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2013 and Earlier - Hyundai Sonata Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • internet quoted a radiant silver limited w/ ipod cable, wheel locks and cargo mats @ $23,241. Another dealer offered to match the price. Should I be looking to go a lot lower? any effective head-to-head negotiating tactics?

    I also received quotes on LTDs with nav at 26,210
  • clublosclublos Posts: 1
    My deal on Sunday 3/28/10:

    $327 including tax
    2001 Hyundai Sonata Limited
    Black on black leather
    Loaded except Navigation
    36 months
    12k miles a year
    Sign and drive
    Dealer makes last lease payment of $465 to Nissan
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    My deal on Sunday 3/28/10:

    $327 including tax
    2001 Hyundai Sonata Limited :P
    Black on black leather
    Loaded except Navigation
    36 months
    12k miles a year
    Sign and drive
    Dealer makes last lease payment of $465 to Nissan


    Don't worry; we're not jealous.

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  • internet quoted a pacific blue pearl limited with navigation today for $25,610

    I'm not convinced the nav is all that important to me, but the closer the numbers get the more attractive it appears
  • midas69midas69 Posts: 118
    Don't worry; we're not jealous.

    Really, could have bought a new one for that kind of money
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,962
    You guys are hard on the typos... :surprise:

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  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    edited May 2010
    Just good-natured ribbing, s'all. :)

    I'd never dish what I couldn't, or what I wouldn't expect, to take. :shades:

    It's Friday - pardon the perkiness on my part.
  • Internet quoted a Limited w/ nav for $22,525...on my way to check it out!
  • ral2167ral2167 Posts: 642
    must be a 2001
  • jsmit86jsmit86 Posts: 116
    Good luck with that price! It's about 3k better than the best deals posted.
  • hyundai2011hyundai2011 Posts: 15
    too good to be true. Did you check out? Please update us.
  • talk about a bait and switch...he actually quoted me a 2009 and called it a "computer glitch." Revised quote for a real life, confirmed VIN car w/ nav: $25,375

    anyone know if the residual for limited w/ nav is still the same as limited (58%)?
  • jsmit86jsmit86 Posts: 116
    Sorry about the bait and switch, but $25,375 is still outstanding assuming that this is actually a Limited with Nav.
  • thanks - I have 3 different dealers offering me a similar price for a limited w/ nav (25,395, 25,610 and 25,375), so I figure it's possible to go lower. I have confirmed these are actual cars...
  • crightoncrighton Posts: 4
    "thanks - I have 3 different dealers offering me a similar price for a limited w/ nav (25,395, 25,610 and 25,375), so I figure it's possible to go lower. I have confirmed these are actual cars"

    Wow - this is very strange. No one has been able to come anywhere near prices like that for a Limited with Nav. What state are you in?
  • abigmuttabigmutt Posts: 37
    Good News and Bad News !
    "Your car (that you ordered 3 months ago) is coming in at the end of May !!"

    yes, I was excited to FINALLY be getting my Red Limited with Nav.
    The dealer had refused to take a deposit but kept reassuring me that eventually one would be allocated to him and that the price would be more or less my firm quoted price: $26,230.
    More than what I keep seeing here on this forum, but ...... what the heck, it's southern california and cars are always more expensive here.

    But ........ the email that followed stated that the owner was no longer discounting any cars with Nav, since they're so difficult to get, and the price was going to be ..... $28,360.

    Wow! talk about low-balling me !!! the price just jumped by $2,130 after I've waited almost 3 months for my specific request to be coming in !! The sales manager was very apologetic but nothing he could do about it. He said that meanwhile I was waiting, some other customers had also requested that same car and they were willing to pay the full price.

    He kept reassuring me for the past few months that I was top of the list for this car, even though he had others also interested. "Don't worry, you're first on the list for when we get the car directly from Hyundai." He had offered to try to obtain it from another dealer, but admitted it would cost more that way.

    So ..... there's my story of the ol' bait and switch low-balling. I am mostly angry with myself for believing this [non-permissible content removed] all this time. We all know that car dealers are the lowest form of salespeople on earth, right? Nothing has changed; I just got suckered because of my stupidity.

    I feel like going out and buying a Ford Fusion (my second choice).

    (hey, does anyone know if a Calif. Emissions Certified car can be bought from out-of-state dealers?)

    Rick
  • jsmit86jsmit86 Posts: 116
    edited May 2010
    Actually there is something that they could do.... honor their price! The fact that others are willing to pay more is not really relevant.

    Did you have anything in writing? (That would be helpful) Did you make a commitment to them? Remember that commitments/contracts are a 2 way street.

    If not, politely ask them to honor their verbal contract with you. (or at least split the difference, which if you had no skin in the game is reasonable at this point)

    If they refuse, ask if they prefer that you will file a complaint with the BBB, Hyundai, and the California AG.

    If they do honor their price (or a reasonable compromise), tell them that there will be glowing reviews on the surveys, and your postings on the internet.
    If not, spread the word.

    Without something written, and with no "Consideration" i.e. a deposit, this is a Hail Mary.
    It's a long shot, but it may be worth a try.
  • truelies1truelies1 Posts: 34
    Interesting to see someone want to pay more money for a Hyundai. In such a bad economy, I don't believe a car can be sold higher than MSRP unless it's really Limited.
  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,364
    There is way to much buying frenzy related to the sonata limited. Better to let things settle down or buy out of state. All cars are cal. ok. There are a ton of gls's at the local dealer. The car doesn't seem to appeal to budget buyers. Everyone wants a Ltd.
  • chronochrono Posts: 149
    I'm actually really interested in a base GLS. What deals are everyone getting? Hoping ther e is some small incentives this summer.
  • chuck1919chuck1919 Posts: 176
    To buy a car out of state you have to look at the sticker under the hood of the car. It reads something like as follows:

    This vehicle meets Federal emissions standards for sale in all states INCLUDING California.

