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Mazda Protegé



  • yooper53yooper53 Posts: 286
    I've been reading posts here regarding Ford's plans to share chassis, components with Mazda around 2003.
    Here's some food for thought. Ford's huge losses from the Firestone/Explorer debacle have got to be taking a huge bite out of funds that would have been better spent on R&D. If that's not bad enough they're now asking (demanding) further price cuts from their vendors. How can vendors cut prices without cutting quality? They can't!
    Certainly litigation and defense will have a great impact on Ford's design and engineering efforts as well.
    Poor Mazda. There it is!
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    I bought a new Pro LX 2.0 5-speed manual about a month and a half ago. I love my car. I've taken it on a 2 long trips (about 1200 km round trip each time) and it performed excellently. It's been good on gas and it hasn't been lacking any power when I needed to pass.

    I haven't encountered any cons yet, but there are some people in this thread that have recently had some problems with their Pros and have expressed dissatisfaction.

    The only problem I've had so far is keeping my car clean because it's black. It looks great when it's clean, but it looks the dirtiest fastest.

    At any rate, I love my Pro. It's fun to drive and it looks great. Hope this helps a little Grubbs.


  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    I did NOT get an E-Mail from you, lately.

  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    First of all, I realize, I've been pegged in the past as fanatical PRO-ES supporter. Nonetheless, my pair of 2000 PRO-ES's have almost 27,000 miles on them and I have had ZERO ZERO ZERO problems with them! BTW, Chico has been to my home and can verify, I own a pair of 2000 PRO's. Chico, sat in them and drove in them. He can verify I'm a real person! If anyone else would care to visit my home, I'll be glad to provide directions, if you would care to personally confirm my truthfulness.
    The Mazda Protege is without a DOUBT the best small sedan for under $16,500!!! I owned two Ford Escorts and a Toyota Corolla in the last twelve years, all fine small sedans. However, NONE of them have given me more pure pleasure and pride in ownership! It will be a very very cold day in Hades, before I park a Hyundai Elantra or another Ford Escort in my driveway! The OME Bridgestones' on both my PRO-ES's have almost 27,000 miles on them and have at LEAST another 10,000 miles! Neither car creaks, rattles or groans. Nothing has fallen off and they are as "tight and right" as the day, I took delivery! At my 25,000 mile service performed by Lancaster Toyota Mazda, they rated my tire condition on all 8 wheels as "7". They inspected the break lining on both cars, Lining Thickness: "10" on all left/right fronts and "5" on all left/right rears! Battery condition rated 100%. No fluid leaks, wipers still good and all drive belts and steering and suspension components rated top box.

  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    I have compassion for Protege owners who have rolled negative equity into there Protege and now feel remorse. I have compassion for Protege owners who are not consistent with completing all of the recommended service on a timely basis. I have compassion for Protege owners who were so enamored in the Mazda sports-car heritage, that they abused their Protege. I am NOT accusing any regular at this discussion of doing any of those things! However, we are all adults and we all must take responsibility for our actions. If we beat are Pro's, if we skipped some needed service, because money was tight, well so be it.
    Nevertheless, there are consequence for everything in life. All automobiles are kinda of like, a can of shaving creme. There is a finite beginning and end. How fast we use up the contents of the can, will determine the life of the product. If you dispense more product each use, then is needed to lather up your face, well...the shaving creme will run out faster then necessary. Don't get me wrong. I love to put my Protege's thru their paces, and these are pretty willing econo-boxes. Hey, the Protege's are drivers cars compared to Corolla's or Civic's! But, never for a minute think that V-rated high performance tires are going to last as long as a well built all-season touring tires. Steering components, disc brakes, and chassis tightness will be effected by spirited driving. Personally, I pick my spots and the proper time to enjoy the zoom zoom zoom life style.

  • grubbs1grubbs1 Posts: 69
    Thanks Protoge_fan. Thanks Larry, too (if indeed you were providing an update on your Pros).

    Anyway, I bought the damn thing! This is what I got: 2001 black ES with auto and a moonroof. Everything else came standard(spoiler, 16 inch alloys, AC, CD, fog lights, rear disks, darker seat coverings, etc.).

    This is what I paid: $15,800 plus $280 for accesories(mud guards, wind deflector, bug shield and cargo net), and $295 for the teflon and interior treatment (possibly a bad decision). Total price including tax, title, etc.: $17,801 - $1,000 rebate - $2,000 down = $14,801 amount financed. I got a 6.49% rate through the dealer at a local credit union. How did I do?

    My first impressions of the car are similar to Larry's: it is a great small sports sedan. The quality overall is very impressive. I live in the 'sticks so I have already racked-up over 150 miles in the first day. Even with the sports suspension and the low profile tires, the ride is smooth and confortable in both the city and the highway. I love this little car!
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Wow, I come back to work here, early Monday morning, and BAM! Almost 40 new messages to read! Wow, I must know how to touch chords and funny bones!

    I've just got to reply to Jerry's comment that we should all wait until we have 48,562.3 miles on our Proteges and then comment. Well, like I said Mr. Standefer, my '92 LX had 83,000 miles on it when I traded it for my Mazda-built-not-Ford-tough B2300 pickup (worst mistake I ever made). That '92 LX was flawless! FLAWLESS!

