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Mazda6 Sedan

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  • there are several posts with a feedback e-mail address...
  • azstanazstan Posts: 74
    Maybe they are getting tired of hearing what a debacle they have created with their "options packages". Their email boxes are full and I would guess that everyone is saying something similar.
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    actually the additional package set up was planned from day one. They wanted to limit things for the launch to avoid any hic-ups. If somebody had asked me I would have been glad to tell them...but its too much fun to watch adults whining like hysterical babies. haha
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Considering how many people were/are anticipating this hot new arrival from Mazda, I can understand why they were mad at having to spend ~$5000 extra for ABS on the 6i model. Glad everything is fixed now though.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    From the test drive that Edmunds wrote, Mazda wanted the 6 to be just like their Protege, only a little bigger (as far as handling, etc.). Looks like they succeeded.

    It will be great when Mazda finally stuffs the 2.3 in the new Protege for 04. It will answer alot of peoples' complaints about a lack of power.
  • markjennmarkjenn Posts: 1,142
    Just a quick note that buyers in other forums have reported that carsdirect.com is adding in a variety of regional advertising fees and paperwork charges to their invoice prices, resulting in their invoices being $500 or so over the invoices published in places like edmunds. It still may be a good deal, but I wouldn't accept their numbers without verification. Most people, when they report $X over invoice, mean the true invoice as reported here in Edmunds, not some funny number which includes a bunch of arbitrary overhead added in.

    - Mark
  • OMG IT'S BEAUTIFUL!!!!

    ...and then it was sold.
  • wgrwgr Posts: 127
    I also have seen differences in dealer cost with carsdirect.com vs. Edmunds. Sometimes there also are differences in the MSRP amounts. What puzzles me is that, at least in the 60187 (Chicago suburb) area code, CarsDirect's purchase price is always below Edmund's TMV. It often is over $1000 difference with some cars. I do not know of anyone who has used either service to actually buy a car, so I don't know which is right. I would love to hear some feedback from actual users.
  • kenokakenoka Posts: 218
    My understanding was the it is only called the Atenza in the Japanese market and everywhere else it's the Mazda6.
  • diploiddiploid Posts: 2,286
    Yup, it's a "world car" and also known as the 6 in Europe.
  • I'm sorry if this is common knowledge, but which dealership are you at(if you can say)? I'm from CT and if I'm going to buy a new 6, I'd rather get it from a fellow enthusiast then some salesguy who isn't up-to-date on info.
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    it is the Mazda6 in Europe but everyone at Mazda referes to the non north american models as the Atenza just to sperate it from NA model...

    Racin...my email is on my profile if you want to contact me. Edmunds frowns if they think I'm prospecting on their site. lol.
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    "actually the additional package set up was planned from day one. They wanted to limit things for the launch to avoid any hic-ups. If somebody had asked me I would have been glad to tell them...but its too much fun to watch adults whining like hysterical babies. haha"

    I'm just curious, when did you find out about this plan?
  • ashutoshsmashutoshsm Posts: 1,007
    Not to (outright) deny you had knowledge of the additional options, but are you sure you're not just claiming to have known? It makes some sense, though - if you just told us more options and configurations were in the pipeline, the car would flop initially as everyone would wait to buy a better config. Evil, but that's how NDAs and business work, eh?

    As to the entertainment aspect of adults complaining about options (or the lack of choices), it was about on par with watching the sales manager of a large (?) dealership stomping off because everyone was picking on him :)

    No hard feelings, of course!
  • There are Mazda 6's made in the U.S. and made in Japan. Only for the Japanese market are they Atenzas. All other Japanese made models are 6's. Mine was made in Japan and I bought it from a dealer in Honduras 3 weeks ago. So rather than call non NA models Atenzas, they should just call them made in Japan. They make many more 6's than Atenzas in Japan.

    BTW, I love the car.

