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amount for a new car purchased in the zip code of the potential buyer.
Car dealers in CA have a $29.00 "electronic filing fee" that
is not a DMV fee. It is just another deceptive sales technique
used to add additional profits to the car dealer. They are quick
to remove it upon request.
thanks
I think I did pretty well, what do you think...purchased New Year's Eve
I wound up at Anderson Honda in MD. $21,821 OTD with the following options: accent stripe, fender well trim & door edge guards, spash guards and wheel locks. Here I the cost breakdown:
Sale Price: 20330 (including destination)
Dealer Processing: $0
MD Tax (6%): 1219
Title: $100
Lien Filing: $20
Registration: $128
Electronic Title: $20
Tire Recycling: 4
OTD: $21821
Financed through my Credit Union at 1.99%
This helps make it easier to compare exact prices. We
are in California and can compare the sales price less MD fees.
thanks
brian
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
Thank you,
I called about almost every dealer in NJ that day and to be honest Autosport did not even want to give me a quote over the phone. They said I needed to come in to get a price, I live about 2 miles from them and test drove the car there, so I figured I'll give it a shot. By the way the car is automatic and came with all the standard features for sport model.
I did have to leave the dealer to get my financing in order, since they originally did not want to match my 2.2 from Bank of America, they called back an hour later.
Thanks for all the tips you posted on this blog, I've been following for the last month or so.
P.S this was a first time for me buying from a dealer, might have been a beginners luck.
This was no luck. Its called good timing and knowing when to buy and having the most leverage in the negotiations... By following what i was saying and appling it.... just goes to show that a newbie like your self pulled off a monster deal. the last day of any month is when dealers will give you there best price. I still think you bought the sport that was missing a door...LOL
Your lucky in one aspect... You walked into Autosport Honda they are a great dealership. Like i posted earlier... I have purchased from them in the past and can honestly say ONE OF The better dealers in New Jersey. But you still must know how to play the game to get that price..
Here is a couple more dealers in new jersey who i would recomend for good pricing. YOu cant expect to get these dealers best price on Jan 8th or 18th. always try to make your best deal at months end/// last days/ last day..
Paul Miller.............. Internet staff is very good. Internet Mgr Mike is on his game... like Autosports Manager ......Kerry
DCH Paramus......Very competitive pricing.
Joyce Honda..............High doc fee's $399 looking to sell cars i like them
DCH OldBridge...........Doc fee 299 ... good dealership
Hamilton....................Doc fee 249..... good dealership/ internet dept..
Garden State........... Heard some good things about them
Metro honda............ they will surprise you sometimes. gotta be firm with them.
Planet honda......... high doc fee's $398. they claim to match offers
Hope this helps
Brian
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
New to Edmunds and I really appreciate all the information you all have provided. I'm thinking about buying a 2013 Accord EX-L V6 W/Navi and wanted to ask you for some feedback.
Those who have purchased this car what do you think about it? Pros & Cons?
The best purchase price if possible. I'm in Los Angeles, California
thank you all for your responce.
Regards,
Elite
I think $27,200 for a 2013 accord EX-L V6 without NAV (with wheel lock and mud guards) is a good deal ! What was the TTL fee they quoted you? May I ask for the name of this honda dealer and name of the salesperson? When was this offer made to you in 2012 or 2013?
The best offer I got in Indiana and was only good for one day on Jan2nd was:
. $28,000 for the car (include destination fee),
. Add $345 for the following installed options/accessories: Splash Guard, All Season Mats, Body Side Molding, and Trunk Tray)
. Two Free oil changes
. 7% Indiana tax on the
. $151.25 document fee$
. a $400 gift card (year-end enticing) was still honored if I took the deal on Jan 2nd.
Welcome to the world of supply and demand. You want that car you will have to over pay.. No dealer in there right mind would give you a deal on that vehicle. So my suggestion is Pay the extra $$$ or buy the cvt auto..
brian
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
Bernardi Honda - 25,500
Commonwealth Honda 25,700
Honda North - 25,900
Honda Gallary - 25,800.
Good luck you guys. it's easy to get the car for about 3,000 below the invoice.
I posted a reply earlier on the best price I got amongst several honda dealerships in Central Indiana for a 2013 accord EX-L V6 no navigation, but with options. It was a year-end deal for $28,000 for car, plus $345 for extras (installed splash guards, Body side molding, all season mats, Trunk Tray) and $151.25 document fee; and get a $400 Visa gift card in return.
I didn't take this offer because at the time (Jan 2nd), I wanted to trade-in my 1996 Camry LE to offset the OTD price. Dealer only gave me $1000 trade-in allowance, which is way below KBB price and below the price that I wanted. Since then, the dealer had increased the price to $28,000 for the car, $597.22 for the options, and no more gift card.
So, I am still in the search for a best deal for the car.
