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THANKS, Jax
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The new Santa Fe in Korea (2007 model in the USA & Canada) and Kia Optima (the Korean brand is Kia Lotze) have a PTTR (Pull To The Right) symptom, according to the Korean national broadcasting company (KBS).
You don't need to understand Korean at all. Just have a look at the video clip. It's horrible.
Hyundai Korea has not yet found the reason and solution.
Some customers got wheel alignment and adjusted tire pressure. Still they have PTTR.
PTTR was also reported on the Honad CR-V forum of Edumunds.com
KBS news script in Korean
If you brake, the grinding stops. It will also stop when you turn but start again as soon as you straighten out the steering wheel.
It has been doing it for about two months now and after new tires, an alignment and an oil change, it still does it. It is the worst and most noticeable when I am in bad traffic and don't get above 20 mph.
I have a 2004 4-cyl Santa Fe with 37,000 miles on it. I even had a good friend of mine that I consider a "car expert" look at it and he has no idea (He sent me here!)
Am looking for some guidance before I take it to the dealer. . . anyone know what this is or if it is covered under warranty? I'd really appreciate it.
Other than that, I love my Santa Fe and do not have ANY complaints. )
10 YEAR 100,000 MILES
POWERTRAIN PROTECTION Covers most engine & transaxle components.
Covers repair or replacement of powertrain components (i.e. selected Engine and Transmission/Transaxle components), originally manufactured or installed by Hyundai that are defective in material or factory workmanship, under normal use and maintenance. Coverage applies to Original Owner only effective with 2004 Model Year and newer model year vehicles. On 1999-2003 Model Years, coverage applies to Original Owner and immediate family members (i.e. wife, husband, daughter, son, stepdaughter, stepson).
Second and/or subsequent owners have powertrain components coverage under the 5 year / 60,000 mile New Vehicle Limited Warranty. Excludes coverage for vehicles in commercial use (i.e. taxi, route delivery, delivery service, rental, etc.).
5 YEAR 60,000 MILES
BUMPER-TO-BUMPER Covers nearly every new vehicle component
Covers repair or replacement of any component manufactured or originally installed by Hyundai that is defective in material or factory workmanship, under normal use and maintenance.
Following components covered for time and mileage limits indicated:
- Radio And Sound Systems (i.e. radio, cassette tape drive mechanism, and compact disc player): 3 years / 36,000 miles
- Paint: 3 years/ 36,000 miles
- Battery: 3 years / unlimited miles (100% covered 2 years / unlimited miles; after 2 years and within 3 years, 25% cost of battery and 100% labor cost covered)
- Air Conditioner Refrigerant Charge: 1 year / unlimited miles
- Adjustments: 1 year / 12,000 miles
- Wear Items: 1 year / 12,000 miles (e.g. belts, brake pads & linings, clutch linings, filters, wiper blades, bulbs, fuses
8 YEAR 80,000 MILES
FEDERAL EMISSION AND PERFORMANCE WARRANTY
Covers repair or replacement of the following original Hyundai major emissions control components that cause the vehicle to fail to conform to an applicable EPA approved Inspection/Maintenance Program:
1) Catalytic Converter
2) Engine Control Module
3) Onboard Emissions Diagnostic Device (OBDII)
Other EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) emissions warranty parts are covered under the 5 years / 60,000 mile New Vehicle Limited Warranty
Not to be nit-picky, but the warranty is 100,000 miles, not 1,000,000 miles.
Also, the emissions warranty mentioned previously is the federally mandated warranty that all manufacturers must adhere to. Beyond that, you are at the mercy (or kindness) of the dealership's service dept. Work with them or go to a different dealer, you might just end up pleasantly surprised.
http://www.epa.gov/otag/consumer/warr94fs.txt
So my car is only going on it's 3rd year with 49,000 miles; just off warranty. Again, a scam, an advertising ploy. Buyer beware. :lemon: For some reason the link don't work, you have to type it in manualy.
Not really, you just unfortunately have fallen into an area that no manufacturer, not Hyundai, Toyota, Honda, GM, Ford, etc, is legally bound to warranty. I would hazard a guess that if you look at the warranty pages of just about any other make, you will find the exact same warranty language regarding emissions-related parts.
