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Honda Civic Care and Maintenance

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  • matteo3matteo3 Member Posts: 3
    I recently purchased a reconstructed 1993 Del Sol SI. No owners manual, no original door sills to indicate recommended front and rear tire pressures. Haynes Repair Manual no help. If anybody knows the factory recommended pressures, I would greatly appreciate your passing it along. Many thanks.
  • capriracercapriracer Member Posts: 907
    According to Tire Guides:

    Your vehicle originally had P185/60R14 82H's on 5.5" wheels inflated to 29 front and rear.

    Hope this helps.
  • matteo3matteo3 Member Posts: 3
    Thanks for the prompt and complete information, capriracer. It is greatly appreciated.
  • frank138frank138 Member Posts: 4
    Hi, guys,

    I have a 01honda civic LX, 5-speed. My dealer keeps telling me I should do 30k miles maintenance. His service includes:

    1. replace oil and filter
    2. replace air filter
    3. rotate tires
    4. replace spark plugs
    5. replace transmission fluids.
    6. service brake(?)
    7. inspect this, check that, etc.

    And he charges around $300 for all the above.

    I don't know whether all is necessary. Because the manual only suggested to do 1, 2, 3, in addition, the air condition filter should be replaced. I am not sure whether I should do all the dealer suggested, or follow the manual, and do just item 1, 2, 3.

    What you guys usually do at 30k miles?

    Thanks!

    Frank
  • rivertownrivertown Member Posts: 928
    I just buy the dealer service pack, though I think it's not at all necessary and it's over priced. My reasons - fewer than 10K miles a year and my dealer's service dept has (with one exception) been very good to me. If either changes, I'll dig up a good independent mechanic and do what he/she recommends or get a Helms manual and DYI.
  • snarkssnarks Member Posts: 207
    Follow the manual requirements, dealer's are always looking for extra money to fund the service departments. The extra work they do is not bad for the car just not necessary. This is coming from an owner with 200k miles and no problems on a 95 Civic EX maintained according to normal schedule in manual.
  • frank138frank138 Member Posts: 4
    Thanks a million!

    Just curious, snarks, you mean you follow the manual to the letter? oil changed every 10k miles? I think it is enough although my deal always pursuade me to do it every 3500 miles.
  • snarkssnarks Member Posts: 207
    The oil change requirement on my 95 Civic is 7500 miles normal/3750 severe. I used 5-6k miles or every 6 months whichever first. Otherwise I followed the manual requirements and used an independant mechanic (ex Honda tech) and had no problems except radiator at 153k miles and clutch at 101k miles.
  • nosnednosned Member Posts: 1
    I rotated my tires on my Civic and I can't find the wheel nut torque specs. I torqued them to 80 ft/lbs for now (my Chevy Lumina is 100 ft/lbs). Also, how important warranty wise is it for a dealer to do everything on the 20000 mile service (as in inspect latches, etc)? I've changed my own oil and rotated my tires, because the dealer package is very expensive here. I just don't want any warranty surprises later. Thanks!
  • snarkssnarks Member Posts: 207
    The most important items are oil change receipts and fluid changes and/or tune up items as they occur. Lubricating a latch is doubtful to become a warranty issue and even if an issue they probably would grease the thing.

    good luck
  • roderick33roderick33 Member Posts: 1
    the scheduled maintenance has been done and the maintenace req'd light on the console is still on is there a switch some where that i can turn off or does this light come on when the car reaches a certain mileage it has 43,290 can someone help.
  • rivertownrivertown Member Posts: 928
    I think you'll find that in your owner's manual. I can't remember the procedure offhand, but I do remember it's in the manual.
  • seafseaf Member Posts: 339
    I know that a lot of their inspections during an oil change is visual. But to check the brake pads, don't they have to take the wheels off? Or do they have a tool that they can stick in there to check the pad's width without taking the wheels off?
  • jagcatjagcat Member Posts: 1
    I don't have a manual, can anyone tell me how to turn that light off?
  • ncampbell2002ncampbell2002 Member Posts: 163
    Put the key in the ignition, keep it off, then hold down the trip reset button on the dash, then turn the key to the ON (ii) position and keep holding the trip reset button for about 10 seconds and it will turn off, and yes the maintinence required light does come on at specific mileages to which it is programmed, so you haven't seen the end of it!
    Nick
  • avsfan19avsfan19 Member Posts: 1
    Hello. I have a 98 Honda Civic Coupe DX with 61,000 miles on it. Recently, the battery and alternator went out and had to be replaced. The alternator was purchased at AutoZone and installed by a local mechanic. Well, the mechanic charged $130 for replacing the alternator, 2 hours work. It took that long because after it was installed, the car worked, then he shut off the engine and then restarted it and it blew three fuses. Then on Monday he said it was because there was a short in the new alternator. So he had to get a new one and install that. My question is, since the alternator from AutoZone was under warranty (it was traded out at AutoZone for the third one), does the warranty cover labor costs? We are being charged another labor charge for installing the third one. But only $65 this time. Now, just to let you know, I am very shy and have a hard time confronting anyone so to go back to ask for one labor charge to be refunded is very very hard for me. So if it probably won't work, I'd like to know first so I don't make a fool of myself. Thank you very much.

