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You have to be a member of USAA. To do this, you or an immediate family member must either be a veteran or an active military member. You need to have an active insurance policy with them.
Contact USAA to find out how or if you qualify for membership.
2021 Genesis G90
I hav purchased 8 Mercedes vehicles from my dealership as well as referred over 20 family members and friends who have bought cars there.
You are not being disrespectful - I will be buying my car for $2500 under invoice because of fleet discounts I get, USAA discounts and Mercedes Benz Club of America coupons. But without those incentives to be able to get $4000 under invoice is truly remarkable. Your dealership will lose $4000 on that deal. Remarkable!
2021 Genesis G90
Does anyone know what the Dealer cost is (in percentage under invoice) ? I know that invoice is 7% under MSRP, but like BMW, the effective dealer cost has to be lower than invoice.
I am trying to price out a European Delivery on a 2014 E350 and since MB does not have a straight forward EU invoice like BMW, knowing the dealer profit will help me make a fair deal.
Any help is appreciated!
If you take MSRP of the vehicle, subtract transportation costs, the multiply the remaining number by .935, you will be right on target.
2021 Genesis G90
I am very aware of invoice, dealer cost, interest on floor plans - I was a sales manager in two different dealerships - and I would never, ever sell a car for $4000 under my net cost - NEVER. EVER!
No matter how you look at it, it is the same - you bought a car from a dealer - a brand new - newly redesigned Mercedes Benz E Class sedan for $4000 under invoice.
If that's what you paid , then you got the deal of a lifetime! But no one else can buy that car for what you paid for it.
I have nothing more to say about your cost or deal!
2021 Genesis G90
Invoice (sourced by edmunds) is 63k in the dealer's state. MSRP is 67k. With USAA car buying service, after the 2500 incentive (which the dealer says is actually 2250 after some weird calculation) the final cost before tax is 61k.
Is that a good deal? Can anyone who has used USAA car buying service tell me if their pre-negotiated price is final or if there is more wiggle room?
The $2500 USAA pricing is actually $500 over invoice less $2500, or a net is $2000 under invoice. But there are also MB incentives as well, which ordinarily cannot be combined with USAA pricing. Find out from the dealer if the MB incentives on remaining 2013's is better than USAA. It is my opinion that they are.
You should be able to do better than $2000 under invoice because the 2014's are now at dealer showrooms and in their inventory. For $2000 under invoice, you might even be able to find a dealer willing to sell you a 2014. Mine sold me my 2014 for $3000 under with the addition of my MBCA coupon along with the USAA pricing.
Don't settle for that deal you mentioned - you should be able to do better!
2021 Genesis G90
a) Good Deal
b) Great Deal
Or,
should I even buy a 2012. It has full warranty - 1 Month on it
First of all, how can a 2012 have 1 month of warranty? I don't understand your statement. Next, remember that the 2014's are on dealer lots, so the 2012 is now 2 years old. Further, you did not mention the mileage on the 2012.
As for whether you should buy a 2012, that is your decision to make when comparing what the dealer wants for a 2012, a 2013, and/or a 2014.
Sorry, you just haven't provided enough info for me to assist you in your decision.
Good luck!
2021 Genesis G90
My question was around whether it is worth buying a 2012 model and if yes, for how much given the MSRP is 60K.
If you plan to keep the car for 4-6 years at least, I'd buy it for what I mentioned above. But if you do not plan to keep it for at least that long, I would not buy it.
2021 Genesis G90
Though who is getting 7500 off on 2013? Is this price off the sticker or the invoice?
abacomike: I offered $5K off MSRP for a 2014 E550. Didn't think this was that unreasonable since you mentioned you got $2K off invoice for yours. Sales manager didn't even try to counter offer. Guess I will have to try other dealers.
That was with USAA pricing and MBCA fleet certificate.
2021 Genesis G90
Though who is getting 7500 off on 2013? Is this price off the sticker or the invoice?
Off sticker (MSRP)
2021 Genesis G90
If you are talking about a car not yet built, it must be a 2014. Take MSRP, subtract $925 transportation, multiply remaining figure by .934 and add back the $925, and that is invoice. Dealers still have holdback of 1.5%, but you should be able to get a 2014 for a great price.
2021 Genesis G90
Is this true from everyone else's experience?
/Raghu
but at the moment, based on the dealer's recommendation, i'm planning on custom ordering a 2014 E350 and the price will be determined when the car actually arrives. the dealer says he will give me either the USAA discount that is in effect at that time, or if a better MB incentive exists, we can use that. my desired config is 4matic, p1 pkg, drivers assistance pkg, parktronic, iridium silver, beige mbtex, pano sunroof, rear spoiler, wood/leather steering wheel, lighting pkg, split folding rear seat. msrp, based just on the mbusa build website is $68,700. based on the past discounts mentioned in july/august 2012 of this very thread, looks like USAA discounts that that time should be decent. but i don't know if i can do better than USAA...which is my question.
