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Why didn't you post the details of your purchase in this forum? If you would have posted, maybe the person we discussed earlier would have saved some money, since you apparently paid nearly $1000 less than he did.
I'm looking @ the SE v6 what I have been doing is anyone that bought the car and posted the breakdown on the boards. I opened up Microsoft word and copied and pasted the post as to what they paid. So I would have a clear picture of what they were able to get the car for......Navigating all those posts is time consuming and its hard to keep track the breakdown etc, You also get an idea what the market is on on the East Coast vs Midwest West etc. Just because you see a great deal on the East coast doesnt mean we can get that here in the Midwest where I live. By now you have proably learned you may need to travel to get the best deal. Even though I'm in the midwest 2 of the best deals I have read about were out of Boston and DC this is since I started reading the boards in Jan 07. If your willing to travel which I belive your out of NY you could take the train or buy a one-way plane tix. I'm guessing the price is cheap out of NY to fly. I will dig up the dealers names if your intrested. In the interim share the offer prices you have gotten so far. Or search the forum for SE v6 using the search function let me know what you find. I will compare it against what I have found
To be frank, I don't think someone else's purhcase price depends solely on the price I received my car for. There are thousands of prices listed on the forum...all it takes is a search.
Back earlier I saw someone pay 19500 OTD, making the car price around 17.9 including destination. Does this mean I could've gotten the car for this price? Not a chance. But I did a search, found a handful of numbers that people were paying, and used that for comparison. I didn't pick the lowest number someone else paid and expect to pay that same amount.
There were plenty of other ways to gauge the quotes I was given.
That person is happy with his purhcase, so let it be.
I think you're missing my point...why didn't you post the detail of your purchase in this forum?
Why participate in a PRICES PAID forum, and use the information that others provide, then not post the price you paid for your Accord?
I think you're missing my point...why didn't you post the detail of your purchase in this forum?
Why participate in a PRICES PAID forum, and use the information that others provide, then not post the price you paid for your Accord?
So am I correct to assume, based on your response, that only the people who post prices are the ones allowed to purchase an Accord? :P
two way street: i don't see your price anywhere. WHy is that? Because you purchased a car last year?
Well, I purhcased a car last year, too. Prices were different at that time...even posting my own price would not have 'helped' him get a better price.
I don't know why you are so concerned about my own numbers...but if it will satisfy you, I didn't receive my car in a conventional method. I don't have exact figures to tell you...I'm just guesstimating my price was around that number since I was not present at the time of the transaction.
Does this complete your interrogation?
Went for the 2007 VP Auto and was
16600 including destination..TTL and Doc fees all included
came to about 17350 OTD
Got Mudguards and Pinstripes free..thats all
Thanks to the Forum for all the info provided
My suggestion for others who can wait is to hang in till the last of the month and you will see prices of 2000 below invoice
2007 Honda Accord Sedan SE V6 AT MSRP - $23,945 ... Your Price - $20,552
2007 Honda Accord Sedan SE AT MSRP - $22,220 ... Your Price - $18,994
I think you could start 500 under those quotes. Good luck.
"I am holding actual invoice for an 07 Accord SE V6. It reads as follows:
Invoice cost: $21,159.85
Destination Charge: $595.00
Sub-Total: $21754.85
HDAG(advertising fee) : $250.00
Total: $22,004.85
Now the hold back is 3% of MSRP($23,350.00) for $700.50, plus the $750 Dealer cash that you mentioned for a total of $1450.50.
If you subtract that from the invoice that would be $20,554.35. What would you consider a fair profit? Bear in mind that holdback barely covers dealer expences. Also bear in mind that Dealer Cash is not a rebate but a bonus for dealers to sell more cars of a paticular model."
I have read online that Honda ad fees are built into the invoice price. Can anyone confirm this and if this is the case shouldn't the invoice price that was quoted to me already include this fee and not be an additional fee?
invoice - $20,042
dest charge - 595
7% NJ sales tax - 1,445
doc fee - 199
registration - 254
NJ tire fee - 7
TOTAL PRICE - $22,542
Is this a good deal? Thinking to pull the trigger but I'm not 100% sold yet. I'm thinking the registration fee is a bit high, but I'd like to get input from you guys on this. I have no car to trade in, and I want to buy with my own financing.