    In this market of only Japanese made Mazdas, they sell 323's (compact), 626's (midsize, now replaced by the 6) and the dealer's brother works in my building and drives an even larger 929. Can someone tell me the equivalents in the US market? There are lots of 323's running around here. Would that be the Protege?
  • boxfanboxfan Posts: 180
    "If somebody had asked me I would have been glad to tell them"--okay, Rich, do you know anything you're not telling us?
  • ashutoshsmashutoshsm Posts: 1,007
    Not to (outright) deny you had knowledge of the additional options, but are you sure you're not just claiming to have known? It makes some sense, though - if you just told us more options and configurations were in the pipeline, the car would flop initially as everyone would wait to buy a better config. Evil, but that's how NDAs and business work, eh?

    As to the entertainment aspect of adults complaining about options (or the lack of choices), it was about on par with watching the sales manager of a large (?) dealership stomping off because everyone was picking on him :)

    No hard feelings, of course!
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Posts: 1,583
    323 = Protege

    and soon, Protege will be replaced by the Mazda3 :-)
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    The 323 there is our Protege here. It's called Familia in Japan. They also get the neat FS-ZE engine, with turbo and AWD, good for 170hp. :(

    The 929 used to be made here, but it died back in 1994 or 95. We had the Millenia though (the 6 replaces this), I don't know if it's the same as your 929 though.

    We had the 626 as well, it's been replaced by the 6 though.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    323: Protege
    626: in your market was (I think) the Capela (never sold in the US :( )in other markets and a much better car (IMO) than the 93< NA 626
    929: discontinued in NA with the introduction of the Millenia (now defunct as well). Obviously, the 929 is still sold in other markets.

    Edit: Sorry for duplicate info.
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    yeah, it was in my dealers order guide and on the mazda spec deck on the dealer order system with the intro dates

    and quite frankly I didnt say anything because people on this thread are generally rude and didnt want to hear the facts...they just wanted to whine and declare the car a flop...

    Don't worry I wont be around here much, just wanted to clear up a few incorrect posts on here....We have a hard enough job in the car biz without know-it-all's who don't know much spreading their version of the facts. hahaha

    Glad to see everyone is as friendly as ever. lol
  • kenokakenoka Posts: 218
    Would these be the same type of experts who claim that they had to take the "Atenza" badge off of a german Mazda6?
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    it's getting warm in here.
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    I don't think the FS-ZE is turbocharged.
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Posts: 1,583
    is NATURALLY ASPIRATED... no turbo Paul... :-)
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Crap, I got the wrong engine code I think. :(

    Whatever it's called, you all know what I mean. What is the code then?

    And thanks ahead of time. :)
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,456
    Actually, as I recall many people did ask audia8q what the deal was with the options.
  • ashutoshsmashutoshsm Posts: 1,007
    Yeah, a little friendly ribbing.

    Although I (personally) consider withholding information a different class of offense from merely raising loud opinions and complaints about choices available to consumers.

    But then again, its not as if Richard is here under the sole premise to be our source of info, eh? Nor did he ever claim or promise to be just that. Part of it has to do with keeping a finger on the pulse of the more informed (assuming 'internet savvy' -> 'more informed') car buyer - ie: one's own bottom line. Absolutely nothing wrong with that approach, either.

    All in all, a rather informative and eye-opening look (for the less business- and market-oriented among us) at the complex logistics and planning that go into the release of a new car. In the end, everyone wins!

    OK, enough about this, I guess - do tell us how soon more sensibly configured Mazda 6's will start being produced and shipped. Have either of your dealerships placed orders for a configuration not yet available through the web tool at mazdausa (but allowed by the updated build specs specified in the mazda email some of us have received)? ETA?
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    hmmm, not sure how I got in your title bar, but ok.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Rich, we all let you know several weeks ago that we wanted you to continue to be a part of this discussion. However, continuing to snipe at the folks participating here is not called for.

    And to the rest of you, I think you need to realize that Rich has always been very helpful and courteous to the Town Hall community. We had a bad misunderstanding a few weeks ago. We ALL need to let it go.

    I am calling an end to the bickering that's going on here. Enough is enough. We all should be able to compose a message that does not include insults of any sort.

    Let's get back to the enthusiastic conversation we were having before the ugliness of a few weeks ago. All of you should be patting yourselves on the back for raising your voices to Mazda USA and making yourselves heard.

    I think that in and of itself is outstanding! :-)
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