    Leeann
  • dudkadudka Member Posts: 451
    Chances are the labor charge isnot covered by AutoZone warranty. The only way you could have had the labor charges covered if the mechanic got the alternator through his "source" then labor would have been covered. To get the best asnwer, stop by AutoZone and inquire, nicely.
  • barisbaris Member Posts: 6
    Hi all,

    I have a '03 Civic EX Sedan. I take my own oil (Castrol GTX 5-20 regular) to my mechanic because 1) he doesn't carry 5W-20 and says it's OK to put 10W-30 which makes me uneasy; 2) becomes cheaper that way.

    I want to cut the cost further and take my own oil filter, but I don't know what to buy. Does it come in different types like engine oil comes in different viscosities? What brand would you recommend for an average driver? I'd prefer something not expensive as long as it does a good job.

    Thanks!
  • ncampbell2002ncampbell2002 Member Posts: 163
    I always use a Mobil 1 filter in my cars which cost $9.99 along with Mobil One 0W 20 oil so I can extend the oil change interval to 7000-8000 miles. In the past I have also used the Purolator Pure 1 filter which you can find for $5.99 at most auto parts stores. The reason I stopped using those is because the store I go to stopped carrying them for some reason, but that is a great filter too. If anything avoid the Fram filters. Yes the price may be right at only a couple of bucks but there have been many stories of those filters breaking down and circulating filter parts through the engine which you don't want for sure. I'm glad you didn't listen to your mechanic with the oil viscocity because it can make a difference in fuel economy and longetivety of your engine because if you start putting thicker oil in the motor then it may not lubricate all parts properly especially during cold starts. Hope this helps. (BTW, I own a 2003 civic ex coupe)

    Nick
  • dudkadudka Member Posts: 451
    Why not cut out the mechanic all together? Do your own oil changes, you already buying the oil and filter and you are waiting for the guy to change the oil. Get the oil collecting pan from auto parts store and a 17 mm socket.
    Anyway, you may want to buy Honda branded filter just for the sake of warranty. I do my own changes with Exxon superflo 5W-20 and Honda filter. That way if there is a problem with the engine, they can not deny warranty because I did not use Honda filter with the "special anti drain back valving"
    I did Mobil 1 oil change, but did not see the benfit, for 4 times the price, I can only go twice as long between changes.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,132
    Most other oil filters have had the antidrain
    back valve for years. That's not a Honda exclusive.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • barisbaris Member Posts: 6
    Hi folks,

    Thanks a lot for the responses to the oil filter question.

    Nick gave me a furher cost cutting idea. Using synthetic saves money in addition to time. Yes, it is 2.5 times more expensive than Castrol GTX, but that pays off for the labor I pay my mechanic for changing the oil.

    My question is can I use the Purolator filter that Nick has suggested on synthetic oil? Or do I need the Mobil brand to get the 7-8K milage? The PepBoys shop here only carries Purolator.

    Oh, BTW, I have 11K on my '03 Civic EX. Changed oil twice so far at 5K and 8K. Is it OK to switch to synthetic or is it too late now?

    Also, how do you figure out if your car needs an oil change? For me, I feel I should when my engine sounds diesel-like, and it happens after 3.5K miles.

    Thanks again!