By my estimate the dealer is making around $300 profit on the $20,042 invoice price alone (when calculating the 3% base MSRP holdback and the $750 factory to dealer incentive). But "true dealer invoice" is always difficult to calculate.
FYI, this price was from a Honda dealer in central NJ.
The invoice the dealer quoted you looks like what I have seen published for invoice. I don't know about "ad fees", that could be a regional thing - *I* have not seen that tacked on to a Honda invoice around here.
If they will take invoice - less dealer money + ad fee then take it. $250 on a $22k deal is nothing to get to worked up over. If they can't do that or real close then try elsewhere.
Dennis
That's a very good price. Make sure they're not trying to sell you a car that the salesmen have been driving around for the last month.
The first column of numbers is the price identified excluding TTL for the specified model. The second column of numbers is the supposed OTD price. Usually the posts only contain one or the other and obviously the OTD price is effected greatly by where you live (taxes in NC are only 3% but are as high as at least 8% in other states). The third column identifies the message number where the identified price is posted, so you can link back to see the details of the post.
Of course, it isn't always clear from some of the posts if there were additional fees not included in their identified price. I assume no responsibility for any misrepresentation as this is simply an honest attempt to identify prices being paid by others as a comparison to the quotes I receive when I begin email shopping at the end of this month.
Model Exc TTL OTD Message #
Accord LX $16,957 $18,000 14493
Accord LX XXXXXX $18,000 14571
Accord LX $18,195 XXXXXX 14231
Accord LX XXXXXX $18,500 14313
Accord SE XXXXXX $19,500 14447
Accord SE $18,685 $19,950 14411
Accord SE XXXXXX $20,000 14448
Accord SE $18,592 $20,000 14301
Accord SE $18,795 XXXXXX 14418
Accord SE $18,840 XXXXXX 14484
Accord SE $18,973 $20,200 14326
Accord SE $19,000 XXXXXX 14223
Accord SE $19,146 $20,441 14293
Accord SE $19,294 $21,226 14568
Accord SE V6 $19,759 $21,700 14224
Accord SE V6 $19,789 XXXXXX 14245
Accord SE V6 $20,300 XXXXXX 14260
Accord SE V6 $20,500 XXXXXX 14585
Accord SE V6 $20,533 XXXXXX 14602
Accord SE V6 $20,903 $22,260 14219
Accord EX-L I4 $21,300 XXXXXX 14626
Accord EX-L I4 $21,550 XXXXXX 14281
Accord EX-L I4 XXXXXX $22,900 14509
Accord EX-L I4 $22,241 XXXXXX 14376
Accord EX-L I4 $22,250 XXXXXX 14362
Accord EX-L I4 $22,500 XXXXXX 14541
Accord EX-L I4 $22,570 XXXXXX 14435
Accord EX-L V6 $22,500? XXXXXX 14535
Accord EX-L V6 $23,900 XXXXXX 14361
Hope others find this information useful.
NEW 2007 HONDA ACCORD 4DR White
EX-L V-6 with Automatic Transmission and Navigation with options listed below
ORIGINAL LIST $29,400
Navigation System Included/Freight $595
ENG1NE-3.0L DOHC V-6
TRANSMISSION-5 SPEED AUTOMATIC
*** DEALER INSTALLED ITEMS **
SPLASH GUARD SET $138
WHEEL LOCKS $76
PINSTRIPE $125
PAINTED MATCHED MOLDINGS $399
(Fender well trim and Door edge trim)
REAR WING SPOILER $587
FOG LIGHTS $440
HOOD SWITCH KIT $97
CARGO NET $61
Discount $5,033.24
DEALER PROCESSING CHARGE $100
COLOR WHITE
SELLING PRICE $26,984.76
Paint and Leather Protection $300
CASH PRICE $27,284.76
TAX $1,364.24
New Tags: $175
TOTAL $26,984.76
Eight year/120,000 mile “0” Deductible
EXTENDED SERVICE POLICY $980
FINAL CASH TOTAL $29.804
DOWN PAYMENT $29,804
TRADE-IN: NONE
TOTAL DOWN PAYMENT $29,804
IDEALLY, if you can avoid it at all, DO NOT negotiate a trade in. Simplify the entire negotiating and buying experience. Sell it yourself and make a lot more money on the value of your old vehicle. Say you are going to pay cash when looking for the best price! You can always change your mind AFTER you make the deal but the dealership will negotiate the deal to make a lot more money on their behalf by handling the financing for you. If you are going to make your decision to purchase the car on a monthly payment amount (rather than based on YOUR bottom line), THEY GOT YOU! Take out those variables and you’ll save yourself even more money. Better to pre-arrange a loan with your credit union or bank and come prepared to pay cash. Don’t forget that you can put some (maybe all, if your lucky) of your purchase amount onto a credit card (about 20% of the total purchase price) if you like to use credit card point rewards. But pay off your credit card portion of the purchase IMMEDIATELY with the better financing loan you pre-arranged with the bank or credit union. Be disciplined!!!
