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She's the second owner and has this car since 1994.
What do you think? Let me know ASAP.
Again any help will be greatly appreciated.
jack
Streamwood, IL
jackper22@yahoo.com
"PO301 Cylinder #3 misfired
It was a 1 time code that cleared and reset itself.
Repair code retrieved/code (s)"
Reason I'm posting this is that now the car just doenst seem as smooth as before the check engine light went on that day. When the engine is idle, there is this strange whirlwind noise, kinda like a chirping bird(a dove) and the car seems to shake more than usual in rhythm to that sound. The sound can only be heard at low rpms, maybe below 2500 and it happens randomly(or so it seems). I tried reproducing it at the dealer but at that time it sounded fine(go figure)...
Gotta say that Im extremely dissapointed with this car, sure it handles like a dream, but Ive had more problems with it in about 6 months than I had in 3 years with my Civic Si.
Anyway, any info on what could be the problem would be greatly appreciated.
Dry (cold) highway performance a must.
Has anybody heard of Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice ?
Tirerack lists them as Z-rated (if you search by size) - I'm doubtful though. Any comments appreciated.
clean of snow in winter ( landlord has other concerns ). So I was looking at Dunlop Winter Sports, Nokian Hakka 1's, and Pirellis
( there are so many of them ),
also Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice ( Z rated on tirerack.com, I think a mistake ).
Some of them don't even come in 50 profile:
55 is the smallest for 16 in.- not much performance then, also 205 is the narrowest,
has anyone seen a 195 in 16 in. winter tire ?
( it is supposed to be narrow to roll well in snow ).
asethi: I have same for summer tires !
which Pirellis you got, and what size ?
210s, asymmetric ones ? from who ?
that expensive ? - with separate wheels or larger size wheel ?
The Pirellis I've got are the 210 asymmertic (snow sport) ones in stock size on stock wheels. I got them from direct tire (www.directtire.com), for $800, including free changeover every year. Could have saved some $$$ but I like to deal with local businesses - much better service.
How are your Toyo's doing. Mine won't last another season (this was the 2nd one). I paid $800 for them too - pretty expensive for just 12 months use!
thanks,
Steve
onebadprelude@hotmail.com
The Car has 80,000 miles and the timing belt was replaced at 60,000 miles after the car was 7 years old.
Yesterday while idling at a stop light I heard a strange sound from the engine bay. There was a loud THUNK that sounded like it came from near my left foot near the pedals and then a squeal like you might hear from a vacuum cleaner when it gets hair caught in it or a power steering unit on an old ford when you crank the wheel over to hard.
I have NEVER heard a noise like that coming from my car.
So I hear this THUNK- (belt?) squeal. The timing belt has not broken because the engine is still running. I gently pull over in a parking lot and pop the hood. Nothing seems amiss (though I do not actually know what I am looking for). In any event the engine is idling quietly. I gun it gently - it makes nice honda sewing machine like noises.
I gently drive home.
SO what could this sound have come from? Prelude and Honda experts -- this is the 1992 model with 2.0 liter engine that makes 160 hp.
Any other belts that could cause this squeak? Power steering? Alternator?
I plan to take the car in Monday for my Honda dealer to look at. Any ideas as to what the problem is would be greatly appreciated.
Is there another belt besides the timing belt on these cars that could be making this noise?
Thx. -- JN
-The Poon
Hey guys, waz going oN? ...havent been on in a while, but I just need osme last minute advice before I store my prelude away. It's a 97 with a Neuspeed drop of about 1.5, or something close , don't remember, it also haz da skitz n all if dat matterz. The former owner of the car was telling me something about putting bricks or something like dat between the suspension and the car, I dunt rememebr exactly what he told me. Could someone tell me what I would have to do to the Lude while putting it away for 3 or 4 monthz ? Do I have to change any liquids or could I just leave everything as is ? ?
1. First I would assume that your car is gonna be stored indoors.
2. Change oil & filter (A MUST).
3. Wash & wax the car. Make sure the car is thoroughly dried prior to putting away for storage. Same goes for interior - make sure it's clean and dry. Clean the alloy wheels cos the brake dusts are very corrosive.
