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It doesn't seem to do it playing a CD or MP3's. I have no idea what is causing the problem. I will be glad to pass along any information I find out.
My check engine light kept coming on and EVERY TIME the dealer said everything checked out. So off I went. Then the warranty expired .. and all hell broke loose!
Now My 2001 SF has almost 150,000 miles on it. Impressive .. not really. At 121,000 the engine lost compression and needed to be replaced. My warranty was extended to 120kmi for the horse power issue. So ONE THOUSAND miles over warranty ..Hyundai said "nothing we can do since the warranty is up" I was speechless but at the same time not really surprised. So my advice, while you have your warranty .. keep all your paperwork and make them keep looking at the same problem until they fix it!! :sick:
"Sorry there is nothing we can do since you're warranty has expired" You can imagine what my reply was %&#@!%
Bottom line is they don't care .. they got your money.
But don't give up!!
For example (for the owner of the vehicle) did you always or the majority of the time have your vehicle serviced at their facility?
You probably have to find and speak with someone in the position to help you with the matter; you know you're in trouble when your speaking with someone who's basically empowered to say "no".
Sometimes putting people in the position to help you is important. I can't say how that is done, but it starts with the initial rapport established when you first make contact with a representative of the company, in your case HP.
Perhaps some research and a different approach will get positive results.
You didn't happen to purchase the printer with a Credit Card (like AMEX) that automatically extends the warranty period by 1 year for these sorts of purchases did you? This won't work with a vehicle, but maybe with a computer printer.
Usually in the case of more expensive repairs such as cars, it depends on how many others have had similar problems. Usually goodwill repairs depend on how much damage is perceived against a company's reputation.
The only explanation I can think of is that the car is so tight that wind force from the front causes this. Has anyone else had this happen. I probably wouldn't have noticed until next Spring but it was unseasonably hot here last weekend and my kids wanted their windows down. Should I talk to the dealer?
Noticed in my FWD, that the steering wheel is a bit off scew. Either that or the slight pulling to the right is causing me to continually counteract act it by keeping pressure counter-clockwise on the wheel. Remember reading this on a few posts in the past. What was the remedy?
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Acoustics/Flow-induced_oscillations_of_a_Helmholtz_- resonator
tidester, "Volvo XC90 SUV" #930, 3 Jan 2003 9:19 pm
Did you happen to take yours in and have someone check it out? Were they able to come up with a solution to the problem? I'm also curious if discipleguy's fix helped you at all?
Does anyone else have any thoughts? Thanks for any and all help!!!
-dave
The skew problem and pulling to the right is generally an indication that your wheel alignment is off. A front end alignment should correct the problem.
Your Hyundai warranty covers adjustments for the 1 year. I recommend taking it in to your dealer and having it checked/adjusted under warranty.
Regards,
JCS
many thanks.
It is AWD. Thanks again!!!
When I turn the car on and put it in drive everything is fine for about 5 seconds. Then, I feel a vibration on the pedal and hear a sound that you dont want to hear when having just purchased a car! The sound then goes away and the car drives fine. Dealership was unable to help out. Is this familiar to anyone?
Also- The S.F came with the 5 year 60k warranty. What do I have to do to keep this warranty active? Thanks,
Steven
Confirm this with your dealer though. As long as you perform the required maintenance your warranty should remain intact. Again, confirm with your dealer. This will ensure you have your bases covered.
JCS
FM reception is also negatively affected by Multipath where radio signal (even from strong stations) arrives at radio via many paths (due to signal reflection off hill, mountains, bridges and tall buildings). The result is horrible FM sound in this situation. It makes FM radio unlistennable sometime especially if radio is left in Stereo and High Fidelity modes
So to reduce the noise affects, many newer OEM radios now are using some noise reduction techniques. Such things are:
1. Temporarily switch to Mono in presence of Strong Multipath Noise
2. Reduce High Frequency Audio (where scratchy noise mostly heard)
The drawback of the above techniques is the change of Audio perception (radio sound softer or "drop out" and have less fidelity). Older OEM and Aftermarket radios keep noisy audio constant regardless even if the bad signal condition occurs (Weak Signal or Multipath). So, it is the trade off between hearing high noise or softer sound (Low noise)
Lexus rafios first set this Low Noise trend in the 90's and now everyone is using it.
