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So,,unless u absolutely want a Honda,,go with the Sienna undoubtedly.
Also used Siennas-with loaded features-- can be a real bargain.
Just MHO.
For 95% of drivers, leasing would be more cost efficient, however, because of the industry's past with leasing people are very close minded to leasing and don't even want to consider them.
Leasing gives you a lot more viable options, and you still build equity in the car.
In fact, most of the time(especially with Civic and Accord leases) with Hondas, you are in a positive equity situation at the end of a lease.
The big thing most people don't know about leasing is you can still negotiate the price of the car. Sometimes leases even have more (or less) incentive money available to the customer.
In recent model years, comparable model to comparable model, Honda's have much better build quality than Toyotas.
I almost might thing it will drop. The reason is that many dealership inventories are getting smaller. Honda's cutting back production a bit, and finding certain makes and models is becoming more and more difficult.
Here in the southeast EXL's, EXL RES, and EXL RES/nav are becoming short supply all over.
We're a 200-250 unit per month Honda store and we might have 20 Odysseys total on the lot currently. 25 or so if you count incoming units.
I am thinking about buying an 05 touring odyseey from a private seller. The car is in great shape from what it seesm, Inside is almost flawless and the exterior other than a door ding in the front right fender is also in great shape. The car is 20750 is this too much? too little it has about 26,000 miles on it. The person who owns it does not have kids and they travel for work hence the low milage. I will be taking it to my mechanic before I buy, but what about the price?
Thanks,
Jo
One dealer wouldn't match it saying he would lose $300 on the sale, but two other dealers did match it/beat it slightly after consulting with their GM's. I didn't pull the trigger as I want to ponder it more and I frankly ran out of patience in talking with dealers on a beautiful Saturday afternoon.
Just a couple of questions out to the group as it seems like a good price as they are giving up half of the holdback:
1. When they run out of room or dig in their heels on pricing, what else can I ask for? two years of routine maintenance (oil changes and tire rotations)? Minor accessories like cargo mats, etc?
2. I will have a trade in (2000 Sienna) that is roughly valued at $2500-2700...what is the best way to leverage that as part of the deal? I would actually prefer lower pricing to reduce taxes (horrendous in Omaha) vs. a higher trade in value.
thanks in advance for any perspective.
Niece's 2005 Ody EX w/46,000 miles trade-in $ 13,200.
She paid LESS for new 2005 Ody EX than I paid for new 2006 Sienna LE with the options I have.
A used Sienna will save you money because of the greater loss of value with a Sienna. :sick:
Here, we are focused on Odyssey Prices Paid...
thanks,
kyfdx
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Get a quote for your used car from Carmax Have it in your back pocket when you get the offer from the New car dealer as a trade-in.
I don't know if they have a special rule in Omaha, but in Texas, the sales tax is calculated on the Net (new car price minus trade-in to the same dealer, not Carmax), so it should not make a difference if they lower the new car price but low ball the trade-in value.
I would not believe the adage that the dealership WANTS your trade-in. They will simply turn around and wholesale to someone else, and it gives them a lot of paperwork, with little profit. Look around the dealer's lot. How many 2000 year models do you see?
I've sold my last two cars to Carmax, because they offered WAY more than the dealership, even after factoring in the extra sales tax I had to pay, because the trade-in was not with the dealership selling me the new car.
I didn't have a trade, so the whole process took a minimal amount of time and the dealer's sales agent was fantastic to work with. Based on what I've seen in the forums, the price seems in line with what others have been able to get.
I tried to negotiate roof rack cross bars and waiving the processing fee, but they said their price was rock bottom. I suspect their correct. That price is almost $7K off of MSRP.
To put things in perspective for people looking to buy, let me point out that we also owned a 2005 Odyssey EX without all the Leather, Sunroof, Rear Camera, Power Liftgate, or DVD system, and we paid $27,950 back in October of 2004 when the redesigned Odysseys came out and everyone was happy to pay full sticker and sometimes above sticker. (Fyi, we loved our 2005, be we sold it to our sister when she had a baby and desperately needed a minivan).
That means that flash forward almost 5 years and we only paid $500 more for an extremely more equipped Odyssey. In all my years of car buying, I have never seen Hondas selling for $7K under sticker.
This is truly the best time to be buying a new car of any make and model. Good luck to anyone else looking to buy an Odyssey.
P.S. - For what it's worth, my salesperson said that the Odyssey won't be redesigned until 2011. The Odyssey goes through a 6 year cycle. 2010 will be the 6th year of the current design. There may be slight changes in 2010, but not a redesign.
2009 Odyssey EX-L w/RES ..................$27,781
Appearance Package..................................N/C (Mud Guards/Wheel Locks/Pinstripe/Door Edge Guards)
Freight ......................................................670
Dealer Processing Fee ...............................399 :mad:
VA Sales Tax @3.12%................................900
Tags & Licensing Fees.................................49
OTD Price....................$29.799
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11249204&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&eCa- t=BC|79|4842|71350&N=4018665&Mo=9&pos=5&No=4&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=71350&Ns=P_- Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&ec=BC-EC10613-Cat21269&topnav=
Not sure if this is a good one (no reviews) - 12.1" costs additional 100 dollars, 9.2" 100 dollars less. Same unit costs about $350 at amazon (excludes installation).
