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Honda Accord Quality Control Issues

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  • blaneblane Posts: 2,017
    rapatel:

    I would also let the Service Manager know about your dissatisfaction with the overinflation. Your new car should never have been delivered that way. They should have adjusted the pressures during their predelivery prep. Overinflation can cause skittish (read: dangerous) handling and excessive wear on the center of the tread of the affected tire(s).
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Posts: 3,475
    When we took delivery of our coupe. I wondered why the car drove so crappily and checked the pressures. Sure enough they were jacked waaay up.
  • lugwrenchlugwrench Posts: 213
    When a new car is shipped, the tires are over inflated in transit. Once they arrive at the dealership, the tires are suppose to be adjusted to the proper pressure as indicated on the door. It is part of the Honda checklist on delivery of a new vehicle. It sounds as if, someone went through the motions of checking off that the tire pressure was correct.
  • inky4inky4 Posts: 238
    I also think the accord V-6 steering is not up to par at speed on curves. I sold my 3.2 TL for this and that car is rock solid, while the accord steering goes here and there.

    Otherwise after 9months I get 30 mpg in my highway driving at 75 mph. I have had no problems other than strange tire problem that was solved by switching front and rear.

    Overall, I think the steering/wheels is the weak link in this car.
  • 03lxv603lxv6 Posts: 126
    Hello there,

    Just found a dismal news at JD power:

    initial mechanical quality rating:

    03 Accord: 2/5
    03 Camry: 4/5

    even 03 Altima has 3/5.
  • talon95talon95 Posts: 1,110
    I don't know what the rating was, but the 2002 Camry had lots of teething problems. So I'm sure their rating was pretty low as well. And they got over it... I'm sure Honda will, too.

    As I said in the other thread, my 2003 EX V6 has been perfect so far (knock on wood), and JD Power never asked me for my rating.
  • lumpentlumpent Posts: 6
    I've had my 03 Accord 5spd since December and have about 4500 miles on it. I'm averaging about 240 miles per tank in the city. The couple of times i took hwy trips i got just about 400 miles. For a car that suggested it would get between 26 and 34 miles per gallon, this is pathetic. I'm looking at 14/23. I realize that each person's mileage will vary but that just seems way off (almost 50% off).

    The dealer told me that it takes time to break in the car and that my mileage will improve with time. Is this true? Is there anything i should check/fix?

    Thanks!
  • emaleemale Posts: 1,380
    per jd power,

    the only problem that has bugged me about my '03 coupe is intermittent and various dash and headliner (sunroof?) rattles. i haven't had any mechanical issues to speak of, and really don't expect any. but i do find the on/off rattles irritating. and the outside temp sensor has issues, but once again not a big deal. i'm wondering if you guys that haven't noticed any rattles live in warmer climes??
  • pj23pj23 Posts: 158
    I get 400 miles of mixed driving out of a tank of gas before my low fuel light comes on (my car is an '03 EX I-4 manual). At that point I have at least 3 gallons left. If you are getting only 400 miles out of 17.1 gallons, then there is probably something wrong.
  • hmurphyhmurphy Posts: 278
    I've been getting about 21 mpg in my EX-V6, with a mix of city and highway driving. I have about 1000 miles on the car. That's a bit lower than I would like, but I do a lot of stop-and-go, around-town driving.
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Posts: 4,202
    I am getting 30MPG average from my 03 EX-L 5-speed. If you do alot of stop and go driving, especially in colder climates you will probably get below-average fuel economy.
  • talon95talon95 Posts: 1,110
    The MPG on my EX V6 pretty much mirrors yours, with similar driving conditions. Given the power and the fact that I got 28 MPG on a trip on interstate highways, I'm pretty much satisfied.
  • I work in two places, one is 15 min away and mostly city driving. The other is 35 min away and all highway. I have a '03 Accord EX-L sedan 5 spd 4 cyl with navi. I recently switched locations and here are my milage results (from the trip computer)...

    City driving (avg 30 mph) about 26-27 mpg.
    Highway driving (avg 45-50 mph)about 30 mpg.

    Of course the city numbers include some highway driving and vice-versa but overall I think these numbers are pretty close to the EPA estimates and I am very satisfied.

    Another question...

    Does anyone know if any of the features on the new Accord are programable. For example, can the computer be programed to provide daytime running lights? How about to open the sunroof in response to the all windows-down feature from the remote or to have the sunroof close with the all windows-up when you turn and hold the key to the right in the driver's door lock?

    I know you can change these type of features in the new Mini's.
  • mikegold_1966mikegold_1966 Posts: 138
    initial mechanical quality rating:

    03 Accord: 2/5
    03 Camry: 4/5

    I would think that the 2003 Accord has more quality concerns than expected. I guess buying a new model the first year it is out isn't sound for any new car.
  • talon95talon95 Posts: 1,110
    Well, when a cupholder design that doesn't hold extra large cups is listed as a "quality concern" (happened to the Mini) and is weighted equally to something like "transmission failed", I wouldn't lose any sleep over these scores.
  • lenscaplenscap Posts: 854
    Actually, many new cars are better than the ones they replace. If you take a look at the JD Power press release, it says many consumers delay first-year models waiting for manufacturers to work the bugs out. Yet the reality is most new models are very good, and a few manufacturers have a pattern of launching new models with better initial quality than the cars they replaced. It mentions Toyota, Mitsubishi, Hyundai and Chrysler as examples.

