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Mazda6 Sedan

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  • aromasaromas Member Posts: 314
    I had a 1990 MX-6 and the seats were great too. I hope they do install velour, had that in my Subaru and felt comfortable and very easy to brush off dirt.

    The Mazda rep stated that there was no way he would give me the same seats and then proceeded to take pictures because he said he would have to make a case to head office to get a new material which he expects to be approved. Funny thing is if H.O. were to refuse does that mean I get the same seats? Would seem counterproductive because I can't see this lousy fabric holding up. I also mentioned to the dealer that if I wanted leather then labor should be free since they have to put new seats in anyway. He said he would get back to me on that one. Geez I hope they run out of Proteges when they give me a loaner and I get a RX-8 instead for the day. I may never bring it back.
  • buggywhipbuggywhip Member Posts: 188
    The Mazda6 has been in short supply in some areas lately b/c Mazda severely cut production of the car, due to lackluster sales.

    http://www.detnews.com/2003/autosinsider/0308/06/autos-235372.htm

    It is as I feared. Mazda can't compete with the Honda/Toyo juggernauts--at least not with their aggressive discountings.
  • newcar31newcar31 Member Posts: 3,711
    Even if Mazda had sold the # of Mazda6s that they wanted to this year in the US, they still wouldn't have been "competing" with Honda or Toyota.
  • timadamstimadams Member Posts: 294
    >>Even if Mazda had sold the # of Mazda6s that they wanted to this year in the US, they still wouldn't have been "competing" with Honda or Toyota. <<

    Yeah, but they were expecting to sell 75,000 6s per year, but they only sold 18,000 from Jan-May 2003, which would extrapolate to only 44,000 for an entire model year. I got this figure from http://www.autosite.com/editoria/asmr/svsedan.asp. Does anyone have any other sales figures to compare this to?

    Mazda wasn't exactly expecting to match unit sales with the Accord or Camry, but they are far under their own target. This is not a slam on the quality or worthiness of the 6, by the way. The 6 is still on my shopping list, whereas the Accord and Camry are both crossed off.
  • cookie01cookie01 Member Posts: 369
    I took the M6 in yesterday for the two recalls. Walking out the back of the lot (to catch the train to work) I saw THREE 8's!! Beautiful! One was Red, the other yellow and one on a side lot with the delivery tape stuff still on it that was a smoky sort of grey. More gunmetal than the grey on my M6. They also had a selection of M6 sports (can't tell if they were s or i, too far away)
    Also on the lot was the new MVP, and yes, I think it's a nice looking minivan, but doesn't even come CLOSE to the new Nissan Quest, now THAT'S a minivan!!!
    Anyway, in Beaverton, seems you can still get a 03 M6 with little problem.
  • newcar31newcar31 Member Posts: 3,711
    "Yeah, but they were expecting to sell 75,000 6s per year, but they only sold 18,000 from Jan-May 2003, which would extrapolate to only 44,000 for an entire model year."

    My point was that it should come as no surpise that Mazda "can't compete with the Honda/Toyo juggernauts" even if they the 6 had sold as planned in the US. 75,000 Mazda6s sold in the US would have been considered a success for Mazda, but would still not even been close to Accord or Camry sales.
  • seafseaf Member Posts: 339
    I think Mazda6 is getting more from word-of-mouth exposure than any mainstream media attention. People just tune out commercials these days. Whereas forums like this and positive magazine reviews are probably starting to get people to consider the Mazda6 along with their usual Camrys, Accords, and Altimas. A lot of people still misunderstand the 6 as being a updated version of the 626. Just remember that Toyota & Honda didn't get to where they are today overnight, or after only 1 generation. With the introduction of the Mazda6, RX-8, new MPV, and soon Mazda3, it'll bring even more awareness to the Mazda brand.
  • carguy58carguy58 Member Posts: 2,303
    Even though Toyota sells alot of cars the young people do not want a Toyota. Toyota's average age buyer is 47 which is the highest average age buyer of any of its Japanese Rivals: Honda, Mazda, or Nissan and even throw Hyundai in there. Unless Toyota makes more sportier cars in the future they can be in danger of becoming in 10 years like GM was in the 90's where nobody wanted a GM car.

    Mazda's main compeition for sales is Hyundai, Nissan and even Subaru. Mazda will never match Honda in sales in the US.

    04 MPV: is Mazda coming out with a new redesigned MPV I haven't heard about yet?

    Mazda's hope is to sell 300,000 cars a year not 1 million plus like Honda and Toyota do. Mazda will probably sell like 245,000 cars this year to do the Protege being in its last year of bodysyle. Last year in 02 the 626 was in its last year of bodystyle so Mazda sales did drop from 01 totals.
  • audia8qaudia8q Member Posts: 3,138
    since the MZ6 launch...there has only been one month (first month) that the car has not been our best selling mazda model...
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    Do you have a break-down of sales by model for 2003?

