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Jaguar XJ-Series

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  • I'm an ex ford service representative - first of all, if you bought the car new or under new-car warranty it likely qualifies under your state's lemon law.

    Even if doesn't, Ford is incredibly litigation-averse, and a simple letter to the company president (Edsel Ford) from any attorney will guarantee prompt action and intervention.

    Good luck!
  • BAH! I can't believe I typed EDSEL Ford....

    William Clay is the company president of course. Freudian Slip I suppose.
  • klmsklms Posts: 1
    I was driving and my sunroof opened by itself. I was able to close it with the button but now it doesnt work.
    I guess I have 3 options..the motor, the switch or the module. Anyone have problems like this?
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    Fenn - I wanted to follow up on your new '05 XJR . . . what a great deal! I hope you are having better luck with it. I think you made an excellent purchase and a fantastic deal that will not be possible ever again! I absolutely love the Jaguar XJ Series, and believe they represent some of the most gorgeous, elegant and luxurious cars ever built. Maybe not always as reliable as we would like, but they've got something special about them that words cannot describe. They are true classics. Keep me posted.
    TagMan.
  • fennfenn Posts: 197
    Thanks for the interest...

    I am pleased to report that the new '05 is flawless. Not one problem to report after almost 3000 miles. The car is very nice. Fit and finish is perfect, and there are no rattles, clunks, or error messages.

    By comparison, I had issues from the start with the '04. The interior leather trim and trunk liner were sloppy on the day it was delivered, and the error messages on the cruise and airbags started within the first week...It only got worse from there too!

    This experience just points out the pitfalls of buying a newly introduced car in the early months of production. In the nineteen months that passed between the time that my first '04 came down the assembly line and the time that the '05 was assembled, they obviously got the kinks out of the build process, and they remedied the problems and gremlins.

    That said, I am now once again converted to a loving Jaguar owner, My XJR is quick, comfy and classy. It also gets great mileage for a big sedan that goes from 0-60 in 5 seconds. These are great cars.
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    That said, I am now once again converted to a loving Jaguar owner, My XJR is quick, comfy and classy. It also gets great mileage for a big sedan that goes from 0-60 in 5 seconds. These are great cars.

    fenn - That's just terrific! When I consider all you were able to forgive, just so that you can love your Jaguar again, it is quite a testimony to the magic of Jaguar. Few cars in the world have ever had so much mystique.
    TagMan
  • fennfenn Posts: 197
    It is a very, very nice car, although I am not quite so enamored as to call it "magic" yet. However, it is very quick, nice, and classy.

    To tell you the truth, after all of my problems, I really wanted to find something else. I figured that I would start over, and chalk it up to experience. I shopped around, and looked at several other cars. I mainly focused on getting an A-8 or BMW 750. However, after driving the A-8, 750, and Mercedes offerings in the same price range as the XJR, I would get back into my lemon '04 and feel how quick and responsive it felt. I was having mixed feelings.

    The comparision with other cars in the $70k plus range made me realize how quick and light the XJR felt, but since mine was an unreliable mess I never thought I would do it again. Needless to say, I was really happy that Jaguar and my dealer came around to try and save the day. 

    That said, I have to say that the interior and quality of materials and execution on the Audi A8 is the best I have seen, but the A8 is a heavier, less responsive car.  The loaded and supercharged XJR is the pretty much in the same price range as the relatively basic versions of the BMW, Audi and Mercedes, and it yet it is much quicker...It feels like a quick sled by comparison. The gas mileage is better too. The Jaguar is really responsive and lithe in its feel.

    Meanwhile, in a basic XJ8, you can still get many of these attributes, they are just a little less visceral feeling than the XJR when you push your foot down on the accelerator.

    Sorry for the rambling response....but I think that you can sense that I like my new Jaguar much better than the old one!!
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,324
    "Jaguar and my dealer came around to try and save the day."

    Hopefully, after all you endured with your 04, Jaguar accepted full responsibility for their Lemon and made you an offer you couldn't reject.

    That would be the only reason for rewarding a car company with another purchase considering the process they put you through on the 04.

    I wish you smooth roads, quiet travels, and trouble free miles for the next decade.
  • ck8rck8r Posts: 4
    Hi there. I just got a 1999 Jaguar Van Den Plas from a nearby dealer auction and found the following codes.

    P1384 Engine Misfire (Twice)
    P1396 Engine Misfire (Twice)
    P1000 Fuel Air Metering Emission Control

    I'm not too sure what all these things mean in concert, but perhaps there may be someone who may be able to unravel this puzzle. In the meantime, I have to say that it is by far the most comfortable highway cruiser and driving environment I've ever experienced. Right now I have a 96 MB Diesel, a 99 Passat, a 97 A4 Quattro, and the Jag. It's the second one I've had (other one was an XJ6L) and I hope it becomes a long term keeper.