    Baris
  • ncampbell2002ncampbell2002 Member Posts: 163
    You can use any filter with the Mobil 1. My mechanic that I use for service on more major issues I can't fix myself actually recommends Purolator over any other filter. He has been in the business for 29 years and specializes in foreign autos. Mobil 1 filters do not have a special additive or anything to go with the oil, it just depends on the quality of parts used to manufacture the filter. As I stated earlier, the only reason I switched to a Mobil 1 is because my local auto parts store stopped carrying Purolator, and the only other choice was Fram. It isn't too late to switch to synthetic oil. I don't think it ever is. However I have heard from several people that it is bad to switch back to regular oil from synthetic oil after you have been using synthetic oil for awhile. Someone correct me if you know I'm wrong.

    If you keep using regular oil, I would still extend the interval to at least 5,000 miles as the owners manual states, as you are wasting your money if you change it in shorter intervals. (Unless your normal driving includes sitting in a parking lot on a local expressway or driving through a constant duststorm, you get the idea...) The newer engines are a lot more clean and efficient and therefore do not need an oil change as often.

    I have used synthetic oil in my previous vehicle, (a 95 civic) as well with a Purolator filter and have never had a problem. In fact I actually went on 15,000 mile intervals with the synthetic oil for about 80,000 miles just changing the filter every 7,500 and then changing the oil every other time I changed the filter. I would look inside the valve cover occasionally for buildup and never found anything. Basically synthetic oil does not break down nearly as fast as regular oil, as long as you keep it clean.

    Last comment, go with Dudka's advice and change the oil yourself!!! I change my own oil and I only do about 20 minutes of actual labor. The rest of the time spent is letting the oil drain out of the car. I usually let it drain for a good hour to let out as much as possible. Your Pepboys store will help you get the proper filter socket, and thats the only special tool you need. Once you raise the car up on a jack or a lift the filter is very accessable. It will save you a lot in the long run.

    Nick
  • dudkadudka Member Posts: 451
    I don't know about the rest of the civic's but on the Si, all I have to do is remove the passenger side front wheel to acess the oil filter and the plug. If you are more fliexible than I am, it is possible to reach the filter and drain plug by turning the wheel all the way to the left.
  • barisbaris Member Posts: 6
    OK guys, I now know all I need to know regarding oil change. Thanks a lot for the help.

    While I have you here, could you also tell me one last thing : Do you do front wheel or all wheel alignment for your Civics?

    The owner's manual has specs for rear as well, so I thought it is 4W alignable. My mechanic disagrees (BTW, he's a German car passionate and I am starting to think that he has a grudge against me because I sold my 95 Golf to get the Civic).

    Many thanks! Again!

    Baris
  • mattpdxmattpdx Member Posts: 41
    ...and I have to say I love it. Once the "I got a new car" euphoria wore off I realized that I've got a great everyday car to drive. There are only a few quibbles I have with it. Why aren't both windows auto down/up? Why does first gear stick a bit? Why is the HVAC so hard to find the perfect temp? But other than these, I love my car. I have the mudflaps for it and plan a few other things. I want fog lights and the spoiler. I just have a few questions.

    The owner's manual says change at 5000mi. I drive my car pretty nicely but rev it up occasionally. Also the roads are really bad here. I'm just concerned about making sure my car stays as nice as possible.

    One more thing. I was told NOT to use Armor All on the dash. Has anybody heard about this?

    Thanks!

    MattPDX
  • bd21bd21 Member Posts: 437
    You definetly need a 4 wheel alignment. For the record, most cars today have adjustments on all four wheels.
  • ncampbell2002ncampbell2002 Member Posts: 163
    I have the exact same car only the 2003.

    You don't get auto up/down windows on both windows because even though the Honda Civic is very well executed, it is still Honda's economy car. Do you have a M/T or A/T? If you have a manual transmission, you will always find in any M/T first gear is always a little stubborn to shift into, especially when you are moving. You will get used to the HVAC system in the car. It took me a little getting used to going from a slider to a knob. Follow the owners manual recommendation of changing the oil in 5,000 mile intervals. You are wasting time and money if you do it in shorter intervals. I put a set of Pilot fog lights on my car in the spot where the dealer installs them and they look great under there. I found that those were the only size that would really fit well under there unless you go with the factory option. I also have the factory spoiler on it and it looks great on there! IMO, MUCH MUCH better than those aftermarket ones that stick up higher than the car itself. I've got a few other things done to it to just let me know if you want any other tips or advice and I'll answer them the best I can.