#1. Determine EXACTLY what feature and options you want on the vehicle (decide what kind of warranty, road hazard protection, etc. etc. PRIOR to getting any pricing on the vehicle) by going to the dealer that you most preferably want to buy the vehicle from. There is a little back room they want to take you in AFTER you have agreed to the purchase of the vehicle and nail you for all the available things like extended warranty, road hazard policy, etc. Establish a relationship with a particular sales person you want to work with (they are all very friendly, they have to be). Get a complete and comprehensive understanding from that particular individual about the vehicle you want and ALL it's available features to determine exactly what you want on the vehicle. DO NOT ASK FOR A PRICE. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BUY THE CAR AT THAT TIME. Tell the sales person that you are still doing research but that you will give him/her last right of refusal AFTER you have completed your research as a reward for their time and effort. DO NOT MAKE ANY CONTACT WITH AT LEAST FOUR OTHER LOCAL DEALERS CONCERNING PRICE UNTIL YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED WHAT YOU WANT TO PAY FOR THE CAR (not what THEY want you to pay for the car).
#2. Type up a comprehensive check list of EVERYTHING (exactly as you want it) on the vehicle (Optional equipment, warranty, road hazard protection etc., etc., etc. as well as a listing of all the standard equipment). Establish one SMALL item (ahead of time) for the final negotiation (mine was the cargo net) that you can get them to “throw in” if they refuse to meet your price (but you won’t care about it if it’s left out). This will be a face saving move for them and satisfaction to you if you pay a little more than you planned but you got an extra car option/feature or service item in return (free oil changes, etc.)
#3. Use Edmunds.com to research your National Average Invoice Price for the Vehicle and make INTERNTET CONTACT with local dealers. They all have an internet department now. BUT DO NOT MAKE INTERNET CONTACT WITH THE LOCAL DEALER WHOM YOU PREFER TO PURCHASE THE CAR FROM. It will be tempting, but remember, you established a relationship with a salesman at that particular dealership in the beginning and he will work a lot harder for you when you honor your promise. He will not have forgotten you.
#4. Get the fax numbers for as many dealers as possible (both long distance and local).
#5. AFTER you get an email stating the name of the "internet sales" person who has been assigned to you, FAX your personal type written and prepared “request for a quote” sheet to the attention of that individual with a personal hand written note at the top, thanking them for their response and request that they fill out your quote sheet and fax it back to you. Make them understand that they must fax to you. DO NOT ANSWER THE PHONE. Always communicate in written form and by fax until YOU are prepared to speak with them.
#6. If they FAX back an incomplete fax sheet then fax another one back to them with a handwritten personal note thanking them for their response but indicating that you cannot consider their quote unless all the requested information is properly listed. Example: Make sure they have checked marked (or initialed) on the line next to all of your options (standard equipment does not need to be check marked but be certain you know in advance what is standard, what is optional and what is available equipment). Have lines on your quote sheet for them to fill in the pricing next to “OUT THE DOOR” vehicle price WITH accessory package and selected available features. That dollar number should include TAX, TAGS, LICENSE as well as any and ALL miscellaneous charges. SAMPLE PROVIDED BELOW FOR COPY AND PASTE
#7. Call the dealers who faxed you back and tell them what price you are looking for (about $1,000 to $1,500 LESS than the lowest quote you have been able to establish during your discovery process). You will sacrifice some dealership relationships during your discovery process but you don’t want it to be your preferred final dealer or any of the other possible back up local dealers in your area.
