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It a $2 or even $3 a gallon gas world then that makes sense. In our current $4 and up gallon world I don't know. EPA ratings are 21/31 and 24 combined for the I4 Accord and 26/34 and 29 mpg combined for the Civic. At $4.04 per gallon, 15k per year, 55% city driving the Honda would cost you $436 more per year for gas. Just something to think about.
If I did not HAVE to get a new car today I would wait until I could get a deal before I did anything. As others have mentioned, some areas have some better prices making it possible to net some savings perhaps by traveling to get a new car.
Dennis
Indeed just about everything is a moving target. Anymore it is not enough for have a sharp pencil. It is good to have a quiver of sharp pencils and HUGE ERASERS.
People that used to scoff at say 50 mpg, are starting to see its utility.
The local dealer wanted $1,900 MORE. So I drove the whole 80 miles and got it.
Of course if you make 712 an hour, the deal cost you. :lemon:
At $4.04 per gallon, 100k would be just $2,907 more as an estimate. You get a larger car that is probably a bit quieter and should have a higher resale value (in terms of dollars, but maybe not in terms of percentage of MSRP). If you could get the Accord for the same price as the Civic, then you would just pay for the extra gas and then get some of that money back when you sold the used car. If gas goes higher or even just stays around $4 the Civic may be worth nearly as much as the Accord after 100k - no way to know for sure NOW. Even if you have to pay MSRP for the Civic and got the Accord for invoice, you would be paying $800 more for the Accord (LX with AT for each model). So you are looking at $3,707 over 100k estimate at $4.04 per gallon.
Dennis
So for example with a Civic (I get between 38-42 mpg- 38 mph for discussion purposes) /100,000=2632 gals @ 4.04=$10,632. Curiously the 04 Civic with 67k can sell for app the same price purchased NEW!!?? :shades:
So plug in some Accord #'s ( projections) and do a compare/contrast.
link title
So according to this site, I tend to get 24% better mpg. So I would PROJECT 31 mpg for the Accord/100000=3226 gals@4.04=$13,032.
Put another way, the Civic would be projected to give 22,572 more miles (3226 gal-2632 gal = 594 gals *38 mpg=) As anyone can see, those are a LOT of commute miles.
IS cruise control included in that price?
answer will be appreciated
i am currently looking for exactly what you bought, and that price ($16,350) is EXACTLY what I want to pay...
Ya know, I couldn't even TEST DRIVE a hybrid if i wanted to. Zero inventory on Civic hybrids anywhere in Boston area. If you want a hybrid (i didn't) you order it and PAY for it!
Customers are starting to realize this now when they have to take their third choice of color etc.
I am not enjoying this situation.
But we are actually very happy with the Beige. Glad we got this over the Grey.
The dealer had very little LX models in stock, and they didn't even order any DX models at all. I was prepared to buy a DX and have them put A/C in it, but there are no DX models anywhere in the area.
My next move - next year, is to trade in the V6 mini-van for a Honda Fit. Hope I can pull it off.
They don't even come with a radio!
I know a lot of stores in our area can count their Civic inventories on their fingers and it's not getting any better.
Fit's on the other hand, we have 43 available now through then end of July. And they're pre-selling quickly too.
Zero hassles or pressure. It does seem the price has gone up $500 or so since a few months ago but one dealer wanted MORE then MSRP.
I got the color I wanted. They seemed to have many in stock.
For anyone in this area, El Cerrito and Berkeley seemed to be the most aggressive price wise. Oakland Honda was also aggressive but did the whole slimy car dealer thing.
Can anyone tell the best price that I can get on HONDA CIVIC 2008 LX? No extra options. Just the standard things.
Selling price $16,857.00
Doc Fee 399.50
Title Fee 28.50
Sales Tax 1,337.38
$18,622.38 out the door
So what's the consensus? Is this as good as I can hope to do or should I hold off?
But, a 399,50 DocFee???
WOW!!
2008 Honda Civic LX by optimusprime11
Jun 15, 2008 (8:26 pm)
Paid 17000 OTD. Manual trans. Paid Cash Sweet deal. Apparently not many people get stick anymore, or so the dealer says."
This is exactly the car I'm looking for; where did you find 17K OTD? Not possible in a state with sales tax like Nevada has, but wherever it was that is one tremendous price.
Hitting rock wall resistance across the board at all dealers trying to get the price any lower. Looks like $18.6K will be my OTD price. Thanks isellhondas for your feedback!
I'm not trying to throw a wet blanket on anyone.
The supply situation is downright depressing and getting worse.
Between those two stores they show a total of 12 LX 4 door Civics with automatics in stock.
Pretty slim pickings!
Thanks
GI
Good thing you went in when you did!
for 17.9k OTD in BOSTON, MA ?
And also can anyone tell me what is the standard warranty for HONDA CIVIC LX -2008 model.
http://www.toyoland.com/news/?p=153
No wonder the Civics are in short supply these days.
Honda ex sedan auto no-nav
quotes:
17,834.37 - car
349.00 - doc
278.00 DMV fees
636.00 - destination
1108.00 - 6% sales tax
20,205.37 OTD
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They only have beige or blue....
$17834.37 base price of Civic EX
+$635.00 Destination charge
+$349.00 dealer doc fee (wow - MN is only $50.00)
=$18818.37 plus TT&L.
Awesome, just $100.00 over our invoice (in the twin cities we have a $200.00 co-op advertising fee added to each invoice at the factory).
Is this figure available on order-outs? If so, I would take advantage of it as I don't see Honda ramping up production any time soon.
We did just order 2009's yesterday. We get 16 of them for late August/early September.
Have qualified for the special APR financing and are waiting for lease quotes. We will see what those look like.
Any thoughts?
Thanks,,,, Sammy
16899 for car automatic transmission
1340 taxes
45 doc fee
12.50 nys tire fee
60 registration fee
10 inspection fee
837 for alarm, wheel locks, and door guards
-900 for my 1996 honda prelude. body was shot. transmission leaking but engine only had 76000 original miles
18304 after everything was said and done
p.s. honda in long island
Upstate NY - selling at MSRP. No Civics to be found. One dealer was taking orders w/a $200 refundable deposit and a two week wait.
Downstate NY - $18335
Boston area: 16985 + 284 doc fees
Boston area: 17485 + 203 doc fees (only 2 Civic LXs left as this price). All new quotes will be at MSRP
MA: has a few in stock but would not quote over the internet due to availability issues.
NJ: 16995 + 541.50 doc/dmv/tire fees
NJ: 16985+199 doc fees
VA/DC area: 16834+ appearance pkg ($995) + processing fees
Flying to NJ next weekend to pick up the car. Seems like Civic prices are going up as fast as gas prices... Get 'um while you can.
Wyler in Florence..
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Very very happy with the car. I had a 97 Civic and it's worlds apart. I also have an E46 M3 'vert and I wasn't nearly as disappointed in the ride as I thought I would be (it's going to be the wife's commuter).
2.9% financing is a steal too. Why pay cash when it's practically free money? No brainer all around.