    About the alignment, yes it is 4 wheel like bd21 said, however my family and I have owned 5 Hondas so far, a 1985 Accord which was totalled @ 192,000 miles, it never needed an alignment, a 1989 Accord which we retired with 260,000 miles, it never needed an alignment, a 1995 Civic, sold it with 140,000 miles, it never needed an alignment, you get the idea. Unless you do something on the road severe enough to throw off the alignment, Hondas generally never need to be aligned. And our family does drive on some pretty severe roads as we live in the pothole king of America....Michigan.

    Nick
  • irnmdnirnmdn Member Posts: 245
    I am close to buying a buying a used 2002 EX Sedan 5 speed from a private party. Does this model year have any issues to watch out for?
  • firstcivic1firstcivic1 Member Posts: 16
    I'm just an average guy. i don't normally do my own oil changes i just go to a quick oil change place. whats wrong?
    i'm buying a new 04 civic Lx in a few days.
    any advice
  • ncampbell2002ncampbell2002 Member Posts: 163
    If you don't like doing your own oil changes, that's fine. I would recommend you going to a Honda dealer to have it done though unless you know for certain that the quick change place will be using 5W 20 oil in your new civic which is recommended by the manufacturer. Most quick change places generally use 5W 30 or 10W 30 which is not even mentioned in the graph that the owners manual provides.
  • dudkadudka Member Posts: 451
    I agree with ncampbell2002 that you will be better off going to your honda dealer to do oil change. It will help you in the future with possible warranty issues. I am sure I will be critisized for saying that, but your local dealer can make it very difficult for you to get warranty service if you have not developed a "relationship" with them. And by "relationship" I mean forking over $24 for 15 minutes of labor and $6 in parts. But you are better off paying $24 at the dealer than $19.99 at Jiffy lube. At least at Honda you have some sort of recourse in case something goes wrong. The fact that "Quick Change" place does not have 5W-20 has nothing to do with my recommendaiton against it. The difference between 5W-20 and 5W-30 is almost negligible.

    The reason I do my own changes is because it is more economical, faster, and I don't have to schedule an appointment 2 weeks in advance. I use Exxon 5W-20 and Honda filter. Once my engine stops using oil I will switch to Mobil 1 5W-30 (the closests grade to 5W-20 availabe at Costco) and Honda filter.
  • bd21bd21 Member Posts: 437
    Dudka, what did you mean you will switch to synthetic when your car stops using oil? If your car engine is tight, you shouldn't have any noticeable oil loss between oil changes. During break in, which is totally complete within 3000 miles you just have to refrain from extremely hard accelerations and extended same RPM driving long term. And most of those precautions are only semi-critical the first 1000 miles. If you are using oil now, it will only get worse, it doesn't get better. Synthetic may even make your oil loss worse, because it flows even better. The standard acceptable oil burning for all car makers is one quart per thousand miles. Hopefully, you are not losing anywhere near that much. Sometimes it is the luck of the draw, but ideally you shouldn't be using any oil between changes that is noticeable. Yes at high speeds (80 plus) you will burn a little, but usually not enough to add any.
  • celica115celica115 Member Posts: 169
    My Civic is only 3 days old. I opened the hood today, and I saw the oil cap IS NOT closed. Yes, it had been opened since I got the car 3 days ago. The cap is up side down on the top of the engin. Anyway, the first thing I did, of course checking the oil level. Here is the problem. The oil is so clean and thin, I can't see the level is low or high. Any suggestion?

    I read the driver manual. It said "do not change oil until 5,000 miles". The maintance page said that oil change at 10,000 miles. So when is the time for the first time oil change? 5,000 or 10,000 miles? The manual also said oil change only at 10K, no oil filter require. It said oil filter only requires every 20K miles. Is that true or 2004 is different?

    Thank you for the input.
  • ncampbell2002ncampbell2002 Member Posts: 163
    I'm not sure what you mean by your car is losing oil and when it will stop. You might want to get that checked out. My 89 accord with well over 200k never used oil, as with my 95 civic, and now my 03 civic. However if you are going to switch to Mobil 1, I would recommend using the 0W 20 that Mobil 1 puts out which is also their recommended oil for the new Fords and Hondas that recommend or require 5W 20. That is all I have used in my 03 Civic so far.

    As for the person with the 04 lx, you probably didn't lose any oil out of there unless you notice oil splash all over the inside of the engine compartment, and change the oil at 5,000 miles unless you are doing almost pure highway travel at a constant 65 mph which I wouldn't recommend anyhow during the break in period.
  • celica115celica115 Member Posts: 169
    Thanks for your input. I saw a very little oil splash under the hood and the area around the oil cap.

