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Again, I want to see what happens in October, and whether any demand for Sequoias (given its unusual situation with no 2009 model) improves, or if it starts to decline again back towards the 4Runner.
I know this is not a very good price. but can someone please suggest what is the best price I get get for this model?
thanks,
A 2wd limited no options listed for 45,624 and a 4 wd drive limited no options listed for 48,986 in your zip code on over stock .com cars
If a buyer's market gets you $3000 off sticker, what do you call the market where people were getting $10,000 off sticker?
I say wait.
I remember back when this vehicle came out in 2001 they were selling almost at sticker so 3000 off sticker is a good deal .
I think you are right about waiting as some incentives maybe offered on the 2010 Sequoia in this quarter. If you are waiting for 10,000 off sticker it will never happen.
You are right , there are not too many around. The nearest I came was a loaded 08 with 15K miles for $45K. I walked from that beacuse I thought there should be better deals out there. Now I cant find anything.
Was thinking about buying a SR5 with leather, Nav and DVD. Ity's pretty much the same as a limited except no auto 3rd row or autorear door, right? I could live without that. I would pay aroung $38 to $40K for something like that. Are my numbers right or am I wishful thinking?
Any help appreciated. Thanks
Nissan/Infiniti is offering big incentives on the Armada and QX56 now. Perhaps Toyota will do the same.
HID headlights, superior navi, $2000 manufacturer to dealer incentive ... the Acura MDX is looking better and better
Wake up Toyota!!
Is this a good deal? or should i counter? vehicle not onlot - would be ordered
Gulf coast zip 39530 - dealership 75miles away responded from an edmonds search.
Offered at invoice - breakdown below:
Mfg Base Price: $42,316.00
Total Factory Installed Options: $1,245.00
Total Locally Installed Options: $1,041.47
Delivery/Processing/Handling: $950.00
T.M.F.: $995.00
Base Vehicle Holdback: $972.00
PIO Holdback: $100.00
Dealer Added Options: $0.00
1% Financial Reserve MSRP: $486.00
Totals: $48,105.47
Is this a good deal? or should i counter? vehicle not onlot - would be ordered
Gulf coast zip 39530 - dealership 75miles away responded from an edmonds search.
Offered at invoice - breakdown below:
Mfg Base Price: $42,316.00
Total Factory Installed Options: $1,245.00
Total Locally Installed Options: $1,041.47
Delivery/Processing/Handling: $950.00
T.M.F.: $995.00
Base Vehicle Holdback: $972.00
PIO Holdback: $100.00
Dealer Added Options: $0.00
1% Financial Reserve MSRP: $486.00
Totals: $48,105.47
Are they kidding???? For a toyota?? not that it is not a good car, but really?? SO...... I started looking at other more expensive cars on the advice of a friend b/c he told me the residual values are higher on luxury vehicles so the leases are cheaper. He was right. I found a new 2010 Mercedes GL450, list $67,550 (p1 package,nav, dvd ) and my out the door price (6500k down includes tax and etc) is - wait for it...... $759/month! I also shopped this deal around so it wasn't an abberation, most dealers here were in the same ballpark. So, the moral of this story is sometime the more expensive car will give you a cheaper lease price!!
And yeah, I am going with the Mercedes!!!!
Its time for some incentives from toyota on the Sequoia.
Checkout the Blutec if you do decide MB.
Still mulling the options - So far MB is offering $749/month (incld tax) for GL450 with P1 pkg, running boards and DVD sys. Pretty good deal - MB drives way better than the Toyota too - more like a car - plus, I think it looks nicer.
btw, where are you driving 14 hours?? My kids would kill each other (or me!) - they can't do more than 2 hours (and that is with the DVD!!_
I have the $58905 Sequoia Platinum at 760/mo+tax with 6500 drive off for a 4/48 lease.
I'm really having a hard time deciding between the two. Although I added several options to the GL, the Sequoia's standard options blow the GL away - it has everything. The GL though has more exterior appeal and a little more wow-factor.
Though the Sequoia is bigger, not sure if that's a plus or not. It would be great to have the Sequoia on long trips, but I think the GL would be better for everyday driving.
The Sequoia also is a slight plus because it has a higher tow rating and I have to pull a 6000 pnd boat.
Both get crappy gas mileage.
I just don't know.
Have you looked at the MB on a 48Mo lease? At least they give a 48Mo warranty to match it.