    Dinu
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Member Posts: 1,583
    *rushes to MPV forum to check it out*
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    of the new MPV?

    fowler3
  • chikoochikoo Member Posts: 3,008
    "The fin itself isn't ridged at all, so you can't place your hand on it when closing the trunk lid for fear that you might snap it. You have to remain conscious of the fact you could easily damage it and remember to slip your hand between the fin and lid to close it."

    http://www.edmunds.com/new/2003/mazda/6/100195195/roadtestarticle- .html?articleId=100173&editorialpage=page001&tid=edmunds.- e.longterm.content...Mazda*
  • aromasaromas Member Posts: 314
    Don't use the spoiler to close the trunk if you plan to slam the trunk as hard as you can!

    Is there such a thing as a nice-looking minivan?
  • chikoochikoo Member Posts: 3,008
    i dont use the spoiler to shut the trunk, and NO I dont bang any door of my car, ever.

    but what is this "ridge" thing he is talking about. curious.
  • seafseaf Member Posts: 339
    Anyone know what kind of glass is on the Mazda6? I assume it's laminated front windshield, and tempered & slightly green tinted on the sides and rear. But I'm not exactly sure, the window etchings only show some acronyms and numbers.
  • audia8qaudia8q Member Posts: 3,138
    I posted the percentage breakdowns of our mz6 sales apx a month ago, scroll back and take a look....its been running consistant most of the year.

    I have not seen the nationwide breakdown for the year, yet.
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    "Is there such a thing as a nice-looking minivan?"

    Is there such a thing as a nice looking SUV, one might ask?

    The new Quest strikes me as a van the driver panic stopped in and the back end is pushing forward and upward because the front dived. And those skylights, man, are they going to be HOT in the summer, not to mention higher insurance costs after a hail storm.

    fowler3
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    with 50 million northerners in the dark. Took only 60 seconds page-to-page. Also fewer posts. :(

    fowler3
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    in 1977 in the North East, followed 9 months later by a big birth rate.

    fowler3
  • glideslopesglideslopes Member Posts: 431
    Let's not forget 1965. They said it would never happen again. We can send a 5,000lb bomb to within 3' of it's target from 60,000'. Why can't we have a power grid that is a notch above a dirt road?
  • buggywhipbuggywhip Member Posts: 188
    Well, despite the temporary cut in Mazda6 production, I'm now seeing A LOT of them here in MA. In fact, I see a 6 every day! The car just had a slow start and the recession hasn't helped...
  • tomcat630tomcat630 Member Posts: 854
    "Yeah, but they were expecting to sell 75,000 6s per year, but they only sold 18,000 from Jan-May 2003, which would extrapolate to only 44,000 for an entire model year"

    If you do some research, you would see that sales in June and July were way ahead of Jan-May, so the "extrapolate" theory is a wash.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Member Posts: 2,287
    I think you mean the extrapolate theory is nonsense. A wash would mean it all evens out! and it doesn't! ALL new models either take time to build sales or the sales don't improve...
  • meinradmeinrad Member Posts: 820
    "but what is this "ridge" thing he is talking about."

    He's not talking about a ridge, he's talking about the spoiler being rigid, as in stiff enough to handle the pressure of pushing down on it to close the trunk. In his review he thinks it would snap in two if you used it to close the trunk.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Member Posts: 2,329
    Get a grip. ;B
  • chikoochikoo Member Posts: 3,008
    after some look-around, I understand what that "ridged" means.

    on some cars u will see that the spoiler has a center ridge that rests(bolts) on the trunk, thus making the spoiler more "rigid" by not allowing it to flex.

    The problem is more apparent with the MZ6 since it has a hydraulic arm and requires more pressure to close than a goose hinge trunk.
  • microrepairmicrorepair Member Posts: 508
    It's quite possible the original author of the "ridge" note was referring to an engineering technique of building in stiffness to a sheet or flat structure by incorporating a raised area that acts like a supporting beam. Think of a piece of paper laid down across a gap between 2 books on a table. Not much stiffness in the paper, but yet take that paper and make a series of parallel folds so that it resembles an accordion (or the rubber boot around your stick shift) and now lay that paper across the gap with the "ridges" spanning the gap and you'll notice a significant increase in the structural strength of the paper. That's how cardboard boxes and other honeycomb structures develop such rigidity. Putting a longitudinal ridge (above or below) the spoiler would have made it much more rigid.
  • seafseaf Member Posts: 339
    Seems like we have a specialist in every subject area :)

    Maybe that's part of Mazda's goal, to get smart, well educated people to buy their cars. How else to explain the recent college grad rebate?
  • carguy58carguy58 Member Posts: 2,303
    Toyota and Nissan have them too.
  • cookie01cookie01 Member Posts: 369
    Gone are the days of the very boxy Chrysler. offerings. A van can be a great vehicle for families and much more useful than an SUV.