#8. When you are finally ready, fax a final quote to the dealership that you did you’re your initial research with to the attention of the salesman you spent all that time with and tell them exactly the price you are looking for (make it for about $500 less that you feel you should pay based on all the other quotes you have collected and worked the price down). Do not show them any of the other quotes that you received. You only got those quotes so you could establish that “magic number” in your mind. If you do show them other dealer quotes (no matter how tempting it is) then they will conclude that you are on a shopping expedition and are not a serious buyer. They will not respond to you favorably because they think you are going to show their quote to someone else. YOU HAVE TO SHOW THEM YOU
SAMPLE QUOTE SHEET
No cover sheet required. This faxes directly to my home. Just fill in the blanks!
►Definitely purchasing this vehicle within the next 15 days
All considered offers are to be submitted no later than by 5 PM on Friday, April 6th, 2007.
►Purchase to be paid in full by Cashiers Check. ►NO FINANCING! No trade-in!
Dealership Name:___________________________________________________________
Representative Name: _______________________________________________________
Representative Desk Phone: __________________________________________________
Representative Cell Phone: __________________________________________________
Dealership Fax Number: ____________________________________________________
Dealership Main Number: ___________________________________________________
Dealership Address location: _________________________________________________
*2007 Honda Accord EX-L V-6 Sedan
►Exterior Color: White
►Interior Leather Color: Tan
Accessory Features TO BE INCLUDED in the final purchase price!
Please initial on the line next to each accessory and/or feature below to acknowledge that this accessory and/or feature IS included in the total *vehicle price on page 3 of 3 (otherwise your offer will not be considered). Thank you
_______Extended Eight year Warranty (120,000 mile Honda Care Service Warranty) Zero Deductable
_______Paint Protection AND Leather Protection
_______Rear Wing Spoiler
_______Fog Lights
_______Door Edge Guards (white) AND Fenderwell Trim (white)
_______Splash Guard Set (black)
_______Pin Stripe (Double black lines without Honda Logo)
_______Hood Switch Kit (security system)
_______Wheel Locks
*Standard AND available features SELECTED to be included with EX-L V-6 Sedan
_______3.0 –liter, 24-valve SOHC VTEC V-6 engine◄
_______Standard 5-speed automatic transmission with Grade Logic Control◄
_______Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation system with voice recognition◄
120 –watt AM/FM/6 disc in-dash CD changer audio system with 6 speakers (front/rear speakers)
Premium Carpet Floor Mats (Tan)
Security System
Immobilizer Theft-Deterrent System
XM Satellite Radio
Home Link remote system
Remote entry system with power window control
Variable power-assisted rack-and-pinion steering
Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) with traction control
4-wheel disc brakes with Electronic Brake Distribution (EBD)
Anti-lock braking system (ABS)
Brake assist
17” V-6 Alloy Wheel
P215/50 R17 93V tires
Double wishbone front suspension
Five-link double whish bone rear suspension
Rear stabilizer bar
Dual-stage, dual threshold front airbags (SRS)
Front side airbags with passenger side Occupant Position Detection System (OPDS)
Side curtain bags
Variable intermittent windshield wipers
Heated power side mirrors
Tilt and telescopic steering column
Perforated Leather Wrapped Steering Wheel
Illuminated steering wheel-mounted cruise/audio controls
Drive-By-Wire throttle system
Gray backlit gauge
Maintenance Minder system
Driver’s and front passenger’s illuminated vanity mirrors
Sunglasses holder
Map lights
Power moon roof with tilt feature
Air conditioning with air-filtration system
Outside Temperature Gauge
Dual-zone automatic climate control system
Premium Interior Accents
Interior Trim Kit
Center Trim Kit
Door Panel Trim Kit
Heated Front Seats
Leather-trimmed seats and door-panel inserts
Driver’s Seat with 8-way power adjustment
Driver’s and front passenger’s seat belt reminder
Passenger’s seat with 4-way power
Adjustable front seat belt anchors
Front seat belts with automatic tensioning system
Illuminated Power window switches (driver/passenger)
Power windows with auto-up/down driver’s window
Power door locks
Side Door pockets with integrated beverage holder, front and rear
Beverage holders front and rear (8 total)
Center console with sliding armrest and storage compartments
Ambient Console Lighting
12-volt power outlets (front and center console)
Outboard Lower Anchors and Tethers for Children (LATCH)
Rear child seat tether anchor
Fold-down rear seat center armrest and trunk pass-through with lock
Fold-down rear seatback with lock
Multi-reflector halogen headlights with auto-off
Chrome window trim
Body-colored door handles
Body-colored power side mirrors
Body-colored rocker panels
Impact-absorbing body-colored bumpers
Daytime Running Lights (DRL)
Emergency trunk opener
Cargo area light
Remote fuel filler door and trunk release lock
LED brake lights
Rear window defroster
Chrome exhaust finisher(s)
$ = Your best offer on the above vehicle WITH ACCESSORY PACKAGE FEATURES
$+ ____ = PLUS Maryland Tax, Tags, License as well as any and ALL miscellaneous charges!