Is this true from everyone else's experience?
I do not know of any. The Mercedes Benz Club of America has a $500 certificate (as of April 1) that can be combined with USAA after 1 year of uninterrupted membership. I was able to get my new 2014 for $2500 Unser invoice, because I had printed my MBCA coupon prior to April 1st when it was $1000.
Others have posted here that the bought their cars for even less. IMHO, there are deals to be made if you shop!
But in general, USAA pricing is "usually" the best when a refresh is introduced which is the case with the 2014 E 350 Sedan.
Good luck!
2021 Genesis G90
My old hand me down 1995 C280 has finally bitten the dust... Having read through hundreds of posts on the E350 from all you knowledgable folks, I wondered if you could give me some advice.
I'm looking to purchase a 2011/2012 E350 4Matic w/P1 package CPO. Would be interested in anything with <25k miles. I'm wondering where I should be aiming in terms of price for the 2011, or if you think it's worth stretching further for the 2012? I'm based in the NE, around Boston. Prices as advertised seem to range from $36k-43k from my initial research.
Thank you.
/R
What is the MF and RV for May or June, for a 2014 E-350 RWD sedan, 36 months, 15,000 miles? MSRP is $61355.00, price after USAA discount is $59956.00. The dealer gave me an estimate of .00198 for MF and RV 61%. My credit is over 800 and they have not run my credit. I find the MF too high. If the car is special ordered, will the MF be the one for the month of the delivery? Should I negotiate MF and RV before ordering the car?.
Cheers!
The money factor and residual value will be those listed at the date/time the lease is consummated, not the date when the car is ordered. When you take delivery of the car, RV and MF is as of the date the lease is signed.
Hope this helps you.
2021 Genesis G90
They didn't have pricing information at this time as they could simply put in the request. I intend to lease, and I anticipate the RV will be high like for the past Bluetec (vs. gas E35). And, I will do MSDs again to reduce the MF. I do qualify for fleet and loyalty, if this is available in Aug/Sept, so those should help reduce the purchase price.
Cheers!
Mercedes has really not been pushing loyalty in the last few years. They have had pull-ahead programs for current lessees, but loyalty cash from both the manufacturer (mbusa) and their financial arm (Mbps) have all but disappeared. I used to qualify for Mbps loyalty incentives, but they have not offered that for several years.
Fleet incentives (USAA and MBCA, for example) have been outstanding and can be used in conjunction with each other. I bought my 2014 E350 Sedan for invoice less $2500+ because of fleet incentives.
I would expect that if the economy here in our country is about the same in September, you will be able to match or beat my deal on a Bluetec.
This car is well worth the wait!
2021 Genesis G90
BTW, the new buletec will be here till end of Aug. And I was told the base MSPR for E250 will be $51400.
I am not getting such deal in Louisiana - New Orleans or Baton Rouge. I am getting few thousand dollars off.
27 month lease
15k per year
Maintenance
Tax
62,000 msrp
0 down
800 per month
Another dealership 785 per month
They will not budge on price and bulk at the low 500 per month deals some of you are getting.
Any suggestions?
Sometimes you have to ask
/R
$9800 off MSRP. Dealer was in San Jose.
Sounds like others got a slightly better deal, but this was mine and I'm really happy with it since the dealer made it super simple and worked the deal in about 10 minutes.
-David
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2021 Genesis G90
Ok, here is details.
Beverly Hill Benz offered 11K off one bluetec on lot. Long beach Benz offered 11.4K off any bluetec on lot. Penske (west covina) benz offered 11.45K off any bluetec on their lot. I bought from Penske since it is the most close to home. Sales was great, no trick, simple straight transaction. Done all negotiation by email/phone, finish paperwork on site.
I used to live in Southern California back in the '90's. Penske is a big dealership organization and usually can beat most any deal in the area. I leased a '91 300E from Mercedes of San Diego and serviced it at Penske when I moved to Los Angeles. Good service department.
Enjoy your new Bluetec - you got a great deal, in my opinion considering that 2014's won't be out until August/September.
2021 Genesis G90
2014 E350 Sport 4matic
Black
Silk/Beige MB-Tex
Burl Walnut Wood trim
Lighting Pkg
P1 pkg
Drivers Assistance Pkg
Parktronic (active assist) & SVC
Keyless Go Pkg (should include the electronic trunk closer)
Panorama sunroof
Rear deck spoiler
Sport wood/leather steering wheel
Split folding rear seats
115v outlet
MSRP is 68360 and the best quote I have received from a dealer for this custom order is $63340 which includes a USAA discount. I'm not sure what others are doing to get better deals but for some reason this is the best I've been able to get. Going to try to shop around a bit more, but I'm close to pulling the trigger for this price.