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Several of you have bought them, I know.
But, I am curious, any advice, based on experience?
If so, what brands gave the best service and reimbursement.
I hear of so many stories of "things" not being covered.
Is that your hearing, too?
Anyone know of Wynns ?
It is that name that is circulating in my part of the country and seem to be well thought of....but, I would like to know.
I am considering an extended warranty myself, so these questions are more than just curiosity driven.
Thanks, Jag owners, this is a special fraternity under the sign of the "CAT" !!
Christchurch
I am looking in the Tampa/ St. Pete area but would be willing to look at other reasonably close locations. There is a new dealer going up in North Tampa but they are not through with construction as of yet.
-Jim
As far as a 99... Probably like $1,500-2K less.. if that. On a wholesale level, a 99 with 15K on it isnt worth much less than a 2000 with 15K. Why? The 99 is a low-mile car and carries a big premium. The 00 is an average mile car and does average $$...
Bill
2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])
And they do rent Jaguars almost everywhere in Florida... Youmay haveto do somesearching to find anXJ tho.. seems like most are S-Types.
Bill
Also, any thoughts on why the depreciation is so high? Many thanks.
the 1996 XJ6. The usual companies, like Haynes, don't seem to make them.
Please tell me what tire I should buy. Include tire make, model and size.
Please tell me what has worked for you!
If you are going to drive your kitty in the snow (Which they are pretty good at believe it or not, especially with traction control or even ASC) you need to get your mitts on a set of good snow tires. The OEM tires are NOT even all-season rated.
Yeah, the OEM Pirelli P4000E tires may LOOK like All-Season P4000 SuperTourings, but they do not have an all-season tread compound
So get snow tires! I strongly suggest either of the following:
Michelin Pilot snows (H or V rated snow tires)
Pirelli Winter 210Ps (No longer made... but they have a replacement that is the one that the Jaguar factory cars use in the winter).
See, if you get a set of typical snow tires, they are generally "Q" speed rated (99mph) and are atrocious on dry pavement. Higher speed rated snow tires (The Winter 210Ps used the same casings as, IIRC, P600s) are built as high-performance tires with snow tread designs and snow-oriented tread compounds so the car wont drive like a 77 Lincoln Town car (or worse)in the dry.
Hope this helps! (If you are in or near north Jersey, deal with precision tire and wheel on Rt 17 South in Ridgewood. Danny and Scott are amazing)
As far as repair manuals go.. Factory at the moment. And they are real expensive. Haynes makes one for the XJ40 which is just OK.. But its also only $13 or so.
Bill
Kevin M
The Haynes is OK for some things.. but, frankly, not on a lot of the things that you will be needing to fix on an X300...
Engine is similiar, but I would NOT use that book to do engine work anyways. Might be useful for suspension...
If you need a tech in Central Florida, I happen to know the best. Guy that I use personally and he;s awesome. (Long shot but who knows!)
Bill
They didn't look very "radial" at all. These would probably suck worse in the snow than the P4000E's that were on the models through 2001.
Will the dealer remove the regular tires and put the snow tires on the same rims, or should we buy a winter set of rims too?
Thx.
Well, the 01 Corporate demos I saw atthe auction tonight had em on
They have been OEM in Europe for years...
For snows, I'd use the OEM rims myself unless you can snag a set of 16" Jag wheels cheap on eBay...
BTW, the P6000s are awesome tires.
Bill
The site address is www.tirerack.com
Good Luck
Take care.
Joe W.
Older ones will not.
Typical dealer prices for a couple services are:
30,000 mi (major) service: $850
Oil/Filter Change: $80
Replace damaged underbonnet: $275
I would say that Jags are no more expensive to maintain than BMW's. Don't buy an S-type unless you can deal with an unresolvable shimmy at 70MPH.
For the most part, these cars don't breakdown like the earlier models and older V12's reportedly do.
If you can afford one, you won't be disappointed.
My car insurance only went up $40/yr switching from a Jeep Grand Cherokee to a Vanden Plas.
Good Luck!
http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=9484
Take care.
Joe W.
Also, I can read. And dream too, if you know what I mean.
Take care.
Joe W.
Depreciation on VDPs can be heavy.....
I'm picking up 99 VDPs wholesale for $35Kish depending on miles and color (Low and good in this case)
Speaking of VDPs... Charles? Out there? My computer at home got fried by lightning and I lost your e-mail!