$ = “OUT THE DOOR” VEHICLE PRICE WITH ACCESSORY PACKAGE FEATURES
No cover sheet required. Just fill in the blanks and FAX:
Please FAX your offer no later than 5 PM on Friday, April 6th, 2007
Thank you for your response!
“Dealers can comfortably part with a new car once they make a profit of $1500. Many times this profit margin means selling the car for under invoice price”. Excerpt from New Car Insider $26,627 INVOICE
Here is a split of my deal I made today on my Honda Accord
2007 Special Edition (SE) 4 Door 4 Cylinder Automatic trans.
Price paid :$18,488.00 ($1005 below INVCE)
Sales tax :$ 1,572.00
Document Prep fee :$ 55.00
Security system :$ 694.00
Extended warranty :$ 1000.00
License/reg & Calif Tire fee :$ 196.75
Total cash :$ 22,005.00
#1). $29,900 = Is the Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) for this EX-L V-6 with Navigation (not including dealer options, tax, tags, etc.)
#2.) $26,627 = Is the National Invoice Price (standard features only) for this basic EX-L V-6 with Navigation (not including dealer options, tax, tags, etc.)
#3.) $25,061.76 = Is the purchase price I actually paid for this vehicle (not including dealer options, tax, tags, etc.)
#4.) $1,565.24 = The dollar difference amount UNDER INVOICE (NOT PAID but what I saved through good research and negotiation)on the basic EX-L V-6 with Navigation (not including dealer options, tax, tags, etc.). This is the primary number that most people want to know in order to determine if you actually got a good price for the basic vehicle or not. Most people make the mistake of paying way too much for the options (especially extended warranties, etc.) because they didn’t do their research and were impulsive buyers. The dealer is counting on you to make that common mistake.
#5.) $3,203 = The total amount I paid for the following OPTIONS:
$138 Splash Guards
$ 76 Wheel Locks
$125 Pinstripe
$399 Paint Matched Moldings (i.e. Fender well and door edge trim, etc.)
$587 Rear Wing Spoiler
$440 Fog Lights
$ 97 Hood Switch Kit
$ 61 Cargo Net
$980 Eight (8) year Extended Honda Care Warranty (Zero Deductible)
$300 Paint and Leather Protection Package
The above options are initially shown to the buyer at a much higher RETAIL PRICE (more than double in many cases) but it means nothing! Only the bottom line matters!
#6.) $1,539.24 = Maryland Tax and Tags
#7.) $29,804 = The total FINAL PURCHASE PRICE I PAID combining #3 + #5 + #6
Hope this helps to clarify some of the confusion I have seen in the previous discussions.
Thanks
If you find an ammortization table on the internet, you can plug in and play with the different terms on a loan (i.e. amount of loan, rate of interest, number of months for the length of the loan) and that will give you the answer that you need. Just be aware that most loans include hidden processing and document fees.
Bye for now
They are currently doing 6.35% on 60 month loans - so $29 at that rate and term would be $565.38 per month.
Dennis
Also I can get the 2.9% financing on this so that may affect the pricing.
Are you an attorney? Wow. That was quite the detailed post. A few questions? If you were buying the EX, and all those options that you listed are STANDARD why have them verify they come with the car?
