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Kia Sedona (2005 and Earlier)

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  • 99windstar - Thank God (and Kia) your family is OK. One tough car! BTW - traded in a 99windstar on our first Sedona....
    I'd also like to see some pics!!

    Steve: Yes, they made me a great trade-in deal, fixed the van, and it has now been sold to some unsuspecting buyer. I'm sure they will be OK with it, though. Mechanically, it was still perfect and a hell of a runner.
  • grandtotalgrandtotal Posts: 1,207
    probably toast? Smile

    Glad that nobody was injured.
  • I plan to tow a covered Uhaul trailer and maybe my Toyota Echo. I installed a 3500 lb. hitch and the service manager at the dealership is telling me I need an auxiliary trans cooler. The van comes with one, but he says it is not enough. Some guys are telling me not to add it as it will keep the fluid too cool, and some say it won't do any harm when not towing. Anyone here ever put one in their Sedona? Any advice? Thanks
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    Most folks seem to think the Sedona's mechanicals are solidly built, and it is an excellent tow vehicle - better than most minivans in this respect. My impression is a 3500 pound load will be well within your Sedona's limits.

    Would the lifespan of your Sedona be extended if you installed an auxiliary transmission cooler? I have no idea.
  • I plan to tow a covered Uhaul trailer and maybe my Toyota Echo. I installed a 3500 lb. hitch and the service manager at the dealership is telling me I need an auxiliary trans cooler. The van comes with one, but he says it is not enough. Some guys are telling me not to add it as it will keep the fluid too cool, and some say it won't do any harm when not towing. Anyone here ever put one in their Sedona? Any advice? Thanks
  • boredbored Posts: 300
    Not big news, but i'd just like to point out that the American Sedona just got it's second refresh, in its now 3rd year of production.

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    There is a new grille, wheels, and I believe some interior enhancements, although I can't see any.
  • Last year towed a 3000lb poptop manhy hundreds of miles thru the Oklahoma summer. This year, towed a 3700lb boat to the lake many times. Also, every other weekend towed a 5x10 flatbed trailer with 2 ATV's, generator, spare tires, tools, gas cans, water jugs, etc to races all over the 4-state area (my son races off-road).
    I tow at no more than 65 and turn off the OD in hilly areas.
    No problems noted. Also please note the following from the KIA (UK) site. And this is with a 2.5l V-6.

    Max towing weight (kg):
      Trailer with brakes 2,000
      Trailer without brakes 570
      Max ball weight 80
      Max permissible weight (kg) 2,665

    I'm guessing that US specs are lower probably due to legal considerations.
  • Since you don't mention cooler in your text, is it safe to assume you did not install a secondary unit??? Thanks
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    not sure what your point is. It's not uncommon at all for vehicles to undergo minor changes from one model year to the next.
  • boredbored Posts: 300
    I wasn't trying to make a point, but consider this... you can now easily tell what the model year of every Sedona is, and you really don't have to think about it! :-)

    I see not much is going on here. I guess no news is good news, huh?

    My mother's Sportage is still doing fine. 53,000 miles and not a bit of trouble.
  • Hey, a manufacturer has to keep things fresh every year, so a change of colors here, reshape something there, and you've got great new selling points for the customer that has to have the latest model...even if the core vehicle is the same. Also, it gives them something to keep their salesforce on their toes...something I think Kia needs to work on, after my experience.
  • I have to make a correction. After visiting the crash site with my son to retrieve a few missing items, it turns out that the embankment wasn't 50 ft. More like 20 - 25 ft. Still pretty impressive IMO - but I wanted to set the record straight.

    Meanwhile, still waiting to hear from insurance, but I have a few quotes on a replacement. Both are new '03 Sedona EXs. Prices are out-the-door inclusive of all fees, taxes, incentives, etc.

    1st quote:
    - Anti lock brakes
    - Leather
    - Sunroof
    - Rear Spoiler
    - Tow Hitch
    $22,338.71

    2nd quote:
    - Rear Spoiler
    - Tow Hitch
    $21,146.60

    What do you guys think?
  • grandtotalgrandtotal Posts: 1,207
    Why buy a 2003 at all? Why not go for a 2004?
  • That's a good question. For one thing, there are very few around here. In fact, just 1 within a 60 mile radius. It's light green. My wife looked at the color and said "Yuck!" She also doesn't like the new grill (but I do.) Also, the rebate is $1,000 less on the '04s.
  • navyairnavyair Posts: 202
    Recommend you jump on line and check prices. You can then use those quotes with local dealer or purchase elsewhere if you like.

    I disregarded the dealers who responded with "call me". About 50% responded that way, the others usually would give a quote. Some high, some low...make sure you ask for an out the door quote, as some lowballers try to make it up in fees.

    (One guy in Hampton, VA actually gave me an MSRP quote on a demonstration model. Guess he thought I fell off the turnip truck that morning).

    Does that price include the owner loyalty bonus? If so, seems to be a bit stiff on an 03 model.
  • navyair,

    I guess great minds do think alike! The 2 quotes I have are internet quotes - requested them from 5 dealers Monday. Only 2 have responded so far. The quotes are for drive out cash prices supposedly including ALL rebates. Yeah, they look a little high to me, too. But after all, they're just starting places...
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    it's easier to tell you how good those prices are if you tell us how much tax is included in there. E.g. Michigan sales tax is 6% but other states are higher, some lower.

