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Mazda6 Sedan

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  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,963
    Hertz uses letter classes as opposed to sizes and the rental companies' idea of size categories are flakey. I was supposed to get an upgrade from the "Mazda 6 or similar" and expected a Camry - just like I had the week before at the same airport counter and rental agent. Instead she offered me a Mustang. I'm holding 2 car seats: "Uhmm not gonna work." I actually chose the Optima but wound up with the Cavalier.

    National substituted a Chrylser Concord instead of the Intrepid I reserved as they had none. But they wanted to charge me more as it was a "premium car". "Ummm it's the same car."

    Avis tried to give me a Grand Am at the same price as a LeSabre. Alamo actually upgraded me from a Grand Am to a DeVille for $5/day.
  • I've just learned that this code is Camshaft Position Sensor A Circuit Range/Performance (Bank 2). The latest update by Mazda (29.2) doesn't list it as one of the "fixes". However, after ordering a third PCM.....this code too has disappeared from my car and the CEL is now off. The dealership says it can't guarantee it's fixed so we have to play the replace and wait game. This makes 6 months in a row that I have had the CEL on....for various different codes. I won't continue to visit the dealership and play the game any longer. I filed for the lemon law in Michigan last week. Today I am finally able to pick my car up after 17 days at the dealership (after I called them and threatened the attorney generals office)....only to be told to "there are no guarantees". I'm sorry Mazda but something needs to be done NOW....I KNOW I'M NOT EXPERIENCING THIS ALONE and continuing to pay the payments on a car that I don't have 4 days or more each month for the last 6.....is completely unacceptable. I hope you figure it out soon. Best of luck to the other 6 owners....
  • carguy58carguy58 Posts: 2,303
    Everybody has their won opinion Some Protege owners don't even like the 3. For me the 3 sedan is too sporty looking. Does that mean the 3 is a bad car? No. Not one car is for everybody. The Altima is already outselling the 6 so whats the difference? Nissan is offering a 1500 factory rebate On Altima.
  • chikoochikoo Posts: 3,008
    you need it more than others.
  • Well, I finally just picked up my car from the dealership after 17 days. All codes are now gone again (Including the P0346 -- still no idea what it is or where it came from -- went away with the 3rd PCM replacement). I have had update 29.2, 29.3 and the latest recall (fuel smell --1401 or something like that done). My dealership has assured me if I have any further CEL lights they will bring me a car and pick up mine....no questions asked 24/7. They have also agreed to go to the manufacturer on my behalf to get an extended warranty as I am not confident in the fixes (which is understandably so -- given the fact this is the 5th month in a row for repeat CEL's). I'll keep you all posted and let you know if this fix looks like it's going to work. Keep your fingers crossed. If that's the case, then many of you newbies won't have to experience several CEL's and visits to your dealer that some of us have over the last 10 months!!! I hope so, even with all of the problems I have to admit...I love my car!
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    all this talk about CELs and I've never had one...knock on wood. I have almost 7000 miles on my 6i. I'll probably get a CEL on my way home now that I've mentioned it....
  • This CEL thing. Some cars like mccullochb's get them a lot. I've never had one either despite all the problems I've had with engine hesitation/surging and a screwy transmission.
  • hboydhboyd Posts: 98
    Anybody have some raves about their 6's?? Does the car satisfy you? Let's put the negatives aside for a second. It's only a machine.

    Thanks,
    Martin
  • Finally, Mazda has stepped up to the plate on the rust/staining issue. Not only is Mazda notifying all owners of 2003 Mazda6's, but they are also expanding the VIN range to include all 2003s. Good job, Mazda! The following was released today:

    Subject: MAZDA6 Door Sash Surface Staining - Special Service Program (SSP) 57
    Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 08:36:25 -0800

    Mazda Motor Corporation has decided to conduct a Special Service Program to remove surface staining on the door sashes of 2003 model year MAZDA6 vehicles produced from October 2, 2002 to July 22, 2003.

    Owners of affected vehicles will be notified by first class mail beginning February 13, 2004.