Could you provide the name of dealership in Cincinnati Ohio that offers you this price? ($27,200 for car and splash guards & wheel lock). Could you also provide the TTL that they quoted you? As Brian posted in this forum, the dealer use document fee, registration fee, and other fees as part of the OTD price to increase their profit.
Thanks!
Brian
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
Thank you for your experience and knowledge that has helped
everyone learn more about buying a car.
Finally, we found Hanlees Toyota (SAC CA) fleet dept. manager Dave to
sell us a 2012 Camry LE for 19,000$ plus fees. No PD. This is the net
cost after the 1,000$ rebate from Northern California. This rebate
is not available in Southern CA.
The bad news is I rented the 2012 Camry on a trip and was disapointed.
It had a lot of noise, did not handle that well, and the seats were
very uncomfortable. Their are other factors too.
A priority is the seat comfort. The new 2013 Altima has very comfortable
seats. Also, more leg room than the Camry and Accord.
The 2013 Accord has enough leg room, but the foot rest protrudes
much higher than the Altima and Camry. The Altima designers also
used the previous Camry rear end style that I do not like.
After knowing these priorities could you make a case for the Altima?
Your input is greatly appreciated. Also, the Altima has standard
Key fob
36mo./36k roadside service
PD seat standard
CVT
What is the lowest prices in California for Honda Accords?
Thanks again for your participation in the forum.
:confuse:
I hear what your saying. I'm 6'1 and 240. My number one concern is seat and size comfort. I think in my opinion the Accord is pound for pound better overall than the Altima.
The Accords CVT auto is said to be better than altima.. The New altima reviews all say it handles much better than Accord ,Camry, malibu, Passat. Gas mpg are close, tech features close. that being said only your resale value will be better if you buy the Accord. Better pricing is avail on the Altima.
Bottom line ...............Both cars are a nice buy. The Camry Failed on the front safety crash. I would not put my familys lives in danger no matter what the saving are til problem is corrected...
Glad i helped you
Brian
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
Here is the other part of the equation.
Edmunds sent me a 750.00$ Visa card offer if i buy the 2013 Altima
before Feb. 2, 2013. Still a little skeptical about the Visa Card. Also, their is a 500$ rebate that CAN be combined with the 750$. It probably
has a 24 hr. use it or lose it clause. My priority was also the resale difference
between Honda vs. Nissan.
What is the difference in price between the 2013 Accord LX and the
2013 Altima S?
Is their a price point on the 2 vehicles you would be a buyer, and what
dealerships in So. or No. CA would you recommend?
thanks
Accord.. You could call capital one auto i'm sure they have the answer..
Live in New York cant say who's good in C.A. If you apply buying like i said you will have your answer on best dealers and pricing.
Brian
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
Read the user reviews of both cars here on Edmunds. I think you'll find that there are a lot of problems already with the new Altima. I would stay away from that car. Read the new Accord customer reviews and they are pretty glowing.
Curious because I had an agreement on a 2013 Mazda 6 sport automatic for 17653 OTD in PA and I am wondering if it was worth the shot vs paying between 21500-22k for an accord. Any suggestions help thanks
What forum discussion category are the 2013
Honda Accord glowing? The categories I found
did not seem to be glowing.
thanks
The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
There will always be the nagging question in the back of your mind did you make a mistake by not going with the Accord is going to make you very unhappy as the months tick by. Your actions show me that you want the Accord, so...BUY THE ACCORD and don't look back.
The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
I saw someone in MD got one lx cvt for 21.8k and change, so it might be a good sign that prices are going down a little. Hopefully i can get another great deal, thanks again.
In early December, I was looking only at 2013 Sonata GLS only. I was able to get an offer lower than $18,750 before TTL but the travel cost to get the car significantly nullified the difference. However, after seeing the IIHS 2013 safety tests (Dec 20, 2012), I am kind of worried about Sonata 2013. It got only Top Safety Pick and not Top Safety Pick Plus. In the small overlap test, it's scores were lower than Accord 2013. The most worrying thing is the fact that side curtain air bags did not open.
It appears that Honda engineers (Nissan engineers for their Altima 2013 and others) knew about the new test and modified their 2013 design accordingly. However, in the case of Sonata 2013, it is primarily based on 2011 design and hence, it missed the mark. The Sonata may score better in their next model (2014 design). I am surprised to see Optima 2013 based on late 2011 design getting Top Safety Pick Plus (and not Sonata). However, Optima has a slightly lower score than Accord 2013. The significant difference is the fact that it's side curtain bags opened unlike Sonata. BTW: Camry 2013 has the worst IIHS ratings compared to these three cars.
However, in the case of NHTSA tests, Accord 2013 and Sonata 2013 are very similar.
