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Mazda6 Wagon

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  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    the folks who don't get the worth of ABS usually are the type that think they can do everything better themselves or have never been in a situation where they have seen the benefit of ABS.
  • nedzelnedzel Posts: 787
    I'm hoping that we can agree to disagree about this without denigrating each other.
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    whatever. no more from me on this.
  • Let's get this back on topic. Any more updates on the Mazda 6 Wagon?
  • other than the fact that a salesman yesterday told me that the hatch and the wagon were one and the same vehicle (I respectfully disagreed) and that they have no idea when the car will be on the lots and that they claim it likely will have both the 4-cylinder and V6 as choices. My wife rode in the back of a Mazda6 sedan for an hour yesterday and felt cramped. Did the back of the wagon seem bigger to those of you who saw it at the auto shows?
  • Yes, the back seat in the wagon did seem to have more room than both the sedan & the hatch. The hatch seemed to be the smallest, then the sedan, and the wagon the largest, especially in head room. I believe leg room seemed a bit more in the wagon as well.
    Being 6'4", the wagon is the only version of the 6 that I would consider. If they build it only with a 6cyl, I'm afraid it will be out of my budget & I'll have to go with an Accord.
  • My wife is 5'3" and she compared the room in the back of the sedan to the '87 Chevy Nova (aka California-built Corolla) that we used to own. When I sat in the back of the sedan with moonroof, I didn't have enough headroom and I'm only 5'10". I don't recall being put off by the legroom, but the driver of the sedan yesterday is fairly tall and likely had the driver's seat farily far back.
         I too will likely not buy the Mazda6 wagon unless I can get a 4-cylinder. Reasons are fuel economy in addition to price.
  • 4itgog4itgog Posts: 15
    I just received an email from Mazda.

    Unfortunately, the V6 is the only engine available in the new wagon. Darn! It is too difficult to find a sporty , fuel efficient , utility vehicle in this day & age.
  • joey2brixjoey2brix Posts: 464
    A 4cyl would just get the wagon panned by the reviews as being a dog. I guess that leaves the L300 wagon as the cheapest 4cyl wagon in that size class at under 20K.
  • That certainly is disappointing in my view. I suspect joey2brix is correct. It could get 40 mpg and have plenty of oomph to merge onto the freeway, but if it doesn't go from 0 to 60 in 3.5 seconds the reviewers will complain.
         Before anyone considers the Saturn L300, go to the Saturn forum (L-series sedans in addition to wagons) and read about the dimming headlight problem. The Saturn wagon also does not have full head restraints in the back seat, and when half the seat is folded down to create more cargo space there is a bar that remains in place, meaning that you can't carry something tall and narrow and still have a passanger in the back seat.
         Some people have reported buying base Subaru Outback wagons for just under $20K. I'm still looking at those, and also the Volvo V40 which would be a bit more expensive. It's sad that I now will cross the Mazda off my short list.
  • 4itgog4itgog Posts: 15
    I received a response from Heather D----, a specialist at customer assistance e business
  • If you don't want the 6 cylinder 6 wagon because the cost would be to high. Yet you would consider a Volvo V40 base price on those start at 25,800. MY 6 wagon, thats getting built in a week will have everything on it sport,lux packages will be about 26k. It seems like alot of people on this forum like to compare apples to oranges, like the 6 will cost to much so I'm going with a BMW 540 wagon instead. I guess I'm lucky to have a good dealer that I can walk in to and they show me on their computers the build date on my wagon.
  • jimjpsjimjps Posts: 146
    Does anyone know the cargo dimensions (width between wheel wells and height of cargo area).
    BTW, I'm just happy it comes with a manual transmission.
  • rock44xrock44x Posts: 78
    MAZDA6 Sport Wagon The rear compartment offers a generous 33.7 cubic feet of cargo room with the seats up and 60.4 cubic feet with them folded,
  • hboydhboyd Posts: 98
    (1) Does anybody know the 6 Wagon US pricing and option lists?
     
    (2) Can you get the side-impact airbags w/o buying all the Sport/Audio/Appearance packages? I don't want a flashy, tuner wagon... sorry;

    Thanks, Martin
  • Standard seat-mounted side-impact airbags protection in front of mazda6 5 door and sport wagon while side-curtain airbag system is optional along with optional bose Audio, leather package , sport package, and moonroof.

    Standard v6, and 17 inch wheels
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    I see you are still quoting the same old press release. SAB is not standard on the 5-door. I don't know about the wagon.

    Maybe we can get Rich (audia8q) to clear this up.
  • yugoboyyugoboy Posts: 161
    Wow, it's been a while since i posted in this forum, but it good too see so much buzz for the new wagon.

    It's really too bad though, i think the mazda6 wagon is going to be great, but it's almost been 3 years since i first saw the photo's and spec's for this car and it's only arriving now in dealerships in a few months.