    My family has ownerd several new, first-year models over the years, including a 1988 Honda Prelude, 1990 Lexus LS 400, 1991 Acura Legend and 2002 Lexus ES 300. All were phenominal cars with no problems at all.
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Posts: 4,202
    I've had no problems in 9300 miles of ownership.
  • talon95talon95 Posts: 1,110
    Were you ever contacted by JD Power to fill out a survey?
  • lumpentlumpent Posts: 6
    Seems that most everyone is getting somewhere between 23-30 mpg and that includes most people with V6's. This leads me to think that my 13 MPG is extremely low. I live in a warm climate and don't stop or go any more than most. (i've got a 3 mile commute), and my 94 accord 5spd was getting around 23 for the same trip/driving style. With the dealer having essentially given me the brush off, can anyone suggest a course of action? If you don't think 13 MPG is bad, can we trade cars?

    Thanks!
  • bburton3bburton3 Posts: 185
    To get that much gas thru a honda-even a v6-it has got to be making black exhaust clouds-the exhaust should have a really sharp smell. Also that much gas will fry the cat in a hurry. Does it miss when the engine is cold. Check the mileage again-if correct some is really wrong with the car-at that mpg it is a wonder it even runs. My 97 I4 was running slightly rich and it caused the engine to stumble/miss when cold.
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Posts: 3,475
    I wouldn't be surprised you are getting such poor mileage. All engines run rich until they reach operating temp.
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Posts: 4,202
    We did fill out a JD Powers survey.
  • gregoryc1gregoryc1 Posts: 766
    Let the dealer repair the engine with the "short block"! After the repair is completed in a "professional manner", and you have taken delivery of the vehicle, ask to speak to the owner or general manager of the dealership about a trade in of this vehicle. If you do this in a "professional manner", I think that something can be done. The "key" to this process is being "adult" and "professional". It might cost you some money, but if you are truly unhappy with the car,--- get rid of it!!!! Life is too short to be unhappy.---- If you keep the vehicle, you will be making payments on something that you hate! -----Just my opinion. ----Greg
  • cferrocferro Posts: 4
    You happen to get a lemon. It can happen to anyone. I have to agree with the other poster have the car repaired by the dealer and trade it in. This process may cost you some money,but life is too short.
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Posts: 3,475
    Not a car that you don't like after the repair. If the car runs like a new car when you get it back the first time, that is far from a lemon.
  • gregoryc1gregoryc1 Posts: 766
    I can understand how the owner of this new vehicle feels about this issue. Example: ---I had a new boat that needed a new engine after a couple of years of use under the manufacturer's extended warranty.---There was a "quality" problem with an engine component,(head gaskets), that left me and my wife without power stranded in 3' seas. If it wasn't for "Sea Tow", I might not be writing this posting today. (We might be sleeping with the fishes).---- The replacement engine, (while it was installed properly and the boat did operate properly), did not allow me to "feel comfortable" with the boat or the engine. ( I no longer trusted the boat or the drive train). I traded the boat, took the loss and purchased a new boat. Life is too short to be unhappy. Especially when you are making payments for the experience. If my new Honda needed an engine replacement because of a manufacturer's defect in materials and workmanship, I would let the dealer repair the vehicle under the terms and conditions of the warranty. After the vehicle is returned to me, and I am sure that the engine is operating properly, I would approach the owner of the dealership to discuss a "house deal" in terms of trading this vehicle. If the "numbers" are good, I would do the trade. (The dealer would have to sell me the new vehicle close to cost, and give me full value for the trade). If the numbers do not make sense, I would keep the vehicle, and put a maximum extended warranty on the vehicle, (if not already in place).----Just my opinion. ----Greg
  • mymomymo Posts: 15
    You must have bought the boat in your pre (you know what)additive discovery days, or the engine would have been fine. Anyway your post gave me a good laugh as I though back to prior discussions. I suppose many others were amused as well. Happy Memorial Day!
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Posts: 3,475
    But that doesn't make the car a lemon. I had the same problem with Civic back in 99. Bought a Civic EX 4 dorr brand new but found evidence of repair. Didn't want the car anymore. Dealer gave ne fair trade on the Civic for a new Accord EX at Invoice. Honda even sent me $1000 for the trouble. I am fully aware of what you are saying but the car is not a Lemon nor was the boat.
  • gregoryc1gregoryc1 Posts: 766
    Any vehicle can be repaired. Now having made that statement, at what point does the owner of the vehicle loose faith in the quality of the vehicle, and as such, he / she no longer enjoys ownership and / or the usage of the vehicle???? The concept of a "vehicle being a lemon" is in the mind of the owner, even though the manufacturer has their own definition of the term "lemon". The problem of extensive warranty work being an major issue, (in the definition of a vehicle being a lemon), is when the customer deals with a dealer who drags their feet when either diagnosing a problem or making the necessary repairs. This creates the "Lemon Image", because the vehicle must be returned to the service center a number of times for the necessary correction. It also "boils down" to how much the individual is willing to "put-up-with" in terms of warranty service, and lack of "product performance".-----Are there really Lemon Vehicles???? Probably not. If the manufacturer was really willing to find the problem with the vehicle it could probably be repaired, and as such, it could provide many years of service. It all "boils down to money", and the cost of locating the cause of the problem. ----Just my opinion. ----Greg
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Posts: 3,475
    diagnosed to need a new engine and got one I don't know. If you don't want the car anymore that personal. I'm sure the next owner wouldn't know the difference. With a real "lemon" the next owner would have the same problem as the car would not be repaired. That's why true lemons are branded at carfax.
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