Still in my old car b/c I don't know what to do - At least it won't catch fire
btw, Sequoia is a lot of money for what you get - It is not quite "lux" and the price you quoted (bjordan1) is the same lease for a car that costs $12k less! Not an attractive lease by toyota - I'm in same boat, but now with this fire thing......
The Sequoia is GREAT for everyday driving (as long as you have the sonar/navigation system for backup camera/powerfolding mirrors-amazing turning radius is really helpful too). I use it for groceries, errands, et. most of the time and am pleasantly surprised at how easy it is to drive. I love mine... (2010 Plat)
Either way, go with your initial instinct (it's almost always right) and you'll be happy.....
That being said this is the final year for the Q and they are being priced as such. I have gone back and forth, as my negotiated price on a Plat 4x4 is about $4,500 more than a comparable Q can be had for. Less when you factor in 0 for 36. Still, very, very tempting. I just like the Sequioa..the looks, the engine, access to third row.
I was just happy they threw me the bone of 0 for 36, which is actually worth $4,000-$5,000.
I never was interested in the QX56 although it is a good choice.
I just sold my 2001 Sequoia and it was a trouble free vehicle for 98,000 miles which is why I never considered any other SUV. The 2010 Sequoia in my opinion is the best full size SUV on the market today.
I still think Toyota will have to offer competive incentives and or finiancing to compete with Nissian, ford and Gm in this current market.
I am surprised that people feel 0% for 36 months is not a good deal. Granted, you have steep payments, but it does save you about $5,000 if you financed $50,000 at 5% for 36 months.
If you are looking for $2,000+ cash back you may have to wait until Summer 2010.
(2) I am also not surprised that this was their only incentive. Not sure if folks looked at the October #s, but in contrast to the prior months numbers I posted, Sequoia sales were way up. [4Runner though is really in bad shape.] This may be just a sales blip up given the pent-up demand I queried about earlier. Who knows. But, when I saw those sales numbers, I was not surprised at all to learn that this was the only incentive. Based on those numbers, I am sure Toyota is waiting and seeing if demand continues or if it falls before they offer any more. I will post sales numbers in a follow-up post.
(3) Remember, this is a month by month thing on these incentives. Just like the CEO there at Toyota, you need to watch these monthly numbers. If you thought we were at the verge of a V-shaped recovery, that jobs are coming back, and that gas was getting cheaper, then you should run out and buy one NOW before this incentive ends, as if November's numbers on this big SUV are say even higher, then this incentive could easily end! But, surely you know I write that tongue-in-cheek, as if anything the situation is the opposite and percentage demand for this vehicle could more likely subside on the yearly comparisons as we get into Winter and the economy worsens before it gets better. So, I will still be watching numbers and waiting. I am in no rush. In fact, the long wait has taken some of the excitement away, which has actually been a good thing, as now we are even thinking we can make our current vehicle go another year. Not sure yet. That would be great fiancically for us to avoid the immediate depreciation hit, but would be terrible for Toyota if lots of other consumers do the same and tighten the belt instead of shelling out for this vehicle. But if that happens, then the incentives I am looking for may just well materialize.
(4) I have owned one Ford when I was young, and pretty much all Japanese since then. The high price to me of this vehicle has actually for the first time got me exploring not only the Q, but now the American brands, including Ford again. I can't believe it, but it really is true. Nothing wrong or bad with that of course, but never thought it would happen after being raised by my engineer Dad who would only buy Toyotas and Hondas and apparently brain-washed me. But, if I had to act now, then I guess we would buy nothing and just wait several more months. That's the plan for now. The 0% is not bad, but not what moves me to act this month.
