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EDIT: Oh, usually OTD price includes ttl and fees.
for 20200 OTD includes everything, destination, tax tag TTL, doc fees,
thinking now that I shouldhave waited a little more.
looks like deals will be on every month
Also, someone may post a great price here but don't bother telling you the huge doc fees the dealer charges. Geesh, we've got folks here who can't even agree what OTD is. :confuse:
Read what you can and be prepared for anything. Get all the fees up front. You can't do anything about destination, tax, license, etc. but doc fees, dealer add-ons and all that other stuff are negotiable. Of course, the dealer has every right not to negotiate them.
The only true way to know if your getting a good deal is to post the exact breakdown of the price. OTD pricing can be very misleading as these variables can be different depending on what state you live in etc. If you really want a true assement of "how a good of deal is it" you need to post selling price + dest fee (assumer 595.00 if they say included) + doc fee (sometimes they call this something else like dealer fee) and ask them if their any other fee's if not you should then include simply for disclosure the TTL and sales tax. The last 2 variables again can be different depending on where u live and are really
irrelevant when trying to determine if you got a a good deal.
An example would be a post by Saleem when he bought the following
2007 Accord SE AT I4 bought in Jan 07
18200 - car
595 destination
180 doc fee
1315 7% tax
7.50 tire tax
Thanks !
Invoice on Edmunds says $24,820, so it seems like an ok deal.
I visited 5 dealers, and average was about 24200.
Good luck!
Paid $27074.00
With extras: rear wing spoiler
Trunk tray
Moon roof visor
Mud Flaps
Thanks
Only 1 out of 8-12 dealers will be significantly behind on their sales targets for the month and you need this many bid solicitations (1/2 will answer) to generate 2-5 really eager beavers. See what you can drum up. Work the top two or the most pesky. Its better than them working you.
--Happy Hunting
--jjf
We like it.
Got a quote the other day for a i4 ex-l. They wrote it up and I left a deposit. We went back to the dealer today (they were closed) to see our possible new car. We checked the VIN# and it was wrong. So we thought they were trying to sell an older one on the lot. As it turns out the VIN on our receipt was to a v6 ex-l, same color.
Has this ever happend to any of you? Do you think they will honor the price? If we didn't see this, the dealers computer would have, right? Just curious.
Thanks
There is around a $2000 difference...
Try to make them pay a penalty on deposit you paid if they don't honor it.
Sounds like an honest mistake. Don't try to force them into anything or else you'll seem like the typical [non-permissible content removed] car dealer we despise on this forum. Renegotiate in good faith and make them give you a good deal (or walk away).
Thanks again, this site has been very helpful.
Our deal was easy and our salesperson was fantastic. Took the quote he gave me to other dealers and they couldn't come within 1000 of it. I will say the car I wanted was on their lot over 60 days and they were trying to get rid of it.
2007 Honda Accord EX I4 manual transmission (typing it straight from the receipt)
Selling price: 19,147
Accessories: 1252
Total: 20,399.80
Sales Tax: 1274.99
Inventory tax: 49.20
TTL: 127.99
Doc fee: 50
Total OTD: 21,901
I am estatic over of the deal we got. If anyone in the SA/south TX wants to deal with our guy, shoot me an e-mail. I highly recommend him!
2. Having said that, if the price is what I read in one of your ealier posts (22,400), then it's WAY too high. You should be able to do much better
$595 for a spoiler installed.
A know it's not the best deal, but how much lower do you think the price could be?
What accessories did you get?
Agreed to the following deal for a Honda Accord Sedan Ex-L 4-cyl. Automatic:
Purchase Price: $22,241
Doc fee: $45
Tire Tax: $12.50
Sales Tax (Westchester, NY): 7.375%
Included extras: Wood Trim
Color: Black on black
However I am really debating between the above car and:
2007 Honda Civic Sedan Ex w/ Navi --
Purchase Price: $19,900
Doc fee: $45
Tire Tax: $12.50
Sales Tax: 7.375%
My question is this of the experienced Honda owners in this forum: Given the above scenarios which is the better car value-for-money? And which will have the better residual value (in your opinion)after 5 years?
Lastly, the dealer is pushing the Simoniz...is this a rip-off? Or is of value for a black exterior?
Thanks all!!
I was going to get spoiler, fog lamps, and tint. With the purchase of 5 accessories, we got a discount so we added the trunk liner and trunk cargo net. Because of the low offer, we didn't really haggle over the accessories, plus they were reasonably priced installed. I can't wait to take it back and have the options installed and the dealer to prep it.
Thoughts?
Lastly, the dealer is pushing the Simoniz...is this a rip-off? Or is of value for a black exterior?
Totally unnecessary.
Unless he wants to give you a free can of Simoniz.
Of course, I do like the Navi on my Accord so you may want it and get the Civic. A portable unit for the Accord would be a better way to go, imho.
Could you please provide the name of the dealership that offered you this price? I am also looking to buy/lease an Accord in Westchester county. Thanks.