Also what did you gain by having them fax it vs email. How would a fax be anymore valid than an email.
You mention that "Most people make the mistake of paying way too much for the options"..."The dealer is counting on you to make that common mistake."
I believe you made this same mistake with your vehicle purchase. While I'm sure you paid less than the "Retail Price" for these options, you still paid way too much. For example, here are the prices you paid, versus the prices I found from several sources...
$138 Splash Guards - $55
$ 76 Wheel Locks - $30
$125 Pinstripe - probably costs dealer ~$50/car
$399 Paint Matched Moldings - $55 (fender), $45 (door)
$587 Rear Wing Spoiler - $329
$440 Fog Lights - $219
$ 97 Hood Switch Kit - couldn't find
$ 61 Cargo Net - $32
$980 Eight year Extended Honda Care Warranty - good price
$300 Paint and Leather Protection Package - could have spend $50 on premium car car products and got much better results than the dealer Mop & Glow
http://www.accessories-honda.com/store/index.php?cPath=21
http://www.handa-accessories.com/accord06.html
http://www.hondapartsdeals.com/index.php?cName=accord-20062007-accord
Drop me an email I'm in MPLS and have been looking to buy..I would like to hear who u have talked to here in the Twin Cities. I have been looking as far as Chicago and have a few dealer names lined up ready to email. Drop me an email you can find it under my profile if you prefer to talk off the boards.
Check the install instructions on even the cheap cargo net - you need 3 different sized drill bits and a 26mm hole saw (I don't think I have the latter item in my tool box at all). Same is true for the fog lights - you have to cut the front bumper cover with a utility knife (one slip and there go all your savings) and run the wiring from the front of the car to the interior and mount the switch. Probably beyond the abilities of most owners and for sure something most would not want to try even if they knew what to do.
Shipping is also not included in your prices, is it? That can add up too.
So yes, negotiate the prices on this stuff the same as the car - to get the best/lowest price, but you really can't compare online prices w/o shipping or installation on some of these items with the price installed at the dealer.
The rip-off "paint and leather protection" should never be purchased, the same with most pinstripes. The things you can install your self (wheel locks) you can always get later.
Dennis
She wanted a cargo net, but the dealer price was high. We didn't check the install instructions before she purchased the car (but we did before we ordered it for $30) - you need a "rivnut" tool and have to do some drilling to install it. I think one or two of the online accessory places will loan you the tool for a nominal fee, but needless to say she still does not have a cargo net in her Civic... yet.
Dennis
I received quotes from dealers that listed "No Charge" for some of the options I asked for but their bottom line was still substantially padded elsewhere. If they still have a ton of money in the deal somewhere else (over invoice) then what difference does it make WHAT they are charging you for that particular option or all the options together ON PAPER? It's all bait and switch! Make it look pretty over here (in the options department) but screw you over there ("pay no attention to that fool behind the curtain"). I'll bet if you go to enough sources (and you went to several) you may eventually find one of each optional item I listed as "FREE of charge" or "NO charge" by some dealer somewhere. But it's still the bottom line that counts. What you conveniently failed to mention about my explanation is when I said "The above options are initially shown to the buyer at a much higher RETAIL PRICE (more than double in many cases) BUT IT MEANS NOTHING! ONLY THE BOTTOM LINE MATTERS!" It's not important WHERE they put their profit ON PAPER (they have to make SOMETHING on the deal or it's NO DEAL). I was just explaining HOW "they" (my particular dealership where I purchased the vehicle from) eventually listed the pricing for the options on MY particular purchase agreement to arrive at the bottom line that I agreed to BEFORE they did the paperwork. They can shuffle the numbers around all they want and in any fashion they want but I'm still only paying $27,284.76 (not including tax and tags) WITH ALL THE OPTIONS I SELECTED! Here's YOUR challenge: You show me someone who bought the same identical car in the same identical state (Maryland) for $1,565.24 UNDER invoice and ALSO PAID WHAT YOU LISTED for each of the options . . . THEN I'LL BE IMPRESSED AND ALL SHOOK UP ABOUT IT (which is your obvious jealous intent). Show me a "purchase price" under $27,284.76 (not including tax and tags)for a NEW 2007 EX-L V-6 AT w/Navigation (no mileage) WITH those options and I'll be devastated to your complete satisfaction. Taking the lowest price from one source you found on a particular option over here and the lowest price you found on another particular option from another source over there and lumping them all together doesn't add up to nothing but a FUTILE ATTEMPT TO BUY A CAR (stop dreaming). IF you show me a NEW (no mileage) 2007 EX-L V-6 AT with Navigation WITHOUT ANY OPTIONS AT ALL for a purchase price SUBSTANTIALLY below $25,061.76 (not including tax and tags) THEN I will get all bent out of shape over it for, JUST FOR YOU, and complete your day When you do find it, I'll give you my fax number so you can send over the purchase order and rub my nose in it real good! As for the $300 Mop and Glow. Knock yourself out Dude!