    I had many cars to choose from when I went to make my most recent purchase in May 2000 -- and the gods of employment had looked favorably upon me, and I could've spent upwards of $25,000 -- but I went back to my old Protege BECAUSE OF MY GOOD LUCK WITH THEM!

    Other than that pickup, which I had from December 1994 until May 2000, I've had nothing but Proteges since September 1991. And I've never, ever regretted my decision!

  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    My monthly payment is $284. Would've been $270, but I opted for the 7-year, 100,000-mile bumper-to-bumper warranty. A little peace of mind, JUST IN CASE, for the price of three Big Macs 'n fries a month. I drive a 2000 Emerald Mica ES 5-speed with everything but the sunroof and side air bags.

    Larry -- I'll re-send that e-mail to everybody today.

  • I want to buy an ES or the new PR5 using the S- Plan. Does anyone know a dealership in MA, NH or ME that accepts it? 1.5% over invoice would be a great deal especially with 0% financing.
  • protegenicprotegenic Posts: 199
    Due to my great experience with Mazda on my Protege, I think I am going to get a 626 ES-V6 for my wife. I hate to ask since I know it is somewhere in these 3800+ posts, but what do you have to do to get the S-Plan pricing? I know you have to join some group and there is a small fee. Is there a URL to sign up online? Any help would be appreciated.

    Also, I had a pretty good collision with my 99 ES a couple of weeks ago. Messed up the rear of my car pretty bad, but not only did I walk away (with just a seat belt bruise to show for it), but I was able to drive away. The shop I took it to and State Farm were both amazed considering the damage to the body. I guess the good news is I'll now have two new rear quater panels, trunk lid and bumper!
  • The bad news for you protegenic is that your car just lost value because of the accident.
  • protegenicprotegenic Posts: 199
    I was planning on keeping it for a while anyways, so that really isn't too big a deal for me right now. I still hate it though.

    BTW black01coupev6, I have a question for you. They two cars my wife is looking at are the 626 and the Accord. While we both really like the Accord EX, there is difference of $3K and we are trying to watch our costs. So, if given the choice between a loaded 626 ES-V6 and a LX V6 Accord (which is comparable in price when all is said and done), which way would you go? I know everyone raves about the Accord V6, but my wife actually liked the 2.5L in the 626 better. She didn't like the VTEC's dual personality.
  • manavimanavi Posts: 150
    The S-Plan lets you buy for 1.5% below invoice, not 1.5% over invoice.
  • chikoochikoo Posts: 3,008
    I see that the filter for 626-v6 has the same diameter and thread(am i correct?) and is longer than the PRO filter. Any problem if I use that filter in place of the tuna can filter for the PRO?
  • laurakatlaurakat Posts: 69
    Does your wife like to drive a stick shift? If so, you can't get a stick in the Accord V6, but the 626 V6 5-spd is a nice combination!
  • protegenicprotegenic Posts: 199
    I like the manual, but she prefers the automatic. Since it will be her car, she wins! The sad thing is I can't seem to find a 626 ES-V6 with ABS. Mazda is really dropping the ball here in my mind. It might cost them a sale in this case as I don't really want to buy a car without it anymore.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Ok, I just waxed my car over the weekend. It looked great for the 2 seconds that I was able to look at her before I had to I get back and my Pro looks like crap! Covered in dirty water spots from the rain. I am sooooooo tempted to take it into one of those touchless car washes....Please, can somebody convince me not to do it?? I want it to look clean but I really don't have time to keep on washing it by hand.
    Any suggestions on a quick clean?
    Please help!!


  • protegenicprotegenic Posts: 199
    I posted a bit ago, but I really need some direction on how to get set up to get the S-Plan pricing. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    The funny thing is that I had practically the same truck as you did. It was a 1996 Ford Ranger XLT Supercab with the 2.3L 4-banger. I sold it to my father about three years ago and it now has about 80,000 miles on it. How many problems have we had with it? Zero. Not a hiccup, not a rattle, nada... It is the best vehicle either of us have ever owned.

    We both drive it hard (is there any other choice with a little 4-cyl moving 3,300+ pounds?). It has been absolutely flawless! Brakes were replaced at 50,000 miles, oil and filter change every 5,000 miles, and new tires at 45,000 miles. Except for a Rhino-Lining application to the bed, a wind deflector for the hood, maintenance, and gas, we have not spent any money on the truck at all.

    I'm sorry, but when I compare the two brand new vehicles I have owned (the Ranger and Protege), the Protege has not stood up to my expectations. Like I've said before, I admit I abuse it, but I've abused every single vehicle I have owned and except for the MG (Lucas electronics are evil!!), I have never had as many problems as I have had with the Protege. I don't mind a few rattles, and I expect extra wear on the brakes, clutch, and tires, but this vehicle has exceedingly disappointed. I guess it truly is an economy car built with economy car parts. Perhaps I expected beefed-up parts with the ES just like my Escort GT had. Or perhaps I just expected to Protege to stand up to spirited driving like the 17 year old RX-7 did. Oh well... I guess I'll just have to get a Miata or a "real" sport sedan that's actually built for sport...
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,322
    Take it to one of those wash-yourself places. Don't use the brush. Just use the high-pressure hose to knock off most of the dirt. I do this between hand washings to knock off the dirt spots my car gets from gentle sprinkles.
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