    CONDITION OF CONCERN

    During assembly of some 2003 MAZDA6 vehicles, a lubricant used to ease the installation of the door weather-strip caused staining over the clear coat on the door sashes.

    2003 MAZDA6
    1YV *P80****M00348 - M57057
    October 2, 2002 to July 22, 2003

    The asterisk symbol "*" can be any letter or number.
  • mes58mes58 Posts: 21
    Interesting how this broke right after the news of the rust problem hit the press. Thank you for your work on this jstandefer!
  • I'll bite on this one. I've never had so much fun driving a car before getting my MT 6s. The handling characteristics and the power delivery are incredible. Second and Third gear are golden. Cruise in either one of those gears at around 3k RPM, and you have a ton of power with a quick stab of your foot. For mountain roads, it's all about third. Engine breaking in turns is perfect, and whenever you hit a straight, you know you could be doing 85 in a matter of seconds before having to shift to fourth if you dare to go faster. :-)

    I look forward to using freeway on-ramps. Driving along a road before the on-ramp, kick it down into 2nd to slow the car down slightly to around 30-35mph. Take the turn onto the on-ramp quick, stepping on the throttle coming out of the turn. 40..50, kick left and flick the shifter into third, 60..65..70 and you still have half the on-ramp to go. If you wanted to, you could be going 90 by the time you merge into traffic.

    Freeway driving and acceleration is also impressive. It's amazing how smooth the car feels at higher speeds. Here in Arizona, the speed limit is 75 on freeways outside of town, and cruising with traffic is no sweat. Want to pass another car? Done. Need to get around a big truck (keep them rocks away from your paint job and windshield), no problem. The wind that gathers at the front of a big-rig doesn't even phase the Mazda 6 like other cars I've been in, where you can feel the car veering away from the truck because of wind pressure.

    In short, I couldn't be happier. The Mazda 6 is an amazing vehicle. Certainly, there are other cars that perform as well as the 6, but not at the same price point and not with the level of practicality that driving a sedan gives you.

    Mike
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    "The wind that gathers at the front of a big-rig doesn't even phase the Mazda 6 like other cars I've been in"

    I can vouche for this, on a recent trip borrowing a friends Mazda6 I was doing 110MPH on rain slick turnpike passing 18 wheeler's and the car felt very planted when doing so.
  • ramped1ramped1 Posts: 159
    "I was doing 110MPH on rain slick turnpike passing 18 wheeler's and the car felt very planted when doing so."

    Wonder how well the 6's brakes will work on that wet pavement at 110 mph if something goes wrong.
  • "Anybody have some raves about their 6's?? Does the car satisfy you? Let's put the negatives aside for a second."

    I'm pretty happy, too. The car is a lot of fun to drive when your in the mood to play. It goes down rural back roads at speeds that would have other cars feeling pretty unsafe. It handles these situations with aplomb and keeps a smile on my face. Can't ask for much more than that.

    It is also comfortable when your just stuck behind slow moving traffic.

    Saw the hatchback at the auto show last week and *really* like it. Wish it was available a year ago...
  • hboydhboyd Posts: 98
    Glad to see this board showing positive feelings about the 6. I have the same feelings toward my '01 Protege ES... three years ago and now! This why I am waiting for the debut of the 6 sport wagon [sigh]. Looks like a lot of R&D went into this vehicle.

    Good to see a company standing behind their product and making things right. Sadly, mistakes were made by humans in the assembly stage and possibly some R&D.
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    I had 01 Protege ES 5sp before my 03 6i. That was a really nice car. I really like my 6, but I should've waited a little longer before I bought one.
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    of country roads! Know what you mean, that's what i found out in a test drive. Wish I was ready to trade.