TOYOTA RETAIL SALES
(INCLUDES FLEET & HAWAII)
October, 2009
----- CURRENT MONTH ----- -- CALENDAR YEAR TO DATE --
DSR % DSR %
2009 2008 CHG 2009 2008 CHG
YARIS 4,384 4,871 -13.2 55,169 93,366 -40.9
COROLLA 25,717 27,386 -9.4 240,755 307,071 -21.6
CAMRY 30,136 30,556 -4.9 294,493 386,118 -23.7
VENZA 5,035 0 N/A 44,451 0 N/A
AVALON 2,539 3,543 -30.9 22,417 37,852 -40.8
PRIUS 13,496 11,804 10.3 118,290 142,365 -16.9
SCION xA 0 0 N/A 3 39 -92.3
SCION xB 1,782 2,594 -33.8 22,313 41,265 -45.9
SCION tC 1,057 2,224 -54.2 16,085 37,904 -57.6
SCION xD 1,023 1,925 -48.8 12,709 25,294 -49.8
TOTAL TOYOTA DIV. PASS. CAR 85,169 84,904 -3.3 826,687 1,071,276 -22.8
ES 4,413 4,141 2.8 37,844 54,783 -30.9
HS 1,527 0 N/A 3,312 0 N/A
LS 804 1,502 -48.4 8,192 17,532 -53.3
SC 41 98 -59.7 636 1,787 -64.4
GS 494 819 -41.8 5,771 13,838 -58.3
IS 3,162 2,772 10.0 31,073 43,144 -28.0
TOTAL LEXUS PASS. CAR 10,441 9,332 7.9 86,828 131,084 -33.8
TOTAL TOYOTA PASS. CAR 95,610 94,236 -2.2 913,515 1,202,360 -24.0
SIENNA 8,249 8,003 -0.6 68,021 102,890 -33.9
RAV4 13,971 12,227 10.2 120,834 118,965 1.6
FJ CRUISER 849 1,657 -50.6 9,230 23,353 -60.5
4RUNNER 345 3,555 -90.6 13,472 40,861 -67.0
HIGHLANDER 5,979 7,032 -18.0 67,463 88,983 -24.2
LAND CRUISER 165 185 -14.0 1,912 3,388 -43.6
SEQUOIA 1,478 1,829 -22.1 13,230 26,421 -49.9
TOTAL SUV 22,787 26,485 -17.0 226,141 301,971 -25.1
4X2 TACOMA 4,144 5,202 -23.2 46,883 70,975 -33.9
4X4 TACOMA 4,777 4,799 -4.0 47,811 56,341 -15.1
TOTAL TACOMA 8,921 10,001 -14.0 94,694 127,316 -25.6
TUNDRA 7,537 6,425 13.1 64,136 121,451 -47.2
TOTAL PICKUP 16,458 16,426 -3.4 158,830 248,767 -36.2
TOTAL TOYOTA DIV. LT TRUCK 47,494 50,914 -10.0 452,992 653,628 -30.7
LX 404 567 -31.3 2,917 6,983 -58.2
GX 341 1,204 -72.7 5,524 14,036 -60.6
RX 8,316 5,180 54.8 73,641 68,399 7.7
TOTAL LEXUS LIGHT TRUCK 9,061 6,951 25.7 82,082 89,418 -8.2
TOTAL TOYOTA LIGHT TRUCK 56,555 57,865 -5.8 535,074 743,046 -28.0
TOTAL TOYOTA DIV. 132,663 135,818 -5.8 1,279,679 1,724,904 -25.8
TOTAL LEXUS 19,502 16,283 15.5 168,910 220,502 -23.4
TOTAL TOYOTA 152,165 152,101 -3.5 1,448,589 1,945,406 -25.5
MEMO:
DOM. COROLLA 25,615 20,530 20.3 210,022 219,320 -4.2
DOM. CAMRY 29,830 30,270 -5.0 285,069 379,270 -24.8
DOM. RAV4 4,959 0 N/A 36,114 0 N/A
DOM. HIGHLANDER 1,023 0 N/A 1,023 0 N/A
DOM. PICKUP 16,458 16,426 -3.4 158,830 248,765 -36.2
DOM. RX 5,286 4,356 17.0 48,898 50,389 -3.0
SELLING DAYS 28 27 257 257
The Japanese product is light years above anything made by ford.I own a infiniti I35 and just sold my Sequoia which had 98,000 miles on it. I have had zero problems with the two vehicles.
The ford product may be less expensive at the time of purchase but the repairs it will require will eat you alive.
4Runner may be way down because they are in the middle of introducing the 2010.
As far as the American trucks...I love the full size GM's. They just need to fire the engineer that designed the third row. I would have bought a Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade if it wasn't for that poor design.
I agree with the idea of the money saved from 0% but it also nice to have a vehicle that is trouble free which has never been the case for me with GM or ford. I buy new and then hang on to a vehicle for at least 8 years. I have yet to find an American made product that does not start falling apart after 4 to 5 years. I take care of the vehcles with the proper maintenance and the Japanese product just has been great as compared to ford or GM
The Tahoe/ Yukon is not a bad choice but the Sequoia does have the better design and it is a Toyota