    I am not very good for the cars. I want to know what will happen if the car running without the oil cap closed. Will the oil pumping out much? Thanks.
  • ncampbell2002ncampbell2002 Member Posts: 163
    The oil pump itself is not necessarily pumping out the oil if the cap is open, but what you have when the car is running are 16 valves moving back and forth underneath the valve cover which splashes the oil around to keep the vital parts lubricated. With all that splashing around, it is likely that some oil may have come out if the cap was not screwed on correctly. Open your oil cap and take a pen light and you will see all the valves sitting in there with the oil in there as well. Thats what is underneath there. The oil pump is to take that oil from the valve cover, run it through the filter and take cleaner oil from the pan and the cycle just keeps going back and forth. I highly doubt any damage was done to the vehicle, but I would at least take it back to the dealer and see if they will clean up the mess for you and maybe give you a free oil change for the hassle and incompetence they exhibited.
  • dudkadudka Member Posts: 451
    OK, here is the situation, last January I bought a 2002 Civic Si. It was made in march of 2002, so it is one of the first to be built. I drove it home from the dealer, it only had 8 miles on it, and noticed blue smoke from the tail pipe. Called the dealer immediately, they assured me that the new Si engine has moly rings and they will leak oil for the first 10-15,000 miles. Honda did oil monitoring for me, in the first 5000 miles I was losing about 1.5 quarts every 1000 miles. From 5,000 to 10,000 miles it subsided to 1 quart every 1000 miles. I am at almost 15,000 miles and the oil loss has diminshed to 1/4 quart every 1000 miles. I figure I give it another 5000 miles and then switch to Mobil 1.
    There is no reason to be alarmed. I knew for a fact that S2000 engines use quite a bit of oil, and since Si is a high perfomance engine it is only logical to allow some oil consumption. (some other cars come to mind, Mini, VW 1.8T, ect.)
    Besides, every engine, no matter what they tell you, uses oil. If an engine is tight you will notice oil loss, if the seals are not very tight, the oil lost is replaced by the water condensation that is formed when the engine is off. So, when you check the oil it seems as the level is normal, but some portion of it is actually water. I may be wrong about it, but does make sence to me. This would explain why sometimes people see thier oil level go up.
  • celica115celica115 Member Posts: 169
    I took the car to the dealer yesterday. The technician said it was losing about half quart of oil. Free re-fill of course, and cleaned up the splashed oil around the cap.

    The master key made by Honda has a computer chip build-in. Is the key can be duplicated easy by any Honda technician? Do they need an authorization to duplicate any honda key? I am thinking about the car's security. The technician who installed the alarm system knows the bypass code for the system, if he can duplicate the key very easy, then my car can be driven by any Honda technician on the street. Any idea?
  • bd21bd21 Member Posts: 437
    I'm glad you are only burning 1/4 of a quart per thousand miles now, that is at least reasonable. Let me clear up a couple of misconceptions that you have though. Chrome moly rings are nothing new, I used them in motorcycle engines I was rebuilding almost 30 years ago. No part of an engine, especially rings take more than a few thousand miles to properly break in. Everything after that is more accurately called wear. If you oil level ever goes up, you have a definite mechanical problem, most likely a coolant leak which will lead to engine failure. Yes, all cars do burn a little oil especially while running high RPM like I said, but most tight engines will not require adding additional oil between changes. Moisture does not build up in an engine to the point of changing oil levels! Yes, I have rebuilt an engine or two over my 30 years of working on motorcycles, outboard and cars. It sounds like you are happy with your car and that's all that really matters.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,132
    If a car is driven on short trips in cooler/cold climates with no longer trips of 15 or more miles at moderate speed, the combustion byproducts can collect into the oil pan without being drawn off hot oil by the PCV system. This can cause a maintenance of the oil level over a period of time as oil is used slightly by the engine, or possibly a slight rise.

    Then when the car is driven on a longer drive, the positive crankcase ventilation system has enough time to drawn those condensates out of the oil after the oil is warm. This can cause the oil level, which had remained steady for weeks of cold weather driving, to drop an amount the owner notices. The owner may assume the car has started to use oil based on that one trip. But the water being evaporated out of the oil has allowed the volume or "real" oil left to shrink to what it should be without the contaminants.