    fowler3
  • r2s2r2s2 Posts: 93
    I love my 6s MT. It's not quite a 330i -- my friend's car -- but IMO it's about as close as you can get with FWD under $30K . . . and rides better. It's been trouble-free, is a blast to drive, and still gets admiring glances over a year after the car debuted.
  • ANT14ANT14 Posts: 2,687
    I've had to test drive numerous cars, and I myself dislike FWD cars, but this is definately the most neutral feeling, best handling, best responding FWD car I've driven. And it just begs to be thrown into curves, and quickly composes itself when doing so. If anything, someone might feel TOO confident with the vehicle.
  • I have a 6s MT and sound like a broken record while singing its praises. I've owned it for 8 months now. Aside from some "staining" in the right rear door sill, I have not had a single problem. The car is still tight as a vault, with zero squeaks or rattles. I don't even use the stereo, because I love to hear the engine rev. Mine is a non-sport version, and the ride/handling compromise is perfect for me. You'll find criticism on other forums about the Michelin Energy tires that come standard on the non-sport 6 and some other sedans. Well, they work just fine on this car -- makes me think the tires aren't the problem for the others!

    I compared this car to the Passat and TSX. Both have nicer interiors than the 6 (especially the Passat), but neither is as engaging to drive IMHO. I recently had the chance to drive a friend's TSX while she drove my 6. I think we both came away satisfied that we had chosen the right car.

    The 6 is not for everyone. But if you're looking for a practical sport sedan, it is an excellent choice.

    CL
  • carguy58carguy58 Posts: 2,303
    Nobody is complaning today on this board. Can I write this day down?
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Posts: 1,583
    discuss.

    (oh yeah i finally saw the 'stain' in person for the first time today, definitely NOT rust)
  • Know what guys?
    You can't really talk about winter in California. Here in Northern California, it's sunny most of the time, but still a little chilly (I know, we're a little wimpy).

    That's why I can't wait for the weather to turn nice again, so I can roll down the windows. That's when I will turn my Bose off, and really enjoy hearing the growl of my 6s. It's especially nice when merging onto highway traffic using the manu-matic shift feature. My 14-y-o son really digs it! What sweet sound!

    Now he's onto the 3 (his dream car). Earlier, his plan was to "inherit" my 6 in a couple years. Let's hope he likes the 3 more than my 6, so I can keep it longer...
    vudini
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    "Here in Northern California, it's sunny most of the time ..."

    Sure, except when it's foggy. I last time I flew into San Jose we almost got diverted to Oakland because the fog was so bad in San Jose. No fog here in NM. ;)
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    You need a bigger gas tank to get around that state. Gary are you near Albuquerque?

    fowler3
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    No, I'm not near it, I'm in it. ;)
  • Mazda6s:

    Do you know of any good scenic drives (preferably with some nice curves) in the Albuquerque area? We're going to be taking the 6 on a road trip in Arizona and New Mexico some time this summer, and we're planning to hit Albuquerque and Santa Fe for a couple of days.

    My wife and I have never been there before, so we're looking forward to it. We wanted to visit all these places in Arizona and New Mexico that we haven't been to since moving to Tucson a few years ago.

    Mike
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    Santa Fe and Tularosa!! Beautiful country!!
    Winding roads, but high altitude.

    Mike, what's the area above Santa Fe, "Eagle" or "Fire" something?

    fowler3

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  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    You want curves, we got em.

    The Enchanted Circle:
    Taos to Questa to Eagle Nest to Taos. This is fairly curvy and hilly. Stop for lunch at the Apple Tree in Taos. Yummm!

    If you want a long, scenic, very curvy road from Santa Fe to Albuquerque, this is it:
    Santa Fe to Pojoaque to Los Alamos to Jemez Springs to San Ysidro to Bernalillo to Albuquerque. You can take this route in the other direction (Albuquerque to Santa Fe) as well.

    Sandia Peak:
    If you're in Albuquerque and have some time to burn, take the road to Sandia Peak (10678 feet). This is my ultimate car test ride. Yee-haa! Head East from Albuquerque on I40, turn North on highway 14. Watch for signs to Sandia Peak or Sandia Ski Area (I forget what it says). Going up will be mostly 2nd gear, and don't overheat the brakes coming back down!

    Both of the roads to the Santa Fe and Taos Ski Areas are good drives too.
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    You're thinking of Eagle Nest and Angel Fire.
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