Try this link for the EPA page:
EPA emissions warranty post-1994
By the way, what part or valve needs replaced? If you can't get the dealer to come down in price or comp you on it, why not go to another independent garage for an estimate since we know it is not a warranty issue.
As an addendum to all this, here is Toyota's warranty from their website. Sounds pretty similar (except for the mileage/years covered) to Hyundai's, doesn't it? Is this one a scam also?
Basic Coverage: 36 months/36,000 miles (all components other than normal wear and maintenance items).
Powertrain Coverage: 60 months/60,000 miles (engine, transmission/transaxle, front-wheel drive, rear-wheel drive, seatbelts and air bags).
Rust-Through Coverage: 60 months/unlimited miles (corrosion perforation of sheet metal).
Federal Emissions Coverage: Components under the federal emission defect warranty are covered for 36 months/36,000 miles and specified major emission control components are covered for 8 years/80,000 miles. Specified major emission control components under emission performance warranty are also covered for 8 years/80,000 miles. In addition, emission performance warranty is applicable for 24 months/24,000 miles in states and local jurisdictions that require a periodic EPA-approved inspection and maintenance program.
California Emission Control Coverage: In California and any other state that adopts California emission warranty provisions, performance warranty and defect warranty coverage is applicable for 36 months/50,000 miles, and specific control devices are covered for 7 years/70,000 miles.
Do you have any chain auto parts stores around? AutoZone and Advance Auto have scanning tools that will pull those codes and often do it for free. (They hope you'll buy the needed parts from them!) It could save you a few dollars anyway.
It kind of scares me to read others stories. It would be a nightmare to have to wait weeks to get a repair done.
We had a few break in problems the first 10k and they are always disappointing but they were fixed.
My goal was to get to 100k +++ are there any success stories out there with their SF? We had the SF with 2.7l AWD.
After bringing car in for first oil change (3000 miles) I just noticed that about 25% of the time when I am applying the brakes, the steering wheel vibrates. Not a huge amount, but I can feel it. Definitely never did this before. Is this a normal thing or should I have them take a look at the rotors?
What is up with this? Could this be soemthign that happened when they washed the car, or when they installed the roof rails? When we took car for first test drive I saw the big oafish sales guy standing on rear bumper screwing in the mast antenna. I wonder if he scraped it up during that time.
Do I have any recourse to have dealership take car eof this, or will they just blow it off and say I must have done it? Any one else have experience with this kind of thing?
THANKS!
We finally figured out yesterday what the problem was.
I was in a car accident on Saturday, caused by me skidding out on wet pavement -Upon taking to our car shop (not a dealership), it was discovered that the "splash guard" that is supposed to keep the brakes dry had been put on at an angle instead of straight. When I drove on Saturday, (the first time it has rained in months), water got on the brakes, causing a "glaze" to form - So when I put my foot on the brakes, it had no traction, so I skidded out and hit two cars in front of me.
The brakes have been replaced, the splash guard put on straight and the noise is gone. I also have hundreds of dollars of damage to my car and a $500 deductible to pay to get it fixed. And I don't even know how much it will cost to get the other cars fixed (covered by insurance).
Not a happy camper.
If you're experiencing anything close to the same problem - get your Santa Fe looked at! Don't wait.
Any advice on how to handle with insurance company? Or with Hyundai? Do I have any grounds to at least get Hyundai to cover my deductible? Or is it not even worth pursuing?
Thanks for any advice - this is not only the first car I've ever owned (had my name on), this is also my first accident.
I KNOW how the law works, and I KNOW that if I rear-end someone else, fault will be assigned to me. That's not what I was asking. My insurance has even acknowledged that it was probably not something I could have prevented. But thanks again for no help.
Don't bother replying, I won't be back.
tidester, host
1. allowing more space between vehicles.
2. allowed for the greasy conditions that are evident on roads during the first rain after a long dry spell and...
3. adjusted your speed accordingly.
4. possibly had not been talking on your cell or your passenger.
5. know your how your vehicle reacts during a panic
situation and use the benefits of ABS by being able to simply steer out of trouble .
I AM replying and if you do happen to check back...too bad about your accident, don't blame the car BYE!!
tidester, host
This is the wrost car I have ever owned. I had the transmission replaced twice after the first month off the lot!! :mad:
If anyone has found a solution to the rear window issue, please post.
Thanks