    Oil rising can be coolant leak, or in the old days, a fuel pump leaking into the oil.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • shoelessmonkshoelessmonk Member Posts: 1
    what is the life expectancy of a 93 del sol?
    can i assume i will get 200k plus out of it,
        like i have out of my current 87 civic si --even tho i treated it like a four wheel drive truck in our mutual youth?
    the del sol im considering has 79k, asking 4000. auto tranny (not my preference, but ... )
    will i get another 120k out of this purchase? i want something i can rely on to trek me 700m r/t once per month thru the desert for the next 5 years.

    thanks so much.
  • snarkssnarks Member Posts: 207
    I currently own a problem free 95 Civic EX (similar) with 200,000 miles. I have performed all required maintenance and regular oil changes. The only unexpected repair thus far is a radiator.

    Anyway the del Sol, it depends if not city miles before and also a major concern if any maintenance performed on a regular basis. If yes a likely answer is yes it probably can. Being that old though you will may have issues more to do with age than wear.
  • eternalblueeternalblue Member Posts: 15
    Hi All,

    Christmas eve, after driving 5 hours to family, I oepn up my trunk and lo and behold, everything on the left side of the trunk is soaked! There's about 2 inches of water in the well where the jack and spare tire are. The carpeting is soaked on the left half of the trunk floor - and the bottoms of the left side trunk lining are soaked as well.

    The car's only a year old and it certainly has rained before and I've never had this problem.

    The interesting thing was that water did not seem to be 'dripping from above' as a leaky gasket might cause --- all my packages in the trunk were only soaked on the part that was resting on the trunk floor. Their tops were bone dry. So nothing was 'dripping down'.....

    I tore apart the inside of the trunk and finally I found the source, though I can't figure out WHAT this part is for!

    If you peel back the trunk liner on the left side wall, there's this mysterious black plastic vent-type thing that's about 6 in wide by 4 in high. It has a little moveable flap on it on the outside. I have no idea what it does, but it's completely falling out of its opening. It's not secured in any way into the wall of the car - you can move it all around without taking it out - and there are big gaps for water to come in since the plastic piece is not sealed down.

    What does this part do? What is it called? I was driving through torrential downpours with LOTS of deep puddles - water was kicked up from the tire into this gap and soaked the trunk. How can this happen? Anyone have a similar situation? Im trying to get the dealer to fix it since it's still under warranty but no one can get me in anytime soon.

    ALSO - second question - unrelated ---- is the maint required light set to go off at predetermined intervals? I hit about 20,900 and suddenly it comes on everytime i start the car. My last oil change was only about 1500 miles ago. Anyone had this happen???
  • ncampbell2002ncampbell2002 Member Posts: 163
    Sorry to hear about the trunk, unfortunately I have never heard of anything like that happening. However with the maintinence required light...yes there is automatic intervals in which it will go off. It is preprogrammed to do so as you rack up the miles on the car and is completely independent of how you maintain the vehicle. Hope the trunk flooding is solved!
  • eternalblueeternalblue Member Posts: 15
    my dealer could not get me in anytime soon :( So, the flooding will have to wait....

    In the meantime, does anyone know what that little black box thingy is FOR?? I just don't get it. I don't see how it can be 'ventilation' because it's carpeted on one side and car metal on the other (pretty close to it.)
  • firstcivic1firstcivic1 Member Posts: 16
    thanks for the past info.
    i picked up my 04 civic lx. today
    the oil cap was a little loose.
    no highway noises and god a/t.
    thanks for the past help.
    now it's time to have some fun
  • celica115celica115 Member Posts: 169
    I have put 135 miles so far. Love it. Three of my friends said it is roomy after their first seat on my Civic. I am shopping around for the motor oil and filter online. So far the best place I found is manhonda.com. Dose anyone know the better place for honda parts?
  • slickracerslickracer Member Posts: 38
    H and A accesories has good deals on Honda oil filters. Pep Boys often runs Pennzoil for .89 a quart. Their 5W-20 is hard to beat for the price.
  • dudkadudka Member Posts: 451
    My Si had the same problem, took the dealer 3 times to find and fix it. They had a guy sitting int he hatchback with the lamp while another was hosing down the car, they could not find anything. Then I noticed that during one of those downpours that when my car was sitting still the trunk and spare tire well were dry. But as soon as I drove, it would get wet and water would build up in the spare tire well. Told the dealer about it, they found what the problem was. They told me that it was one of the seals in the under body. When I got the car is smelled strongly of plastic filler.
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