$100(keyless entry)+$930(LX Comfort Package)=$16,195?

    If so, the invoice is $15,172. S-Plan is $14,952-$500(rebate)=$14,452
    So you want me to drive hundreds of miles to spend $643 (assuming you paid $15,095, not $15,195) more?
  • Yeah I wouldn't want to waste the 40 bucks either if I wasn't going to buy a Protege. I'd shopped around, driven several different candidates and read for a while and have decided that a Pro would be a best fit for me, plus I've gotten really excited about getting one since I've been following these boards here for a few weeks! This seems to be one of the tighter knit groups in the town hall. :)

    -- rob
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    This place is pretty friendly except when a Civic owner comes in, sees what they are missing out on and tries to ruin the party. They end up leaving with their tail between their legs.

    :)
  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    LOL. I'm not leaving until I get my Pro.
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    The Focus group in townhall is pretty tight-knit too. Misery loves company.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    It's like the kid who bought the wrong toy and realizes it after the fact, so he'll stop at nothing to defend it. Kinda reminds me of another forum (ahh --- ahhhhh ---- ahhhhhhhhh --- JKOBTYHHHHHH!!!!) -- sorry, had to sneeze -- around here.

    Meadeball
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    Vocus, right. ;) Also, if you unlock the Pro, then return to a store for something you forgot to purchase,without opening the door, your car is still secure.

    Henry, since you put it that way, you are right. I didn't have time to do the S-plan, since I was doing two car deals at the same time, same day, almost the same hour (30 minutes apart). Trying to meet the Odyssey buyer's request (have the title when he picks up the Odyssey); the bank's requests (payoff the loan); my insurance agent's request (which vehicle to insure and when), and the dealer's request (settle the deal). No problem. =)

    Don't try this at home! LOL

    fowler3
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    I really wish I had known you were interested in purchasing a B3000 pickup. I just found out while cruising the topics and found you over there on April 9, talking about the B3000 you're going to buy (or that you just bought).


    Mazdas are great vehicles -- as long as they're built by Mazda. I'm on my fourth Mazda right now. Three have been good ol' Hiroshima-built Proteges; the fourth, however, was a Ford-built B2300 SE pickup. And starting at 8,000 miles, it was nothing but trouble. I used to hang out on the Ford Ranger board:


    http://www.fordranger.com


    You can go there and surf/post on the board in different sections, depending on your engine size. You of course should go to the 3.0 liter board. But you won't like what you find.


    I just wish I'd gotten to you sooner. I really mean this. That Ford-built Mazda truck was the worst piece of junk I've ever owned; heck, click on my name and check my profile and you'll see how I feel about it. And if you have lots of time sometime, I'll talk your ear off about my problems and how Mazda North America wouldn't stand behind the product -- even after I met with their Mid-Atlantic service rep three times.


    Anyway, we'll talk sometime. I pray Ford has straightened out its "customer proving ground" philosophy of late, but unfortunately, looking at the fordranger.com site, it doesn't appear to be the case.


    Good luck!


    Meade

  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    I came out of a B2500 recently and overall, it was a good truck. If fact, I never had to do anything to it other than regular service. I was going to go into a new B2300(which has a great new engine, BTW) but then Mazda came out with a deal on the Dual Sport(B3000 and B4000) that I couldn't pass up.

    I appreciate your concern, but I am in a little different situation than most(better left unstated) so I don't foresee any issues there.

    :)
  • Hey! I'm a Civic owner too! :)

    -- rob
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    My comment was related to those that feel the need to defend their purchase on a board that is only about Protege. If they want to compare cars there are other forums for that purpose. So my original comment of "all are welcome, but not all belong" is accurate.

    For example, I really appreciate the fact that Henry. has been in here for quite some time and doesn't use this place to trash the Pro. He checks his figures and facts and posts reasonably. Some may disagree, but that's their opinion as we are all welcomed to have.

    I could go on, but I'll leave it at that, and I think we know what type of people I was referring to.

    :)
  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    I was browsing Gates' web site and found a guide for timing belt replacement schedule. http://www.gates.com/shared/brochure.cfm?brochure=109&site_section=automotive

    It only goes up to 1998. For the 1998 Protege and 626, it lists the replacement schedule for both the 1.5L, 1.8L and 2.0L (626) as 60,000 miles but 105,000 miles for California. Is that consistent with Mazda's recommended schedule? Why's it longer in California? It also says the Protege engines are not interference engines but the 626's (which would be the same as the 2.0L the '01 Protege uses) is. Is that true?
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    I believe the reason behind the longer timing belt replacement interval in California is because of a California law that states major services cannot be required before a specific mileage. I know they are the same timing belt though.
  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    Interesting. So if a belt breaks in Californa at 80,000 miles, Mazda foots the bill?
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    I used to use the Gates guide all the time in my previous life. The book has timing belt installation instructions for almost every car on the road. However, beware of the interference charts. I learned first hand on my dad's 94 Jetta that the guide is not 100% accurate. I think I still have a few of the old valves in the garage. As far as the Mazda's being the same way, that would take some checking when have a spare hour(don't hold your breath).

    :)
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    The CA belt is no different, so I don't know what Gates is talking about.

    :)
  • hboydhboyd Posts: 98
    On my CA State '95 ES, I replaced my timing belt (and 2 drive belts at the same time) at 86K without any problems whatsoever. The mechanic who did the work said the belt was "okay." You can negotiate this service easily with one of the managers... I got it at $280 plus the driving belts ($30)... $310... AND a free oil-change!

    MARTIN
  • hkchanhkchan Posts: 420
    LOL. Negotiating the price with a service manager? Is there anything at a dealership that's not negotiable? Did he disappear for 15 minutes and "talk" to his boss?
    I changed the timing belt in my '90 Integra once (actually twice on the same day but that's a different story) and it was a "fun" experience.
  • vonnyvoncevonnyvonce Posts: 128
    Change interval for timing belt in Massachusetts is also 105,000. It is the same belt I believe but it has something to do with California and some northeast states emission regulations. I don't know if Mazda pays if the belt goes before 105,000.
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