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thanx for your reply. I'm in NJ, metro area. I didn't think it's was special either. I called him back this morning and said we weren't looking for an 09, a leftover 08, new. He say's there aren't any, none! I like your idea of the email account, gonna do that. I also asked if there were any incentives, he said there was a 1250 rebate, which he already factored in. Then he said there's a 07 with 19K miles, if we are interested. I told him doubtful. He said, talk things over and let him know. I highly doubt that I will be calling him back. Thanx for all your info, I really appreciate it.
The current quotes for Touring without PAX is in the $33K range ...
Any info would be helpful.
Thanks
$40,505
Invoice is
$36,677
there was a $1250 dealer incentive ...and i got the best quote i receive with this incentive was $34,327.
Now Honda has increased the incentive to $2250. And the delears are reducing the price by another $1k.
The current best quote i have received is $33,327
Below is pricing information for 2009 Honda Odysseys
Included in following invoices:
Dealer Ad fee (HDAG DC area) - $175
Destination and handling (Frieght) - $670
Invoice (minus) Holdback = X
LX- $24,660.27 - $527.10 = X
EX- $27,461.54 - $589.10 = X
EX-L- $30,804.99 - $663.10 = X
EX-L RES- $32,250.80 - $695.10 = X
EX-L RES & NAV- $34,238.79 - $739.10 = X
TOURING R&N- $37,446.70 -$810.10 = X
TOURING R&N PAX- $37,988.88 - $822.10 =X
X (minus) Current dealer cash = Net deal ($0 Break even) for the dealership
For example:
2009 Honda Odyssey EX-L
$30,804.99 - $663.10 - $2,250 = $27,891.89
A break even deal for a dealership is $27,891.89 plus taxes and tags and state fees.(if there is a dealer processing charge add that too)
Anything above this is a profit for the dealership, anything below this is considered a loss.
Example: A dealership that says they will sell it for $25,999, probably has something up their sleeve.
No matter what a dealership says they will sell the car for, this formula will help you decide if the deal can actually be done.
Yes, dealerships will occasionaly take a little loss -$1 to -$500. Beyond that...a deal that looks too good to be true, probably is.
Hope this helps shoppers.
Kindest regards,
-Honda salesman.
thank you for the post....
does this deal look legit ...
Touring without PAX
Price $33,666.00
Destination $670.00
Taxes $2,403.52
doc $199.00
MV $354.00
Total $37,292.52
I have received similar quotes from different dealers close to this.
Yes, this is a real sale price for a Touring Odyssey without PAX
A net deal for the dealership for this vehicle not including HDAG is:
$33,541 plus $670 Assuming no ad group fee... you are allowing $125 profit excluding the Doc fee (processing fee).
What is MV $354? What state are you titling in?
I would love to help, but the OTD prices can vary quite a bit with taxes, tags, and dealer fees (processing fee)
What is your states Tax percentage?
thanks
thanks for the input
I dont see quite $1,000..but I think there is a little room.
To be honest... it actually sounds like a fair deal to me.
Yes, dealers can beat prices.... but consumers being too aggressive with pricing may cause more headache then it may be worth. IMHO
Good luck!
Value wise I find the EXL R&N to be an awesome deal when compaired to the Touring.
$30,809.00 + TTL for a ’09 EX-L with DVD & Navigation in writing going to pick in the morning...I think it's a fair deal for the amount of effort I put in! I looked at the '09 Touring w/o PAX and offered $33,827.00 + TTL with no takers.
FB23
:shades:
Are all dealers offering that $2250 incentive? I haven't been able to find anything on the internet about that. And, are all dealers reducing prices by $1K?
Looking at buying, probably this weekend. Have to trade in 06 w/Pax (I knew I'd get less on the trade, but the van needs new tires). Should I wait to buy? How long do you think it will take for the incentives to kick in?
Thought the $35.5 was good, now feeling overwhelmed...
However the incentive to dealer just went to $2250 from $1250. Can I take car back and get better deal?? They said they had a 5 day money back guarantee.
We paid $32,200 on Saturday with the old incentive. I am going to see if I can return it for a better price.
Thanks!
http://www.edmunds.com/incentives/RebateController?styleid=101064478&popuppage=o- n
Oh well... I guess time to move on
Base Price $33,676.00
Destination $670.00
Selling Price $34,346.00 (includes Dest plus Discount plus Add'l $750 discount)
Administration Fee $598.00
Sub Total $34,944.00
Tax $2,446.08
Title $19.00
Lemon Law $3.00
Drive Out $37,412.08
He told me the following: "I have included the Honda discount in the price qoute plus an additional $750.00 discount. You mentioned a special rate on the Odyssey in lieu of the discount, there are no special rates on the 2009 Odyssey."