Bill
Bill
I went out to purchase a pre-owned XJ8 and looked at two nice cars. The first was a 2000 with 16,000 miles in Topaz for the 46,000 and the second was a 1999 in Titanium with 19,000 miles for 43,000 thousand. Both included a CD changer. Of the two my primary interest is in the 99 in Titanium.
Based on your previous comments and in reviewing pricing guides on the internet these prices are way out of line. The dealer appears to have an excellent reputation but I don't want to overpay buy what appears to be a substantial amount.
Kelly's Blue Book lists average retail at $39,690 and you previously stated that I should be able to get a good 99 at around 34,000. I will go back and suggest that the prices are out of line but I am not sure if this particular dealer will go down in price. (It is certainly worth a try.)
Two real questions -
1) Will I get good warranty service from a different dealer than I purchase from? Is there a hidden problem in buying from a non local source?
2) Any suggestions where I can get a good car in my area. I am in Northwest Tampa and would be willing to travel to Sarasota or Orlando if the dealer and the deal were right and if the answer to my first question if yes.
Any suggestions? I appreciated your previous comments.
-Jim
You'll get a good car at a fair price.
I've learned from quite a few "upscale" car dealers that Warrantech (Repairmasters) offers the best warranty called Ultimate 2000. It's bumper to bumper, with an exclusionary list of items such as brake pads,rotors, lights, things that wear out. This is the only one my Jaguar dealer sells.
I've also learned this warranty is offered at different prices depending on who's quoting you.
My jaguar dealer quoted us a price of $1959 for a 5 year/100,000 Utimate 2000 coverage on our Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd with 44,000 miles. I bought the same warranty for $1646 from another classic car dealer. This dealer also quoted me a price $900 cheaper for my jaguar. (My jaguar warranty doesn't expire until March 2002, so I'm waiting).
Warrantech requires that the car is under 4 years old and has not more than 60,000 miles.
I'm in Atlanta. If you'd like the name of the dealer I bought it from, please let me know. I might try calling a few other places for quotes on this particular warranty to see if I can get it cheaper before March.
Hope this helps!
I need new tires for my 96 XJ6 (75K). The OE Pirelli P4000s are an astounding $229 at NTB and $155 plus shipping at Tire Rack.
Opinions, please, about:
Yokohama AVS dB
Michelin Pilot XGT Z4
Dunlop SP5000 Symmetrical
Thanks!
Dave in Atlanta
Has anyone else had this problem? The torque converter lockup sounds reasonable but replacing rear springs and shocks doesn't seem like the proper solution.
I have a 1995 XJ6 and there are a couple of places to get help for maintenance. I purchased a factory manual reprint from a guy on e-bay for $300. It's not too bad but it does leave some things to be desired. I have found the best bet is to subscribe to alldatadiy.com. It costs $24.95 per year and is worth EVERY penny. All the diagrams and instructions and directly out of a factory Jaguar manual. In fact I noticed that in the manual I got some torque specs are not listed but I was able to get them off of Alldata. Alldata also has TSBs or "Technical Service Bulletins". These are great in assisting in diagnosis. In fact I purchased an EGR upgrade kit from the dealer but had no idea how to install it. After questioning the guys at my local Jag dealer service department they FINALLY brought out an instruction sheet but would not make me a copy telling me instead to let them do it when I had my oil changed next. Well I change my own oil so that wouldn't work. I noticed on the bottom of the sheet they were showing me there was a date and it said TSB. So when I got home I went on Alldata and searched the date under TSBs and sure enough I found the exact instructions they were showing me. Bottom line: GET ALLDATA. It is cheap and very valuable.
Rick.
1995 XJ6
Rick.
'95 XJ6
Your car has a surge, right? OK.
And they say you need NEW SPRINGS TO FIX IT?
Hmm, that's like saying that a new radiator will fix a broken cigarette lighter.
Total Bull..poop. Where you located? I may know of a decent shop there!
That being said, X300s do have a problem with sagging shocks.
Bill
Ya know.. After you posted I made a call. Was the older cars with the Boges I think.
Mine has Bilsteins too I found out!
Bill
Look at the P6000 Sport Veloces...
But, more importantly..
How do you drive? Like a madman (me) or is a smoothest possible ride more important?
Drive in the snow?
Bill
Based on your own descriptions of driving, I would not sign up for that category (the Highway Patrol may be monitoring this board...). I probably put a higher premium on noise and tread wear than all-out performance.