    Thanks!
  • Pete,
    Yes all modern cars that are imported must comply with CA emmissions standards. And yes, I have had dealings with Silvey Motor Company better known as Jagaur of Austin or www.jaguarofaustin.com . These guys take the off lease cars direct from Jaguar off lease program, and sell them all over the world. I know this because when I was there, a truck took one of them away to be put on a boat going overseas (I saw the itenerary). This is where most pre-owned European cars come from, but they WILL show you the inspection reports from Jaguar, or BMW or Mercedes or wherever. Lots of these cars are in excellent shape, but some are old wrecks, or ex-rental cars that are thrashed or whatever. Texas cars direct, or now www.jagsforless.com WILL NOT show you these reports, they claim they don't even exist!! I'VE SEEN THEM!!!! They take the dogs from the auction, and slick them up in their body shop and dump them- what you see is what you get- fresh paint and bondo. I had one of these Dallas Dumpsters, and found out it was previously wrecked (carfax didn't report it) but it was cheap- at first. Then the electricial problems started because of pinched wires. Trade in was horrible because the other dealers could tell it had been wrecked.
    The people at Silvey Motors are HONEST.
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    hey potolock . . . this is 2006 . . . did you just reply to a post from Oct 25, 2003 ? . . . have you been "away" for a while, or am I missing something here? ;)
  • Potluck, after describing Silvey's business model (i.e., buying Jag off lease cars and retailing them all over the world) you through me on the next sentence with "this is where most pre-owned European cars come from...". I think you are you saying that most pre owned European cars are vehicles sold at manufacturer's auctions. There is some truth to this but a lot of preowned European cars are sold via CPO programs, privately sold, released, etc.

    In any case while I have had no dealings with Texas Cars Direct they have an excellent reputation. If they are buying from the same source as Silvey then their cars wouldn't necessarily be any better or worse. With respect to the car you mentioned, if the Carfax didn't pick up a past wreck I'm not confident that a casual inspection at an auction will either. I think you are being too hard on a firm that has a good rep.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,324
    "I hate the guys that criticize
    And minimize the other guys
    Whose enterprise has made them rise
    Above the guys that criticize." :D
  • Had an 89 xj6 that died on me a few years ago now want something that will last me three years. Was thinking of 1997-2000 model years for an Xj8 or XJr. Does anyone out there have an ideas on years which have better quality? Or which is more important year or mileage? Prices? THNAKS>>>j
  • I recently bought a 2005 Vanden Plas. Does anyone know if I can retrofit Sirrius sattelite radio and bluetooth?

    Thanks
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    YES, you can. See your dealer.

    BTW, did you get the rear multi-media package? Or Jaguar-Voice Command?

    Just curious what you paid for the car, and how it is equipped. There have been MASSIVE dealer and factory incentives for the '05's. Historically, it will be seen as one of the very best purchase opportunities that ever happened for a Jaguar buyer. Especially since the current model is so much more reliable than its predecessors, and has much of the latest technology. Not to mention it's a "gorgeous" Jag.

    Congratulations.
  • ck8rck8r Posts: 4
    Hi there. I just got a 1999 Jaguar Van Den Plas from a nearby dealer auction and found the following codes.

    P1384 Engine Misfire (Twice)
    P1396 Engine Misfire (Twice)
    P1000 Fuel Air Metering Emission Control

    I'm not too sure what all these things mean in concert, but perhaps there may be someone who may be able to unravel this puzzle. In the meantime, I have to say that it is by far the most comfortable highway cruiser and driving environment I've ever experienced. Right now I have a 96 MB Diesel, a 99 Passat, a 97 A4 Quattro, and the Jag. It's the second one I've had (other one was an XJ6L) and I hope it becomes a long term keeper.

    Thanks!
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    Have you asked a local service department what the codes mean?
  • fennfenn Posts: 197
    I almost put the Sirius kit in my '05. They have a Jaguar sourced kit that will replace the ashtry and integrates into the center console/dash. They quoted me a dealer cost of about $900. I passed on it for now.
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    I would recommend that you actually SEE an installation first, since this is a relatively new service procedure. I've heard mixed reviews, and I'm still not clear about the special satellite antenna placement. My guess is that the piano black cover plate will integrate well with the existing piano black frame aroung the navigation unit, so that it will probably not be a problem. The Sirius unit is an FM modulation unit, so it ties into a preselected FM frequency and plays through the FM radio. Once the proper FM frequency is selected, then the satellite module can broadcast its own channels through that FM frequency. I'd wait until you can see one. Or, wait for XM, if that's your preference, although I do not know if it will become available.

    I think the installation is likely to be very nice, however, but I'd sure want to see one first. It's not the $900 that I'd be worrying about . . . it's the Vanden Plas!

    Good luck.