    I know that the new subaru gt wagon is in a different class, but i think i will save up a few more pennies and go with the subie, but you never know the 6 could steal my heart away(it probably wouldve if it hadn't taken mazda so long to get this car to the canadian/american market).
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 15,416
    sat in one today at the Philly auto show. Very nice. Seemed to have a good size cargo area (nicely shaped, and the rear window design didn't cut into the space). Tons of head room in the rear seat. Looked very nice in person, a stylish profile (much better than many other wagons that kinda goofy at the back side).

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX (wife's) and 2007 Volvo S40 (daughters college car)

  • if that's the old press release then were is the new one,
    this was the press release from the Los Angeles show and i have not seen another one.
    if you have seen another one tell me were i can find it.
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    There is no new press release, but the one you are quoting has incorrect information for the Mazda6 5-door. That makes me suspect that it could be incorrect for the wagon too. I guess we'll have to wait for new info on the Mazda web site, or a friendly dealer lurking around here. ;)
  • there was a press release at the Los Angeles auto show with the introduction of the mazda 6 Wagon and 5-Door to the US market.
    the Mazda web site is slow in given info on it's cars, the Mazda web site does even have the US production model or the NAIAS photos, their still showing the European model photo yet while nissan's website posted the photos of it new cars the next day, same with GM, and Ford(who own Mazda)
    the info is all over the net and i only quoted this cause i seen it on more than four different auto news sites.

    sites with press release

    www.triplezoom.com/news/publish/printer_97.shtml

    or do a mazda 6 Sport Wagon and 5-Door press release Search
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    SAB is an option for the Wagon. Here is the current build configs for the Auto trans.

    AT2 - 5-speed Automatic Transmission • CE1 - Lev Emissions Equipment.
     
      AT2 - 5-speed Automatic Transmission • CE1 - Lev Emissions Equipment • 3RA - Premium Audio Package.
     
      AT2 - 5-speed Automatic Transmission • 1LX - Luxury Package • CE1 - Lev Emissions Equipment.
     
      AT2 - 5-speed Automatic Transmission • 1LX - Luxury Package • CE1 - Lev Emissions Equipment • 3RA - Premium Audio Package.

      AT2 - 5-speed Automatic Transmission • 1LX - Luxury Package • MR1 - Power Moonroof • CE1 - Lev Emissions Equipment • 3RA - Premium Audio Package.
     
      AT2 - 5-speed Automatic Transmission • MR1 - Power Moonroof • AB6 - Side Air Bags & Side Air Curtains • CE1 - Lev Emissions Equipment • 3RA - Premium Audio Package.
     
      AT2 - 5-speed Automatic Transmission • 1LX - Luxury Package • MR1 - Power Moonroof • AB6 - Side Air Bags & Side Air Curtains • CE1 - Lev Emissions Equipment • 3RA - Premium Audio Package.
     
      AT2 - 5-speed Automatic Transmission • 1SE - Sport Group • CE1 - Lev Emissions Equipment.
     
      AT2 - 5-speed Automatic Transmission • 1SE - Sport Group • CE1 - Lev Emissions Equipment • 3RA - Premium Audio Package.
     
      AT2 - 5-speed Automatic Transmission • 1LX - Luxury Package • 1SE - Sport Group • CE1 - Lev Emissions Equipment.
     
      AT2 - 5-speed Automatic Transmission • 1LX - Luxury Package • 1SE - Sport Group • CE1 - Lev Emissions Equipment • 3RA - Premium Audio Package.
     
      AT2 - 5-speed Automatic Transmission • 1LX - Luxury Package • 1SE - Sport Group • MR1 - Power Moonroof • CE1 - Lev Emissions Equipment • 3RA - Premium Audio Package.
     
      AT2 - 5-speed Automatic Transmission • 1SE - Sport Group • MR1 - Power Moonroof • AB6 - Side Air Bags & Side Air Curtains • CE1 - Lev Emissions Equipment • 3RA - Premium Audio Package.
     
      AT2 - 5-speed Automatic Transmission • 1LX - Luxury Package • 1SE - Sport Group • MR1 - Power Moonroof • AB6 - Side Air Bags & Side Air Curtains • CE1 - Lev Emissions Equipment • 3RA - Premium Audio Package.
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    Somehow I knew you would come through with this info. ;)

    I took a good look at the configs and I see a definite pattern here. These are the same package combos as for the 5-door, except for that on the wagon there are 7 combos with 1SE and the same 7 without 1SE, as opposed to the 5-door which only comes with 1SE.