That said, my current favorite, the Yokohama AVS dB, is rated higher in every performance category than the P6000 Sport Veloce on the Tire Rack survey data, as well as the ride and noise factors. Neither is a snow tire (OK by me, I live in Atlanta), but the P6000 is only V rated, while the Yoko is a full W rated, as I think the car calls for - at least I think that's the noise I hear coming from the garage...
So, looks like I'm headed toward Japanese tires on a British car, but I like the international flavor of the whole thing.
Several people have pointed me back to the original P4000 (not the P4000e) at very low prices, but I can't find any, and I wasn't a big fan of them anyway.
BTW, my car's warranty expired yesterday. Maybe that noise I hear from the garage is things falling off - better go check...
Thanks,
Dave
They are quiet and smooth, but not quite as reponsive as P4000Es.
(PS.. V rated tires are fine... And the P4000s you were told about were the P4000 SuperTourings at probably something like $90 each or so)
The P6000s are grippier than the Yokos, but at ride is harsher and the noise levels greater... So, like anything else, there are tradeoffs..
Bill
They have the P4000 tires you are looking for. I have bought from them in the past and the service is very good.
Rick.
It be Kingfisher Blue!
HFE is aka Kingfisher Blue. The only other blues offered in 1995 were Sapphire Blue (Deep Royal Blue) and Ice Blue (Silver with blue tint). However, Sapphire was not available on XJ6s in 1995.
You color was sold from 1993-1996.
Congrats and welcome to the "club" The car sure has heck beats a new Camry LE, huh?
Bill
So my question is what can I expect as far as reliability goes, the cost of parts and such. Is it possible to get Jag parts discounted? Is it advisable to guy this car without extended warranty?
The XJR is an excellent car! As far as reliability goes, if you buy a 1995, you really want to try and stay with a 5-95 or later production car. I.E. Go for a 1996.
As far as warranties go.. the problem with Jaguars is that the still have lousy ratings in the actuarial tables that these warranties are based on (Irrespective that an XJ8 is a more reliable car than a BMW or Mercedes and at least as good as an LS400 or GS400)
So, for $3,000, is it worth it?
Well.. Since about 1-97 my 95 Vanden Plas has been out of warranty. Since then, I've paid under $500 in repairs. I have also been quite lucky, even though I beat the snot out of the car. Also, I never did get the $250 steering column tilt motor fixed.. I just took it off of "Auto".
(VERY Common fault on 95+ Jags... up there with rust on old Fiats)
There are also a lot of places to buy new and used Jag parts at a discount..
http://www.jagbits.com
http://www.coventrywest.com <--Lots of salvage parts.. some great buys there! Why buy a new, say, Wiper motor?
Bill
-RB
The car is fantastic.
Bill can tell you more about wholesale/retail, but if you get in the ballpark of where your comfortable, they're great cars.
DC
Figure that's a $32K or so car at the auction.
(Wait, is it more of a Brick Red? A 99 ought to be Madeira, but could be Carnival I suppose by special order)
So figure $2K ontop of that (optimistically) in recon and certification... That's $34K...
Etc...
IOW, Its' a lot, but gee.. you get the free extended warranty
That beign said.. I'd say $37K or so is reasonable.
Out of curiosity... Who has it?
Bill
I don't know what they called it, but it seemed to be a darker red than what I assumed was Carnival, now that I think about it.
Didn't you post before that the Madeira was a crappy color?
Oh yea, they have it at Cherry Hill Jag...Classic I think the name is.
Personally, nothing looks like Sapphire Blue on one of these guys.
While we're at it... On VDPs...
But the cheap colors are in descending order:
Rose Bronze (95)
Roman Bronze (01)
Amaranth (98-99)
Morocco Red (94-96) I happen to like this color
Alpine Green (99-00)
British Racing Green (95-96)
Spruce Green (96 and 98 and 00)
Sherwood Green (97)
Anthracite (97-01) Especially in the sunbelt
Madeira Red (98-00)
Expensive Colors:
Topaz (95-01)
Glacier White (90-96)
Spindrift White (97-00)
Platinum (00)
Meteorite (98-99 Special Order, but quite a few exist)
Sapphire Blue (95-98, none in 99, Avail in 00)
Jade Green (93-97)
Ice Blue (95-97)
Carnival Red (95-96 and again in 00)
Bill
Being crappy has its advantages!
Also, the tiny color color samples here make it difficult to tell between Madeira and Carnival. They look too similar here. Am I right in assuming that Carnival is a 'redder' red...almost like a dark red but very deep and bright, if I'm making any sense at all?
I wish there was a good place to compare all the colors, not these tiny squares.