4. Inflate the tires to approx. 5-8 psi over. This will prevent the tires from developing flat spots.
5. Seal/cover the exhaust tips so moisture won't go in and build up inside the pipes.
6. Remove the battery and place it on a block of wood. If you decide to leave the battery in the car at least you disconnect it.
7. If the storage has a concrete floor then you may wish to place a thick piece of plastic sheet under the car (I use a 12' X 20' tarp) to prevent moisture invasion from the bottom.
8. I personally do not put the car on blocks because this would make the suspension to sag and it would also put stress on the areas which are not designed to tolerate. If you do wish to jack it up, then you want to put the blocks under the lower arms instead of the frame - this will still save your tires and bearing and prevent the frame from bending. For me, I would just inflate the tires to 38 psi and move the car back or forth once in a while. That'll be just fine.
9. Leave the parking/emergency brakes OFF. Put the transmission in gear or block the wheels.
10. Start the car at least once a month and let it run for 15 min or so. Run the A/C at high temp setting. This circulates the lubricant in the compressor and removes the moisture inside the cabin. NOTE: if the weather permits and the road is clear, you may wish to take it out for a spin. Some suggest that you don't run the engine at all during the storage if you don't drive it at all, since the engine would not reach the temperature high enough to remove the moisture build up in the engine and exhaust (simply running the engine at idle would make it even worse). Anyway, the decision is all up to you. Just make sure you have good ventilation when running the engine.
11. Fill up the tank and add some fuel stablizer in it so the gas won't go bad over time.
12. Keep the wiper blades off the windshield by supporting the arms with folds of towel or something.
13. Lube the weatherstriping with some silicone spray and wax its mating surface.
These are what I do and you can tell that I'm very anal about my car
Hope this help.
Really, other than the Celica GTS, the other 3 cars you mentioned both are fine (have their own pros and cons.)
By the way, there is no sho for prelude, it is the SH and prelude's redline is 7400rpm (which is about 8000 on the tach).
I've driven all of these cars. They all occupy points on that spectrum between race car and GT coupe. If I had to rank them,
Racecar, celica, RSX, Prelude, C230, GT Coupe.
I do not like the Celica and should state that up front. The styling does not attract me at all, it is too aggressive and racey, and I don't think it'll age well. It does feel more responsive than the other cars, and has amazing brakes, but the interior quality was really lacking and I could not stand the shifter. This car has always made me feel the same way I feel about Mustangs: lots of good, but lots of bad to go along with that good.
Of the remaining three... well, I own a Prelude. I've owned several, and love what I feel is superior handling and roadhugging, and much better stability than the other two cars. The Prelude also feels better balanced than both of these cars, better balanced at the limits than many RWD cars even. It's hard to fault the pieces. The stereo somehow manages to sound clean and great; the build quality is exemplary regardless of materials used; handling is solid, the car is predictable, and the car also has a heritage or reputation - those ten or eleven C&D 10Best selections, the numerous 1st place finishes in comparos spanning multiple generations of the lude, etc. The Prelude falls flat in feature content, fuel economy and price/value. If these are important to you, then don't buy the Prelude. Buy the RSX or C230 depending on your budget, you'll get a lot more that you actually care about for your budget. The Prelude does not come with leather, climate control, a hatch, or great fuel economy, and it's expensive, so if these things bother you, you should avoid it. Prelude does make sense if you want one of the world's best handling cars, and are willing to sacrifice amenities and cargo room (and some $$$ compared to the RSX) for it.
Between the RSX and C230, I'd actually like to see a review pitting these two against each other. I think they stack up well. I would choose the RSX simply because the C230 did not seem too quick, but they're pretty comparable. It's tricky to compare the two on features vs pricing. The C230 starts considerably higher and includes much less "surface" features like leather seats, etc. However, the base price gets you pricy things like traction control that aren't even available on the RSX. You can option up the C230 to match the RSX on every feature, and surpass it in others, but then you have a $30k car. The C230 has the wonderful roof. The RSX is much quicker and steers far better, and will have an aftermarket if you're into that. The C230 looks a bit nicer, but they're both similar looking and rather plain. The C230 has the MB star on its grille, which can be worth thousands to the right person. The RSX is likely to last forever... but the C230 is going to be durable as well. The RSX gets better fuel economy. The C230 is RWD, the RSX FWD. The RSX has a much better shifter. See what I'm getting at? Comparing these two cars is difficult because they're competitive with each other, and yet very different.