Back to your situation: it is likely the Multipath condition that makes radio switches back and forth between Low Noise and Hi-Fidelity modes. Cincinnati is notorious for this condition. This location is unique in the Midwest due to the hilly terrain and therefore signal reflections. This condition is most noticeable along the Ohio River near downtown area. This problem is very common in LA and San Francisco and other mountainous areas also. FM Multipath is similar to seeing ghost images on your TV Multipath in the old day where people used off-the-air antenna to receive TV programs. They had to play around with those antenna elements to reduce the ghost image.
jt
-thanks
aaron
tidester, host
"All 2007 Santa Fe AM/FM CD audio receivers are equipped with digital AM/FM tuners. . . When a weak signal condition is encountered, they will attempt to maintain good frequency response and low (static) noise by temporarily limiting the high frequency information . . . a temporary reduction of 12dB at 10 kHz for 1 second or more (the actualy duration depends on th length of the weak signal condition). . . This may sound like a temporary loss of 'highs', 'treble', or a stereo signal temporarily going mono. This condition is NORMAL. . ."
That's the basic info and all I felt like typing. Not sure I like this "feature". All other cars I've had have never done anything like this. "If it ain't broke . . ."
Thanks for the input all.
1. Turn rear wiper to 'on'
2. Turn front wiper to 'lo' (rear wiper will now be intermittent, but now front is not)
3. Turn front back to intermittent setting and rear should still be intermittent until you turn the front wiper off
I couldn't find anything in the owners manual regarding this, so I thought I'd pass it along.
Happy Driving!
Bought right around Thanksgiving. New 2007 3.3 SE. No other options.
We have put approx. 2500 miles on the car so far.
Today, wife was driving doing some last minute Christmas shopping and when she stopped in a parking lot, she was unable to shift the car out of drive/neutral into either reverse or park! Luckily, she did not have to back up so she drove the car to my place of work where I too could not get the car out of drive or neutral.
Seeing that the dealer was about 10 miles away, I told her to drive it right over there and I would phone ahead. She gets to the service dept and they find a problem with the tranny. They say it is not a real tranny problem but with some sort of switch under the console. Anyway, they tell us that the part is not in and that it won't be in until next thursday at the earliest.
O.K. so now what? We were supposed to leave and sled to grandma's house on Saturday which is 400 miles away. I ask them what are they going to do since this is my only car. Ahh, they have a loaner program provided by Hyundai but it does not cover a loaner car driven to another state. Grandma lives in another state BTW.
So I then say this is unacceptable! The freakin car is 4 weeks old and a switch in my tranny has already busted? What about that great new Hyundai quality?? Service manager then says the SF is O.K. to drive we keep the shifting lock depressed. So, they stuff a key into that little slot on my console and we can get the car through the gears.
I phone the Sales manager who BTW quit a couple of weeks ago. Get the new Sales manager on the phone and tell him the story and say I am not a happy camper. Told him we gave up our Accord and now within 4 weeks, I have a big problem. I ask him if this is what I can expect in the months to come. Of course he was all apologetic, but said they could do nothing about a loaner since we were traveling out of state.
He then tells me when we get back they will give us a loaner till the part comes in. I say why not just take the part from one of the 30 SF's you have on the lot and fix my car right now. He tells me that is a great idea, but all the service techs have gone home! This is like 3:30-4:00 o'clock! Hey, WTHell! I'm still at work and it ain't even Christmas eve. He should of called a tech back there to fix my car in my opinion.
Anyway, we are now driving around with a key stuck in my SF console, and will do so until we get back on Tuesday!
This is all pretty bogus. I took a chance on Hyundai after owning two Accords that had virtually no problems, and now within 4 weeks of owning this car, a part breaks on the tranny.
Ohh, and as others have indicated, I too am having problems with certain radio stations that seeminly loose some tone. The station is crystal clear and then becomes muddy like someone has turned the trebble way down. Then it will come back without notice! I will also have them look into this but I doubt they will fix that problem according to some of the posts in here.
Lastly, is anyone else having problems with your doors shutting properly? It seems like we have to slam the doors pretty hard to get them to close properly. Don't know if this is an adjustment, but it just seems like we have to put a lot of effort into shutting the doors.
Anyway, other than these problems the SF has been running O.K. I am suspicious about my gas mileage though. I've see numbers all over the place and this will be my first real gauge of the actual milage. After fillup tonight, my trip computer says my range is only 364 miles which is barely 18mpg while my trip computer is saying I am getting 23.4mpg! If true, that is almost a 30 percent variance! This is totally unacceptable! What use are the trip computers if they cannot be accurate to within plus or minus one mpg!
So we will see what develops, but I can say that at this point, I am not happy and Hyundai will be getting a detailed letter of my concerns. Not that is will matter, but they should know this will be my last Hyundai.
john
I know your pissed but hang in there. Your dealer let you down. These issues should have been addressed quickly and they dropped the ball. You did not make a mistake. The Santa is a good SUV but its all new. This is an electrical problem not a tranny issue. Bugs should be expected not poor service from the dealer. The dealers response to you is totally unacceptable.