    That Nissan is "distinctive" IMO. I think the long roof windows will give it much needed light (especially here in the Northwest) And they come with pull covers so you can block out the sun if you want.

    I'm glad I don't need a van. I don't like driving them... no matter how much engine and stability they put in, it's still tall and rocky and on and on...

    But if I did, I would be happy to see the changes happening in the sector.
  • carguy58carguy58 Member Posts: 2,303
    I like the look of the mid to late 90's Dodge Caravan and the 00-01 MPV. The 02-03 MPV looks are alright but the refresh doesn't look as good as the original 00-01 version's of the MPV. The old Chrysler mini-vans looked good for their time. The early to mid 90's Caravans and the first one looked fresh for their time but now look dated. The mid to late 90's Caravan still holds its exterior looks well even after the new one came out. Don't like the new Caravan looks very much.
  • washdcm6erwashdcm6er Member Posts: 6
    why are we talking about minivans on a Mazda 6 message board?

    I notice a slight thump coming from my car at low speeds while turning the wheel either direction, expecially in the moments after I first start up my car. Anyone else experiencing this?
  • chikoochikoo Member Posts: 3,008
    when?
    U said slow speeds, but at what angle of the steering wheel?

    does it do thump thump thump if u keep on turning or just one thump?
  • r2s2r2s2 Member Posts: 93
    Why not simply use the concave grip provided on the inside right side of the trunk lid?
  • timadamstimadams Member Posts: 294
    "If you do some research, you would see that sales in June and July were way ahead of Jan-May, so the "extrapolate" theory is a wash."

    Can you point me to that research? What is the most current (free online) source of car sales data by model?
  • audia8qaudia8q Member Posts: 3,138
    jan-july MZ6 sales.....32,297
    current national days supply in inventory...63

    Accord days supply...56
    RSX days supply...53
    passat days supply..106

    The MZ6 days supply 30 days ago was 54 but there was a big production boost this month for year end build out. the days supply reflects this...
  • thegreatvudinithegreatvudini Member Posts: 103
    www.autosite.com/editoria/asmr.svsedan.asp

    July volume is exceptional (compared to all the other months)
  • akumazakumaz Member Posts: 65
    I'm wondering if this replacement cloth Mazda plans to use will be available in the 2004 models. I know that in most parts of the world, Mazda uses different types of cloth that (IMO) look better than that available in the U.S. That's one more reason for me to wait until the '04 model, I guess-providing it is true
  • washdcm6erwashdcm6er Member Posts: 6
    The thump occurs when I turn left or right at slow speeds...usually just occurs right after I've started the car. It is just one thump or clunk and it occurs as I'm turning, then goes away.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Member Posts: 2,287
    If it is just one clunk or thump and occurs right after you start the car, it could be the ABS system diagnostics checking the ABS...that is if you HAVE ABS...
  • chikoochikoo Member Posts: 3,008
    after u roll down the windows and Revvvvvv the engine. In fact i got so carried away in revving my mz6s in the 1st gear itself that the rev limiter had to kick in......hmmmmm
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    Could it be the starter isn't bolted down securely? Also, it could be the exhaust system kicking on startup. Think I would have it checked.

    fowler3
  • chikoochikoo Member Posts: 3,008
    of the trunk?

    because I cannot take out my hand once the trunk is closed. Ho Ho.....

    That handle is so impractical....honestly.

    regarding the spoiler check this picture out

    http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/rp/images/03lancer_oz2.jpg
  • r2s2r2s2 Member Posts: 93
    It takes a little practice, but the trunk lid is weighted nicely and if you give it a pull AND EXTRACT YOUR HAND it goes right closed.

    Of course, I've had years of experience doing this with my Passat . . .
  • kannonkannon Member Posts: 18
    We are trying to finalize whether to get the Mazda6, Passat GLS, or Honda Accord V6 LX. Since my sons will inherit the car in a few years, safety is the highest importance. Of the 3 cars, I like the Mazda6 the best but I have not see any IHS crash tests (mainly side impact that I am concerned about). Consumer Reports does not have any reliability data. So ... any words of wisdom on how to consider the Mazda6's safety and reliability??? BTW - we are looking at a Mazda6 i with SAB/Traction Control/ABS/Fog Lights. Thanks!!!
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  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    Where are the plates?

    I like how it looks silver in one pic, then silver-gold in another.

    Dinu
  • chikoochikoo Member Posts: 3,008
    certainly none in the front bumper..but I got the car from my neighboring state of New Jersey where they have front license plate. Therefore I had to plug and cap the front holes with the chrome caps
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