It appears that some are getting 2013 Accord LX (Auto) between $21,000 and $22,000 OTD (in various states with tax ranging from 6 to 9%). The offer that I have on a 2013 Sonata GLS with PEP is about $19,900 OTD (after 6% tax). I am planning to keep the car for a long time.
2013 Accord LX Advantages ($21,000 and $22,000 OTD in various states with tax ranging from 6 to 9%):
1. Better engine. Honda engines are known for their reliability. But, what about CVT ?
2. Better gas mileage - 27/36 vs 24/35 (If I keep the car for about 10 years, then I could save about $2000 !)
3. Better safety (IIHS 2013 Top Safety Pick Plus)
4. Better resale value (It may not affect me, since, I am planning to keep it for a long time)
5. Rear view camera
6. Hill Assist
2013 Sonata GLS with PEP Advantages ($19,900 OTD after 6% tax):
1. Longer warranty
2. Better style
3. Fog lights
4. Heated front seats
5. Heated side mirrors
6. Power seat with lumbar support
7. Auto dimming mirror
8. 6 speakers vs 4 speakers
9. Garage door opener (Home Link auto dimming mirror)
10. Lower price (about $1000 - $2000).
11. Front legroom is 45.5 in vs 42.5 in and headroom is 40 in vs 39.1 in (I am 6 ft 4 in and hence Sonata would be better)
12. Additional accessories (all-weather mats, cargo net, rear bumper protector, and wheel locks)
13. 8 air bags vs 6 air bags - NEED TO BE VERIFIED (Can someone confirm this ?)
Accord's better gas mileage could nullify the price difference, if I keep the car for a long time, provided Accord's shorter warranty will not give me huge repair bills. I don't mind loosing some features and style for improved safety ratings. If I haven't come across IIHS 2013 tests, I would have bought Sonata 2013 without any second thought. Am I giving too much importance to the IIHS 2013 test results ?
Any comments. Thanks in advance.
Only God and time will tell whether one will be better than the others. All I can say that I always see Hondas going over the 150k mark and 200k is not out of the question.
Hyundais, Mazdas, Kias? I am yet to see one and I am 33 now. Perhaps there are and never met someone, but Toyota and honda are the best. But is your choice and hope you make the best out of the choice you make.
1. the Camy has some kind of lip projecting outward above the ignition. I found it almost impossible to avoid hitting this with my knee when getting in, & the driving position left knee within an inch or 2 of this lip.
2. Push the seat all the way back in the Altima, which I have to do in that & pretty much all vehicles, & then try to get in the back behind that seat. I was unable to do so. If you'll never have a tall passenger in the back, then no problem, but if you may some day...
Also, note that the back up camera screen in the Altima is flat on the dash, exposing it to considerable glare, as opposed to the covered screen in the Accord, which is also 2x larger.
And the styling of the Camry & the Altima - bleah. To put that into context, I find the Sonata, Accord, & Optima all attractive, in that order.
I know this is off topic for this forum, but wanted to respond to the thread. I posted my pricing info last month, & it looks like up to 3 folks have beaten my price so far - $25,840 including dealer add-ons & destination, before TTL, for the EXL 4r dr I4, at Love Honda in Crystal River in FL. $27,510 OTD, including sales tax of 6%.
But, bottom line is that most reviewers think the Honda Accord is overall the best-in-class car at this point.
You'll probably pay a little more for an Accord, but I think it'll be worth it in the long run.
I currently own a Mazda5 and a 2008 Honda Accord EXL navi. Different cars, I know, and I paid more for the Honda. Both are good, but really no comparison. The Honda is a better car in almost every way. I can see and feel the superior engineering and materials in the Honda every time I drive. The Honda is our favorite car, and my wife and I argue with good humor about who gets the "good" car that day.
And the 2013 Accord is a major leap forward over the 2008. I'm looking forward to getting one at some point.
Specifically comparing the Sonata and the Accord, I think the visibility in the Accord is much better.
http://www.cresthonda.com/specials/new.htm
2013 Honda Accord 2.4 LX FWD Sedan
MSRP $23,270
True Price $20,792
This is the model I want;
2013 EXL navi 4 cylinder:
MSRP
$30,785
Dealer Discount
$1,864
True Price
$28,921
You are correct. Their is less room on the Camry passenger side. It
is not a deal breaker because i will be driving 99.9% of the time.
An interesting characteristic about the 2013 accord is the
drivers side foot rest on the left side. It is much thicker
than the foot rest on the Camry and yields less net drivers
foot space.
After sitting in the drivers seat of both cars i realized
their was not enough room in the Accord because of this thicker
foot rest.
I was leaning toward the Accord but this larger left
foot rest is a huge factor. Sit in both cars and you will
feel the difference. The accord extra inch of leg room is negated
because you cannot stretch out your left leg.
Anyone notice this besides me?
Great point Willy
thanks