I figure if you take that $34,346 and subtract out the 670 dest then add back the 750 bonus discount and 2250 honda discount, the starting point was originally $36,676.
My car buying service has $35,502 (price + dest) - I have to add all the taxes, title, admin fees. I'll have to call and findout if this includes the Honda Discount.
Is that admin fee/doc fee high? I've only paid $150/$220 for similar line item in a different state.
I know you are supposed to negotiate the price sep from the trade. But, how do you negotiate the trade in? We plan to get an initial est from Carmax...maybe Honda will give more since it's one of their cars?
base price $30,699.00
destination $670
tax : $2,195.83
Doc : $199
Title+Registration : $354
Total : $34117.83
I received from two more dealers ...around this same price.
On a federal level, no. Some states, including Minnesota, have tried to pass a buyers "bill of rights". To date I am unaware of a law passing. However, I am aware of several dealerships and dealer groups who have an internal 3day/300 mile excahnge policy.
As far as incentives, I dont think Honda will offer any more dealer cash for some time to come. For MY 2008 they didnt offer $3500.00 until September of 2008. But, I am only guessing - dont hold me to it. I was amazed they added $1000.00 for the 2009 Odyssey.
Bought an '09 EX-L w/DVD and Navigation (black w/ tan interior) on Dec. 26 (before the incentives)
MRPS - 37,525
Invoice - 34, 048
Quote was 33,611 plus TT&L
OTD price was 35,961
I bought it in Houston, TX
Good luck with your purchase!
I know the Touring has a MID (mutli info display). Is the mileage on the EX-L a digital display? Is anything else displayed like temp/dist to empty? Can't seem to find a good photo of what that looks like on the EX-L model.
The 3rd row seat looks to be a 60/40 split, with the seats folding into the cargo area (this is new to the EX I think from the 06 model).
The power lift gate - is that power up and down? Again, I think the 06 EX-L model just had power up.
I've been shopping for the Touring, but now I'm thinking I should consider the EX-L DVD/NAV.
Thanks for the info.
Thanks.
The Nav display shows navigation maps, backup camera picture, CD/Radio/XM info.
3rd row seat is more like 70/30 split fold-down bench.
We got our 2008 EX-L w/DVD and Navi for $31,500 OTD (including 7.25% sales tax) right before new years.
The Exl-Res is $ 28,685.00 Drive out is $ 31,554.97
OTD includes 7% sales tax here in Forsyth County, Georgia.
Is this a good price?
Salesman says this includes new incentive and more.
I wrote the dealer a check for $30,884.00 ($75 added to base price of $30,809.00 for doc and title trans fees). I will pay taxes when I register it at DMV since I live in NV and bought the van in CA. My tax rate is 7.375% and NV has a fairly high registration fee.
I tried to work with the local (Reno) dealership, however, they said there was no way they could even come close (they wanted 2k more) to the deal I got...to bad because I really wanted to buy locally...they seemed quite lost with all the incentive and current price paid info, etc. I wonder, as others have, if the incentives are not available to all dealerships and this is why they were 2k above my deal??
Anyway, I worked with Kevin and Marco in the Internet div at AutoWest Honda Roseville...straight shooters and low stress--very happy! Kevin earned my business because of the price, but also due to his "non-annoying" persistence unlike any other dealer I contacted...either I had no reply or they wouldn't take "No Thanks" for an answer.
Happy to share more if anyone is interested...I'll monitor this site for few more weeks and then sign off until my next car purchase.
FB23
I live near Forsyth county as well. Can you give me the name of the dealer and a contact? Did you get your quote in person, on the phone, or by email?
Thanks.
Anyway, Curry did give me the lowest OTD price, but didn't give me the breakout of the price, doc, tax, etc. I am waiting on response. Not sure if I'll use them or not - want to see what their customer satisfaction is. I've heard Martin Milton is a good dealership.
I am working with Curry Honda in Chamblee. Apparently we are not allowed to post numbers or names of salesman on this forum. I got this quote in writing (by email, but I also have spoken with him on the phone). I think he is the internet sales manager, but I will find out. He is great to work with because he answers all of my questions within minutes from his Blackberry. I have had to wait hours to get responses from other dealers. I have emailed him to find out what his title is and I will post as soon as I hear back from him, I hope that helps. Maybe we can both get some money shaved off of this quote if we both buy this week. Once we agree upon a price, we are ready to go
I live near Mall of Georgia Honda and work near Gwinnett Place Honda but I am more than willing to drive down to Curry for a good deal. I have a friend who has worked at Curry for more than 15 years. I took my 2000 Odyssey to the body shop there and was pleased with the work and service. It is a little too far to go for regular service work.
Can you confirm that the quote you got included all of the doc fees? I will follow up with Curry today.