Sorry you and your wife are going through this. Better Luck!
Have a Merry Christmas - Anthony/NY
Our last 3 Hondas all had major mechanical problems & we are taking them to Lemon court with our '06 Odyssey. Briefly, I will tell you our history: '00 Odyssey - 2 tranny replacements, '03 V6 Accord - trans failure, rear struts blown, front tie rod ends all around 40k. Lastly, our $35k p.o.s. Odyssey was repaired 5 times for the same defect.
We are looking at buying the '07 Santa Fe also. IMO it is built better than a Honda & the ride quality is wonderful compared to the rough & noisy Hondas.
Lastly, my old Honda service manager works at a Hyundai dealer now & says they are great cars. Hang in there -
a long time ago (4 decades now), i remember the volkswagen beetle was advertised on TV as being so well put together, that it would float.
and sure enough, and true to the ads on TV, i remember specifically as a tot, my grandparents hitting a stretch of river that had swept over a bridge on the road they were travelling in the northeast during a major downpour.
we literally sailed across the river for about 10 seconds to the other side. bless his soul, my grandfather could only see out of one eye, and his co-pilot- my grandmother didn't drive, but it was raining so hard, no one would have seen the washout in time.
ok, i'm sorry, now i'm in a nostalgic mood, i was in the area behind the back seat (remember the volks beetles had a "trunk in the front" and the engine in the rear. behind the rear seats was a (neat for a tike) storage area that i loved riding and hiding in.
ok, back to the doors, i remember how difficult it was closing the doors on that car of theirs. certainly it should not be so difficult... and i remember slaming them harder and harder in an attempt to get them to close, but it seems the harder i tried, the more difficult it was...
almost on back on track right?
then it dawned on me... the weather stripping on the vehicle was so thick, and the interior was seemingly so air-tight, that i was actually attempting to close the door on an almost air-tight compartment and trapping the air in the process and taking the interior to a higher pressure. not easy to do, right?
this is called "compression".
so I tried opening one of the side-view windows (they were triangular shaped) a tad and tried closing the door again. this time - no problem.
lesson learned: you need a means to allow the air in the automobile interior to escape as you are closing the door, otherwise you are attempting to pressurize the interior via compression to a higher pressure than outside the vehicle; the increase in pressure will tend to exert force on the door preventing it from closing properly.
this happens with other vehicles, specially when new... people complaining their doors don't close well. you are not alone.
try these things:
a). open a window slightly, or
b). slow down the rate at which you are trying to close the door, or
c). try to leave the air vent system off the RECIRCULATE position.
happy holidays. :shades:
BTW, quite recently when I went along with someone to help out with an Elantra purchase, I was beginning to open and shut all the doors (which has become a ritual for me since that Sonata purchase) when the salesman suddenly leaned his foot against a doorsill (?) while receiving a phonecall. I courteously waited for him to finish his call, but he stayed there quite persistently. So I backed off. Later on, I learned from the guy who bought that car that that side of the door didn't shut without a hard push. I guess there's another lesson learned...
I agree that they should have had such replacement parts in stock, particularly if it is with a part known to go bad on occasion. The good thing is that your car is perfectly usable with the shift lock depressed. It's more of an inconvenience, having to take the car back to the dealer for the control module replacement.
I have the 07 SF Limited AWD and have no problems closing my doors. They feel very solid and I like the way they close. You should try the doors out on the other Santa Fe's at the dealer to see if they feel the same or if yours need adjusting.
Finally, my trip computer is right on, giving me the same mileage as my calculated MPG. To really test out the accuracy of the mpg computer, you need to not reset it over 2 or 3 fillups and see how it's average compares to your manually calculated average.
At this point, I am extremely happy with my Hyundai. I have never been more satisfied with a new car purchase and will definitely consider a Hyundai for future purchases.
The above observation is the result one of the dynamic noise reduction techniques used in newer OEM radios that receives standdard Analog AM/FM broadcas today:
Dynamically cutting down on Trebble while the AM/FM signal is weak or noisy. Older radios (like the one in the old Santa Fe for example) did not have these options so they just play thru all distorted and crackled radio sound without reducing Trebble setting. This temporary cut back helps reducing noise in such situations. Try listen to a Lexus RX330 in AM mode sometime: the sound is always muffled in order to reducing noise at any cost.
So it is trade off between Low Noise vs. High Fidelity (but with lot crackles and pops.