    Keep in mind that California's standards are tougher than the Federal standards. Also, most cars shipped to the Western States usually will be certified for sale in California. (Cars from Arizona, Nevada, etc.) But it must say California on the sticker underneath the hood.
  • hyundai2011hyundai2011 Posts: 15
    I am planning to buy 2011 sonata limited with navigation. There are more than 5 dealers within 30 miles from my place. However, they don't have it in stock. I found that a dealer approx.100 miles from my place has it in stock. Sorry to post a dumb question: Is it ok to buy the car from him? Do I have to go to the same dealer for any warranty service related issue. or Can I go to any other dealers and expect good service from them even though i did not buy the car from them?
  • truelies1truelies1 Posts: 34
    Yes. You can, you also can do warranty in any dealers in US. I wish you can get a good price since no dealers have it. Maybe they will do MSRP+$5000?
  • hyundai2011hyundai2011 Posts: 15
    Thanks. I got a quote for $26,300. I hope it is a reasonable price & it is not 'bait and switch'. I am going to visit the dealer this weekend. The sales person told me that he will honor the price for any sonata 2011 limited with navigation in case the car I am interesed in is sold by then..
  • abigmuttabigmutt Posts: 37
    edited May 2010
    I was waiting for MY Ltd w/Nav for almost 3 months; when it came in my dealer jacked the price up more than 2 grand, from what he'd quoted me IN WRITING months earlier and was confirming all throughout my wait.
    So if you got a quote of $26,300 for that car, I would not wait, I'd RUN down to the dealer and snap it up.
    We all know the reputation of car dealers, right?
    well, nothing has changed over the years: they're still a bunch of lying weasels who will say anything to make a sale.
    Now they've noticed that Ltds w/Nav are somewhat tight in parts of the country, they're jacking prices WAY up, and not honoring their previous quotes.
    I really hope that you're not being low-balled, but I wouldn't wait until the weekend to find out.
    26,300 is a steal right now. I would be willing to pay $1,000 MORE than that for an Ltd w/Nav.
  • abigmuttabigmutt Posts: 37
    edited May 2010
    This post is posted under Buying Experiences because I'm having horrible experiences here in Southern California and am thinking about going out of state to buy.
    Does anyone know anything about emissions compliancy???

    Are the cars that come to California manufactured differently than those to other states and countries? that's how it used to be, but I keep hearing California dealers say that they buy & swap for cars that were delivered (or headed for) other states, like Arizona and Oregon.

    So where can I find info about this? I want to buy a Hyundai in .... say, the north-east, pick it up there and drive to visit relatives there, then come back to California with it.

    any thoughts?
  • jsmit86jsmit86 Posts: 116
    abigmutt -

    Did you actually commit to buy the car?
  • abigmuttabigmutt Posts: 37
    To jsmit86:

    Well, I "commited to buy the car" to the extent that they let me.

    The day they emailed me the price quote, I wrote back and said "Okay, when you get a red Ltd w/Nav I'll take it. May I leave a deposit?"
    Every week there were several emails back and forth between us: me asking about leaving a deposit, asking about estimated delivery time; they kept replying with emails about how they were still searching for my car, etc. I kept reminding them every week, for 3 months, that I was still waiting. They kept saying that THEY were still waiting to receive that model/color, etc.
    At one point I asked how I could ensure that the first such car they got would be mine, and they wrote to say that I was 1st on the list and that another customer also wanted the same car but he was number two;
    Stuff like that.
    Lots & lots of affirmative indicators that I was looking to them to supply me the car .... eventually, when it finally was allocated to them.
    At one point they said that if I wanted to pay a bit more they could see if they can get one from out of state, but that I'd have to pay more because of extra transportation charges. I said No, I'll just wait until you get one allocated to your dealership.
    I was not in any urgent hurry and so actually could afford to wait a few months.
    They kept reassuring me that eventually one would be delivered to them.

    So ....... if you think that what I described above is "committing" to the deal, then I guess I did.
    But I'm sure they would just say that since there was no formal contract or deposit (even though I did offer to do both of those things) that they're not obligated to sell this car to me now.
    The sales manager seemed apologetic about the owner now wanting to get two grand more for every Ltd w/Nav that comes in; he is obviously caught in between the customers and the dealership's decision-maker.

    Rick
  • jsmit86jsmit86 Posts: 116
    Ok - legally, it's probably a gray area, but if they in fact told you that you would get the car they should honor their price. If not, that is deceptive, if not illegal.

    You, in fact waited for them. You could have purchased elsewhere, and now the prices have gone up.

    Try a couple of the suggestions from my earlier post. You also should ask to talk to the owner. If he won't honor the quote, I'd offer to split the difference. If he says no, say, you'd really prefer not to have to contact the AG, HMA, or file a claim in small claims court....if he still says no, frankly, you are better off not dealing with this guy. I understand supply and demand, but they took you out of the market.

    By the way,,, reply with the Dealer Name and location... if they do right by you, post here! If they don't do right by you let everyone know.
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