I declined the extended warranty....I'm not the "extended warranty" type...lol
Price was $1200.
I wish I had known about these forums before I bought my Accord last week. Oh well.
Anyway, I just purchased Accord EX
23945 MSRP w/destination chg
386 list price for dealer add-ons (wheel locks, mud flaps)
181 license % title
24512 total....this is about what I actually paid
dealer paid the approx $2100. sales tax (9.1%)
I suppose I might've done better, but I thought this was a reasonable deal.
Comments welcome.
The Accord is really worth the extra money, IMO, for the better driving experience it provides.
As they say, you can't put a price on a good time.
GL with whichever car you choose.
Most of the areas of the country have been extremely competitive as they are trying to move all of the older style 2007's before the 2008's come out, so that price should be very do-able if you shop around.
At this point, see if you can get the salesman to throw in some extra keys, lifetime oil changes, service manuals, or anything. He/She probably won't do it, but doesn't hurt to ask.
Only way to buy it unless finance guy at your dealership will match it. myhondawarranty.com (Sacucci honda) is one of the dealerships doing it. Google hondacare warranty for more.
I'll bet their price of the 8/120 for the accord is $750.
Happy Huntin
jjf
Tim I just bought the same car
I declined the extended warranty....I'm not the "extended warranty" type...lol
Price was $1200.
1 Do you calculate $23,230 as out-the-door price? That doesn't seem to allow for dealer profit. Or, am I missing something?
2 I concede that I was a bit sloppy about negotiating for a great deal, so I missed out....but I also saw that Edmunds "TMV--what others are paying" price is $22,637. Is it reasonable to assume that is the actual average price that others are paying? (If so, my deal is not too bad, as I paid approx $500. less than that "average" deal.)
BTW I live near Seattle.
Thanks for all input.
Went to myhondawarranty.com their price for 8/120 was $840
That is $360. lower than what my dealer was selling it for
Not inclined to buy it, but I'm gonna give it some more thought.
These deals are out there. I purchased an '07 EX-L V6 with Nav for $25,062 OTD on January 31st out of Louisiana.
Basically, I figure the dealer was 'all in' with everything -- manufacturer's assistance, holdback, projected volume incentive, etc. -- and I was able to get the car for very close to, if not actual, 'true cost'.
The only issue I had with my car was it was said to have 29 miles...and when I arrived to load the car up (from Montana :surprise: ) it actually had 126 miles. Not a big deal to me though for that kind of price break.
The Accord has been a 1000 under invoice car for quite some time. I know time is money and it's not worth killing yourself for $300 but if you buy or trade a lot you will be putting someone's kids thru Princeton.
I could write a book on car buying, but there are a (very few) good resourses out there.
1)Get the fightingchance.com package for $35 on your car.
2)Go to the library or amazon( may be updated) and checkout "Dont Get Taken Every Time" by Remar Sutton-- it is a fun read.
Do this post-mortem on your Accord purchase and you will know more than 97% of the car salesmen and 80% of the sales managers. (there is a high turnover rate) For $35,a library card and a few hours of your time you will save thousands.
Happy Huntin
--jjf
OK, 2 questions:
1 Do you calculate $23,230 as out-the-door price? That doesn't seem to allow for dealer profit. Or, am I missing something?
2 I concede that I was a bit sloppy about negotiating for a great deal, so I missed out....but I also saw that Edmunds "TMV--what others are paying" price is $22,637. Is it reasonable to assume that is the actual average price that others are paying? (If so, my deal is not too bad, as I paid approx $500. less than that "average" deal.)
BTW I live near Seattle.
Thanks for all input.
Happy Hunting
--jjf
NEW '07 Honda Accord Automatic 4DR EX-L V6 with Navigation for $24,999 (includes destination charge)!!! This is FAR below invoice price. How is this possible?
These deals are out there. I purchased an '07 EX-L V6 with Nav for $25,062 OTD on January 31st out of Louisiana.
Basically, the I figure the dealer was 'all in' with everything -- manufacturer's assistance, holdback, projected volume incentive, etc. -- and basically I was able to get the car for very close to, if not actual, 'true cost'.
--jjf
Thanks for the tip
Went to myhondawarranty.com their price for 8/120 was $840
That is $360. lower than what my dealer was selling it for
Not inclined to buy it, but I'm gonna give it some more thought.
I was quoted $25,741 for an 07 EX-L V6 MT w/Navigation considering that Navigation is a $2,000 option.
I need to make a decison ASAP.
Civic Ex 4dr. Sedan AT w/ Navi
Purchase Price 19,918 (including destination)
Doc fee: $45
Tire Tax: $12.50
Sales Tax: 7.375%
Honda Accord EX L 4dr. sedan AT
Purchase Price 22,241 (including destination)
Doc fee: $45
Tire tax: $12.50
Sales Tax: 7.375%
You all are the Honda experts. Considering value for money and residual value -- which is a better deal at the above prices? The redesigned Civic w/ navi or the more luxurious accord ex/l with a soon to be outdated body?
Also, what should mag locks run me?