For roof rack - I am seeing this for about 300 dollars:
http://arapahoe-motors-inc.amazonwebstore.com/Honda-Odyssey-Roof-Rack-LX-Only/M/- B001N41U2E.htm?traffic_src=froogle&utm_medium=organic&utm_source=froogle
Please let me know if you have any other findings.
We just bought an EX-L with RES/NAV (no other add-ons except wheel locks, which happened to be already on the vehicle) for $32830 in the San Francisco Bay area. Our vehicle price was $30,000 even, which seems to be a very good deal. I even had a salesman at another Honda dealer do everything but tell me to my face that I was lying when I told him I had a commitment of $30K for that vehicle. He just couldn't accept that it was new and had DVD and NAV for that price. He said the very best he could do was $600 higher.
A couple days later he called me up to see if we'd bought an Odyssey yet, and I told that we'd bought the one for 30, at which he repeated his "With DVD and NAV?" question yet again. I think he still thinks I was BSing him. Oh well, my gain, his loss.
Yeah, a couple days later I verified that the fog lights are dealer-installed only, so the finance guy was being, well, not straightforward on that point, to be charitable.
The fog lights go on a separate stalk? That's whack. I have a 2005 Mazda 5, and the foglights are just one more rotary switch on the stalk. I think Honda would be better off putting in a single wiring harness with fog light connections in it and a blank spot on the stalk to slap in the switch.
Thanks for the info on the fog lights, anyway. I may still consider getting them. Waiting for a good foggy night around here so I can go out for a drive and decide if I really need them or not in this car. They're very nice in my Mazda 5, but the Odyssey seems to throw a larger light pool and from a higher angle than the low-to-the-ground Mazda, so I may not need the fog lights as much.
Good luck on your deployment, and thank you for your service to our country.
>recomend a dealer with GUNN Honda
This board won't let me name my specific salesman,.
If you want to provide an e-mail address, I can send my salesman's name to you directly. You can create a temporary e-mail accouunt on gmail, and then just abandon the address after I send you the Info.
As I said, labor is a little rediculous in Atlanta. Every dealership I've worked for, Honda or not, is over $90 an hour.
Here is the break down:
Price of Vehicle : $30,330
Total with TTL (6.5% texas tax, around $280 other fees) : $32,505.63 (OTD)
Price of vehicle includes (mud guards, pinestripes, roof rack, cargo tray and wheel locks)
Also, should I wait until after settling on a price for the car to haggle about financing or should it be haggled for as a package deal?
Yesterday I got a quote of $29849 for EX-L from Buerkle Honda!!. This is $1099 more than your EX-L/RES quote!. The dealer argued that your quote is before 3/7 but I don't believe it. If possible, can you forward the quote to me? my email is ohwimgc@gmail.com. Thanks a lot.
I am trying to get quotes via email and the best I have managed so far is 30550 in South Bay.
Seems like there is a rush to buy Ody's before Aprils Sales Tax increase here in CA.
Any chance the dealer cash rebate would move lower in April from $2500 it is now?
If you have the chance car to pass on contact details of the dealer you had your deal done with
yes trying to get into a Honda odyssey touring no pax.here in San antonio my temp email is gilver88@gmail.com
21100+$299fee+$75 lic
+tax
does it sound reasonable ? shd I take it ?
Total out of the door
$34806 (includes all taxes and fees)
includes wheel lokcs, mudguards and pinstripe.
Tax is 3% VA "
Could you please post the name of the dealership?
Breakdown of the deal:
$28,500(incl destination)
$151.65(doc fees)
$65 (title fee)
$15 (transfer tag fee)
$ 25 (Electronic filing of new registration)
$1948.54 (taxes @6.25%)- This includes the taxes from $2500 incentive.
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$30,705.19 OTD
Also, should I wait until after settling on a price for the car to haggle about financing or should it be haggled for as a package deal?
Price: $27191(incl dest.)
Hondacare warranty 96 month/100,000: $1000
Taxes(5% MA): $1359
Dealer: $299
Plates: $86
Inpection Sticker: $29
Total OTD: $29964
What do you think?
$21,960 (incl dest)
$220 (tags/other fees)
$1317 (6% PA tax)
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$23,497
Additional "perks" include:
- Free lifetime inspections
- 7 year/100,000 mile powertrain warranty
Any comments/suggestions? What do you think? Is this a good deal?
Much better than I got out here in Arizona when I went for my 09 EXL.
They were not negotiating as much out here, I have a higher sales tax, etc.
I didn't even get the Hondacare warranty!!!
I don't have my specifics here at work, but I compared to what I paid, the fact you would be walking out for less than $30,000 and get all that....find your checkbook and give them some money!!
If you want my specifics, I can email them to you privately.
Dave