In order to do away with trade offs, more expensive radios in VW, Cadillac, Lexus, M-B use FM Diversity. In these cases, there are actually more than one FM antennas for radio to work with. Cheaper FM Diversity system (used in Toyota, Lexus and Nissan) switches between antennas and find the best signal. More expensive systems (Mostly German OEM) are using two FM tuners to combined the different signals and make radio more sensitive. This is far superior than the typical non-Diversity or cheaper Diversity system.
But the ultimate performance has to go to the truely digital radio broadcast such as Satellite radios and lately HDRadio (Digital version of Analog AM/FM). With digital broadcast radio you either have perfect sound or no sound at all.
jnt
seems to me the treble reduction is unexpected and undesired by many listeners.
Just to add to the "others also have problems", I too am an example of the Toyota/Honda myth of realiability. I have a 2002 Sienna and it has been just a nightmare, a never ending list of problems. The brakes went at 40K miles, (Consumers Report says the brakes on the 2002 Sienna are "much worse than average"),the electrics (window up/down) regularly stop working (can't remember how many motors have been changed), the low tire pressure light keeps coming on, will stay on for an hour or so then go out, transmission sticks in 3rd gear and only repeated letting up on the gas finally "forces" it to go into 4th (I am a senior citizen so do not have a heavy foot) etc. etc. I could go on but I think you have the idea, Toyota's are living on borrowed time, soon people will wake up to the fact that their cars are a pos.
Hang in there, from everything I have read your Santa is a great vehicle. I plan to join the ranks of a Santa owner in the very near future (nest spring).
I must say that my initial post may have sounded to harsh, and really wasn't meant that way. I do believe the SF is a decent vehicle but at this point I probably will not be a repeat customer.
With that said, we drove the car to grandma's house some 450 miles away with a key jammed into the console.
Now, once on the road, I noticed that the ESC indicator was lit. So at first refuel, it should have reset with the ignition being shut off. Restarting made the light go out for about a minute and then it re-lit. O.K. fine, my honda had ESC and I knew the car would still operate O.K. even if the system was not working....but another PROBLEM!!
So, trying to nudge some more mileage out of the SF, I turned on the cruise control.....ahh, didn't/doesn't work! It did work a few weeks ago, but now it comes on and you cannot set it. Great, another PROBLEM. Remember, this car is only 4 weeks old and now I have 3 problems that go beyond simple things IMO.
Still, no problem with the trip. It would have been nice to have cruise, but we managed.
Anyway, off to the dealer today! They have the part in to fix the shifter and then I told him about the other stuff. Seems both systems use the same sensor and it appears that this sensor has gone bad. Yep, after 4 weeks it has gone bad. You also have to remember that I used to work in the computer industry and am well acquainted with failure rates of electrical components and this is to say the least terrible.
Maybe I am taking the brunt for all the other SF owners or I am being paid back for nearly 6 years of trouble free cars. But whatever it is, this stinks.
My only saving grace is that the dealership "offered" me a loaner car while mine spends the night.
Look, I'm an easy going guy and can usually go with the flow. I rarely make a fuss because I know crap happens and a car is a complex piece of machinery, buttttt we all would like to feel that we get what was advertised. So far, 4 weeks into my purchase, I have 3 known problems and this does not include the door issue or the fading radio which BTW I can live with.
Ohh, and I again asked when will the nose protectors be out. They simply do not know. Meanwhile I tell them that my car already has a chip in the paint on the hood! This is exactly what I wanted to avoid. The bras are worthless unless because sand and dirt get under the material and end up scratching the paint. So is is too much to ask what when a product is released that these small add on items coming from the dealer can also be made available? It's not like they did not know about the new model year and it is not like they did not have one for the 06 model. So what is so hard about having the product available when the model is released?
Anyway, BACK to the dealer tomorrow to hopefully pick up my car. Warranty is O.K. so far, but that does not take into account the amount of time we need to go to and from the dealership.
So it looks like I will be testing out the Hyundai warranty real good over the next few years because it looks like this SF is going to troublesome to say the least.
jg
Anyway, they tell me the part "may" be in on Friday, but no guarantee!
When I get the low down on exactly what was replaced, I'll post the information.
So, after 4 weeks of ownership, my new SF is still not fixed and will spend its second night at the dealership.
This is a first for me after almost 40 years of driving. This is the first car I've ever had to leave overnight, and now this one is on its second night!
jg
w.r.t. the part / switch / module your vehicle needs. can't they over-night the thing? we live in the world of overnight package delivery.
My 2007 Limited AWD 3.3 does and the ESC has engaged several times ( Yep, I push it kind of hard driving through the mountain roads in PA ) and it has not made a beeping sound.