What youreally need to do is get of the internet and go drive these cars. All should be available for testdrives. Give each a good ten minute drive, imagine yourself sitting in them, pay attention to the feel of the seats, shifter, wheel and visibility, and to the build quality. Then decide from there.
As many others have said, you really can't go wrong with any of these cars.
Although feature content is an issue, value, fuel economy, and cargo space aren't. All I want is a coupe that I can drive to work everyday, but when I want it to will perform like a sports car. Well as close as you can get to a sports car for under 30k. Modifications will be in the cars future but nothing major until the warranty is up. Is a 5th gen prelude's redline 7,400 rpm's?
I can't agree more on the sunroof thing. I myself is not a guy prefer a roof when I first hunting for a car. But, the rest of Prelude fits my needs so good, I just took it. plus, it only add like 20+ lbs of weight, which is not a big deal for me NOW!
I have around 45k miles on it and never had any problem, just changed the tire around 42k and it runs much better with the new upgraded tires (and new tires are always better than bold tires).
Also, you can get very good deals on Prelude now, so sunroof really does not cost you nothing.
Luckily, it's still covered under Aamco's one-year warranty. He had 11 days left on it!
-Josh
They have treated the manuals very differently. Not too long ago one was charging *over* MSRP for a Prelude SH to a friend of mine. The manuals and even better the Type SHs are fairly classic cars, the Type SH being quite possibly the best handling FWD car ever made/that will ever be made. The thing can keep up with M3s on curves and the people who want them drool over them, and dealers know this, so they mark up the few remaining.
It has Nitto 205/55/16 "Extreme Performance" tires with about 20000 miles on them. Decent shape on fronts, wear indicators on rears worn more than fronts.
QUESTION - Any recommendation on tires that will ride a bit better? I also thought about going to a 225 or 235 size. Comments? I'm a believer in Michelins, but may look to Pirelli, and I've heard good things about TOYO tires.
Does replacing the stereo mean that much in resale value? The new one sure sounds better.
Any advice on alignment for the SH parts - is that special suspension, or just a computer that tells the transaxle what to do. Does the SH have a stiffer suspension than the base?
My son loves it - earned it - and will take care of it. He just got tired of driving my old 95 LHS. He said it was kinda "uncool" for a Senior in high school. Hard to believe.....
He loves DRIVING a car, is a safe driver (all the parents want Chris to drive to band and team functions) so we trust him.
I had great experience with Bridgstones about 2 cars ago. I'll check them out.
Thanks again for the preludeonline info - we'll head there today and check it out.
Now I'VE got a hankerin' for a car that DRIVES. I've heard the CL-S Acura is coming with a shifter this spring. Might be worth a look. Looks like shifter cars are starting to make a comeback...
Rob
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Has anyone dealt with those aftermarket faux H.I.D. headlights. They're sometimes billed as plasma or xenon lights, and they shine a bright blue or purple hue.
There's lots of bulbs out there, priced all over the board. Obviously the low-end stuff is a concern. Anyone have any really good or really bad experiences with any particular brands?
Thank You All, Speacial thanks to spinx99 and shmang, you two are true prelude owners.
ez
97 black SH still running good so far, and my son is really getting the hang of shifting and driving the car. He looks really "cool", too. Great cars!
The 205s are pretty well sized for the car. I'm of the school of thought that if you want wider tires, move up to a car which comes with wider tires stock.
hondaprelude.com
preludeonline.com
And spend a couple of hours with your sun just sitting back and browsing the messageboards. Between those two sites, there isn't a Prelude question that hasn't been answered.
Having trouble getting registered for Preludeonline and coulndt find any topics on tire size or upgrades - found just about everything else tho.
I'll check out Hondaprelude.com this week.
thanks much...