    If you plan to keep the van for the long term, I like the lower initial price of 'last year's model' (the 2003). Bigger rebate and larger discounts. 5-6 years from now, a single model year won't make much difference in the depreciation the van has incurred.

    Also try carsdirect.com.
  • Sales tax in these parts is 6%. Title fee is $18. The lesser of the 2 quotes ($21,146.60) also provided an msrp of $24,020 and a "starting price" of $18,932. So...

    $18,932 plus rebates of $3,000 = 21,932
    Add 6% tax on that: $1135.92 = $20,067.92
    Add title fee of $18 = $20,085.92

    $21,146.60 - 20,085.92 = $1060.68 which makes it look like they have some very high "documentation fee" or something added in there. But I thought maybe the $18,932 didn't include the destination charges. Who knows?

    That van doesn't really have all the options I want anyway. Wife likes it 'cuz it's the cheapest. I'm also working with a local dealer on a loaded model - but I don't have a quote on it yet.

    It'll all work out. Somehow.
  • kwonc71kwonc71 Posts: 245
    About 2 weeks ago, bought brand new 2003 LX Sedona for $16,788 (after $1000 loyalty rebate) with roof rack and ABS brake. I currently own 1988 Acura Integra and 2000 Hyundai Sonata too. I had 1998 Kia Sephia that broke down many many times. However, I am very happy with my Hyundai. Since Hyundai bought Kia, I decide to give one more chance to Kia. I already have a minor problems. I hear abnormal wind noise from driver's side window. Sounds like rubber and glass not quite sealed tight. After 500 miles brake started make weired noise like "GIK" when it comes to complete stop. Other than that everything works good so far. I will have to take car in for those matters soon, and keep post anything new.
  • pwierpwier Posts: 11
    10/28/03, we picked up our 2003 Kia Sedona EX from the dealer (very happy). 10/30/03, the engine light comes on, and it's been back at the dealer since (Not very happy). Hopefully today I will get a diagnosis, it seems to be a fuel vapor sensor. Yeah I know this could happen to any car, but this just sucks really bad. I hope this isn't the start of what my future Kia ownership is going to be.
  • pwierpwier Posts: 11
    So the Purge Control Valve was defective. I will keep my fingers crossed that nothing else happens. I'm kicking myself for declining the extended warranty bumper to bumper option to 10/100000. AAA offers an extended plan for Kia's which I will now look into.
  • I had a 2000 Sephia LS and loved it so much I bought the 2003 Sedona EX. the MAIN reason I turned the Sephia in was that I had bought it early in 2000. Kia came out with the 10/100000 sometime in the summer that year and I was stuck with 3/36000. The Sephia had a few minor glitches such as 1999 brake rotors that had to be replaced, but NEVER once during my warrantee did I have to spend one dime. We also bought, and still have a 2000 Sportage with its share of troubles, and STILL never one dime. Seems like your repair was emissions related and should have been at no charge....
  • pwierpwier Posts: 11
    Yeah, everything was covered under the Kia Warranty. What I did, actually earlier today, was purchase an extended warranty to extend my bumper to bumper to 10year 100,000 mile. So now the entire van is covered for 10/100K.

    I'm just bummed that the van needed to be repaired two days after I took delivery. Oh well, it's fixed and hopefully it won't happen again.
  • Does anyone know if the Flip Tray is a standard feature in the 2002 Sedona LX? I was told no, but I thought it was.
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    I'm not 100% sure, but I thought the folding table between the front 2 seats ('flip tray') was standard on all U.S.-market Sedonas.
  • I think the flip tray was an option on the EX, but was not available on the LX (at least, not for 02).
  • pwierpwier Posts: 11
    First, what is the correct grade of oil to use in the Sedona, it's not listed anywhere( I'm thinking 10-30), and has anyone used synthetic (Mobile 1).

    Another question, has anyone had a roof mounted DVD system installed. Not sure of the mounting process, but with the powered sunroof, how is this done. I think video headrests are the way to go. Please advise.
  • smulveysmulvey Posts: 139
    i have 32,000 miles on my sedona and have been using CAstrol Syntec and Mobil 1 Synthetic oil.
    Both are available in a broad range grade that covers low and high tempoerature operations.

    Sytec - 50 50 W

    Mobil1 - 15 - 50 W
  • There were only about 5 options on the 2002 EX. (moonroof, two tone, leather, ABS, spoiler) The flip tray was standard on the EX, and I'd be surprised if the flip tray was not standard on the LX - I can't see anything in the helpful links articles mentioned to the left to suggest that the cupholder count is four shorter on a standard LX. Although, I didn't read anything therein to suggest they aren't missing. ;)

    I agree that the headrest LCD option is probably best. You might take a look at mcminone.com for pricing. OTOH, the flip tray works fine as a platform to place the portable DVD player. ;)
  • I see a number of comments regarding the difficulty in removing the rear seats. I have had a 2003 for two months. Initially, removal was what I would call awkward. This weekend it took me 10 minutes to remove one and I gave up after twenty minutes on the other. I think it must be a lubrication problem where the latches aren't moving correctly. Anyone else not been able to remove a seat at all? Other than that...we've been very happy with our first van.

    Dan
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