You are correct, the prices I cited do not include the cost of labor.
However, the majority of these options (splash guards, wheel locks, moldings, cargo net, wax/scotchguard) can be installed with little effort or cost.
The only options requiring any real skill or time, as you mentioned, are the fog lights and spoiler. The price savings on the spoiler alone is $260. A friend of mine had a spoiler installed on a 2006 Accord for $50, which would still save you over $200.
And you are correct, shipping is not included in those prices.
However, in most cases you will not pay sales tax on these items (unless you live in the same state as the online company) as you would have to at the dealer, which should cover the cost of shipping.
For example, sales tax on all of the options (except extended warranty & pinstripe) would total $126 in my state (6% sales tax). Yet total shipping costs from one of these sites was less than $50, which means you would save even more money.
Wow! Judging by your post, I think you may need to lay off the caffeine! I think you've gotten a bit too worked up over my comments.
I agree with you that it's the bottom line that counts, and that was my point in the first place.
You paid about $1500 under invoice for your car, which is great, but you paid a lot more for all of your add-ons than they are worth. For the sake of argument, lets say you were overcharged $1000 on all of those options.
This effectively means you paid about $500 under invoice, after facoring in being overcharged on the add-ons. This is in line with what most in this forum are paying, if not a bit higher.
On a side note, I'm not sure why you're taking things so personally..."your obvious jealous intent", "devastated to your complete satisfaction", "rub my nose in it real good." Take some deep breaths and relax.
I can go to Texas to buy or New Mexico.
Anyone have info about Texas Accords or NM?
Thx,
I dont think Mattgg1 was trying to one-up you. He was simply trying to point out the fact that if bought online SOME of those items could have been purchased for less. Its sounds like you were very discplined and systematic in negoitating a price for your vechile. The purchase price of your car is one of the lowest I have seen. You are also correct in that people need to be careful when beliveing they recieved a good deal on the purchase price when @ the same time their getting screwed on the trade-in etc. So their so called "great deal" is anything but.
I belive Mattgg1 post was helpful as some of the items if purchased online can be bought cheaper vs. purchasing from the dealer. This may help somone else whos considering those same options save money by purchasing them online vs purchasing throuugh a dealer, which is the very information this forum strives to get out.
My only comment is that I think paying for the mop and glow is very questionable. Can't remember a savvy buyer who made that decision because it is almost pure dealer profit.
FINAL ITEM (this one's for my favorite buddy: Mattgg 1): Addressing those comments above about “I COULD GET THAT OPTION CHEAPER SOMEWHERE ELSE AND INSTALL IT MYSELF” (i.e. wheel locks, etc.). Get your tools (which cost money) and use up your time (MY time is money) and RISK screwing up a 30K car investment (or advise some else to screw up their investment) by UNPROFESSIONALY installing a rear wing spoiler (or even a simple cargo net) or anything else that suits you. But, when I pick up MY car, it will ALL BE DONE and done perfectly and professionally. HERES THE KICKER: I WILL ALSO HAVE A MANUFACTURERS WARRANTY THAT COVERS EVERY SINGLE OPTION PUT ON MY VEHICLE BY THE DEALER. You however, and your DO-IT-YOURSELF buddies will have Diddly for a warranty! Dang, that caffeine’s got a good kick to it. Don’t it?
Many thanks to those of you (past and future) who made very clear “positive” comments about my detailed post. I hope to have helped others save money too.
Bye for now