    TagMan
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    Actually, fenn, if I remember correctly, you have the XJR and normanbates1 has the Vanden Plas, isn't that right?
    TagMan
  • This car looks to be in great shape inside and out. It has 87k mi on it. It is a sovereign model. My range rover service guy (for two years)is selling it and he states it is a good car. His shop is a jag shop that does rovers, too. He comes recommended to me from a true jag lover so I feel confident in his evaluation that the car is a good one. What exactly is a good 91 XJ6 like with 87k mi on it? I am apprehensive because jags have a bad rap as service hogs and money pits; even as elegant as they are... What should I ask about the car before I buy it? What trouble spots should I be aware of for this particular model and year? He is offering a warranty ... for extra money
  • Let me just address one issue. I find it hard to believe that any company offers a warranty on a 15 year old vehicle. Please advise the name of the company.
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    He is offering a warranty ... for extra money

    What kind of warranty? . . . coverage? duration? legally-binding? etc.

    Price of warranty?
  • blov8rblov8r Posts: 567
    This is my first visit to the Jag discussion group, and I must admit it's been an eye opener. I've always wanted one (in my youth had an XK120 fixed head coupe but blew that engine) and came within an eyelash of buying a pristine two year old Vanden Plas w/ 6,500 miles in "new condition" a year ago ... Jaguar certified and fully covered by warranty, locally owned and known. I chickened out ... had the age old worries about the "little things" that go wrong with Jags and have no patience when it comes to getting stuff fixed even when given a loaner and the dealership's five minutes from my office.

    So I swam upstream and bought the first Infiniti M35 delivered here in Tucson ... I'm averse to buying the first off model. I've done nothing more than routine oil and filter changes in eleven months and the frequent visitors to the M35 discussion board are unanymous ... no problems. No issues.

    I came here a year later still craving a Jag ... I think it's the most stunningly elegant looking car on the planet ... and decided to see what the owners have to say ... worth a great deal more than any commercial evaluations. As I read the posts here I find item after item that has Jag owners perplexed and annoyed, trips back and forth to the dealers, interior trim issues, turn signal issues, etc. (As an aside, one of my associates got an R a few months ago and the horn honked every time he used the turn signal.) So while I continue to drool when ogling an XJ8L or Vanden Plas my longing for that elusive Jag wanes.

    It wouldn't be a fair comparison were it not for the fact that the Infiniti is MUCH less costly car ... mine fully equipped was $53K ... more on a parallel with the Lexus GS ... but I love the M and am reassured that I made the right decision.

    Best of health and happiness to all of you. Bart
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    I think it's the most stunningly elegant looking car on the planet

    Most folks here would agree with that. The latest marketing campaign says it well . . . "gorgeous".
  • Hi: I would steer clear of this year and this XJ series. Jag had just introduced this redesign a year or so earlier, and it had various problems, not to speak of the recent takeover at the time by Ford. (Does the '91 you're looking at still have mineral oil brakes? They fixed that problem after a year or so and returned to normal brake fluid.) They also had various engine problems. The styling was widely regarded as a flop--particularly the square headlights on all but the cheapest version, and the square rear lenses. In fact, sales were so low that they were forced to redesign the car for 1995. They also fixed a bunch of design and engineering problems in 1995. P.S.: I was President of the Jaguar Club of New Orleans throughout the 1980's, bought my first Jaguar new in 1973 (the first XJ-12), and currently own three Jaguars including the 1973 XJ-12. My newest one is a 1995 XJ-R which I almost replaced with a 2005 version, but bought a 2005 Audi A8 instead.
  • Hi

    This is my first post here...I am looking at a 97 xj6 with 76k miles on it for 13000.00. It's a one owner, emac cond.

    What do you think of this car. What are the normal things that goes wrong with it...how muuch are the norema repairs, ....

    What are the pros and cons on this car...any feedback would be helpful....
  • wshflwshfl Posts: 24
    My friend's 1994 XJ6 ( in excellent condition) has a headlight problem - you can't turn thrm off! - unless you disconnect the battery. 2 Jag mechanics have spent 4.5 hours trying to find the cause. Any possible solutions to this strange problem? Thanks.
  • Hi,
    I bought a 97 XJ6 in 2001 with 25k on it. Its an great vehicle. I thought if I bought a "classic" luxury car like a Jag, I'd be more of a Car guy. It didn't work. I enjoy the car, but just don't spend my time tweaking it, polishing it, etc. Anyway...

    My 97 has some quirks:
    1) the auto seat positions buttons have a mind of their own. Sometimes the door lock will join in the rebellion. (Oddly enough, disconnecting the battery resets everything .)
    2) If it misfires once, the "Check engine" light doesn't turn off until you get it reset.
    3) I'd say if you are taller than 6'or have bad knees), you won't like getting in & out of this babe.
    4) It is horrible in the snow. (But you will look good in it the other 300 days of the year).

    Take it to a local shop for routine maintenance and you will save a lot of $$. If something really goes wrong, the dealer is the only one that can help.
    Why is he selling it is the only real concern, I'd have. Did you see a newer Jag in the driveway?

    Good luck,
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