    For the benefit of the wagon shoppers here, are the package combos for the MT Wagon the same as what you listed for the AT?
  • the 1SE - Sport Group is the same as the
    Sport Package w/ Rear Spoiler
    Includes sport type front and rear bumpers, rear wing type spoiler, side sill extensions, fog lights, oval type dual exhaust outlets, and titanium color power window switch panels, for the 4dr Sedan , everyone know the mazda6 5 door is going to have a more aggressive look so the Sport Package w/ Rear Spoiler or Sport Group will be standard on the i and s trims, go to

    http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=- upcomingMazda6

    that is mazda usa's website read for yourself,
    your giving the sedan info.
    if i'm wrong were can i read it for myself.

    SAB is not a big deal the Volkswagen Jetta and Passat (sedan and Wagon), Acura TSX, Honda Accord ex, 2004 Mitsubishi Galant gts, all have standard SAB why not a mazda6 around the same price.
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    I'm not sure what your point is, but Rich is a dealer and the info he provides is straight from Mazda and is correct.

    I agree that SAB/SAC should be standard on all Mazda6 models, but it's not. Maybe next year.

    Watch out for those press releases. I believe the problem stems from the terminology that has been used over the years for airbags, as they have evolved.
    In the old days when some cars had only the front airbag on the driver's side, they used the term "driver's-side airbag" and "passenger's-side airbag". So now, in a press release sometimes "driver's-side and passenger's-side airbag" (actually driver's-side and passenger's-side front airbags which ALL cars have) becomes "driver's and passenger's side airbag" (SAB). Whoops.
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    I have simplied Rich's info for those of you who don't like reading long lines. ;)

    These are grouped into those with and without the Sport Package, as this seems to be a major issue for some shoppers. This info is only for the AT models, but I suspect they are the same for the MT (we'll need an update from Rich on that question).

    Mazda6 s Wagon (AT)
     
    No Sport Package:
    1. Base, no packages
    2. Bose Audio only
    3. Luxury only
    4. Luxury and Bose Audio
    5. Luxury, Bose Audio and Moonroof
    6. Bose Audio, Moonroof, and SAB/SAC
    7. Luxury, Bose Audio, Moonroof, and SAB/SAC

    With Sport Package:
    8. Sport only
    9. Sport and Bose Audio
    10. Sport and Luxury
    11. Sport, Luxury and Bose Audio
    12. Sport, Luxury, Bose Audio and Moonroof
    13. Sport, Bose Audio, Moonroof, and SAB/SAC
    14. Sport, Luxury, Bose Audio, Moonroof, and SAB/SAC (fully loaded)

    The Luxury package contains leather, heated seats and mirrors, power seat, and EL gauges.

    Note that dealers may be restricted to a smaller number of the available option combos on the first order. What about that, Rich?
  • Mazda News
    2004 Mazda6 Sport Wagon and 5-Door
    By Source: Mazda North America
    Dec 29, 2003, 16:07

    Los Angeles – Mazda adds two derivatives of the hugely popular MAZDA6 sport sedan—the MAZDA6Sport Wagon and MAZDA6 5-Door—to its already stellar 2004 model lineup. The MAZDA6 Sport Wagon and MAZDA6 5-Door offer even more variety for consumers who desire extra versatility and style but still yearn for the soul of a sports car.

    During its debut year, the MAZDA6 won more than 60 domestic and international industry awards, including Car and Driver’s "10Best," Automobile Magazine’s "All-Star," Money Magazine’s "Best Mid-Sized Sedan," and the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety’s "Best Pick." In addition, it was the highest-rated new vehicle nameplate in the entire 2003 JD Power and Associates’ APEAL study. That same MAZDA6 success carries over to the Sport Wagon and 5-Door models.

    "MAZDA6 had a very successful launch and we want to continue to build on its momentum," said Jim Sailer, MAZDA 6 vehicle line manager. "We’ve created the Sport Wagon and 5-Door to reinvigorate the MAZDA6 line and provide that same exceptional driving experience to those who simply require more than a sedan can offer."

    The MAZDA6 5-Door is the only midsize 5-Door hatchback offered for sale in the U.S. Along with the all-new Sport Wagon, Mazda also has the broadest lineup in the midsize category.

    MAZDA6 Sport Wagon combines the aggressive good looks of the sedan and 5-Door with the versatility only a wagon or SUV can provide. Sport Wagon appeals to the driver who needs room for gear or children but simply cannot give up the driving dynamics of a true, authentic sports sedan.

    The 5-Door distinguishes itself by looking more like a four-door sport coupe than a hatchback. In the past, hatchbacks carried a negative stigma and were often considered only by consumers who desired utility and economy, usually at the expense of style and driving dynamics. MAZDA6 5-Door shatters that notion by incorporating flair and sporty driving characteristics into a vehicle that offers ample utility to those who need it.

    From the exterior, Sport Wagon and 5-Door differ from the sedan only from the B-pillar back. The 5-Door’s roof line slopes gradually to the rear decklid for an aggressively aerodynamic yet elegant appearance. Its sleek, fastback look serves a functional purpose as well.

    Opening the liftgate of the 5-Door reveals a covered cargo compartment with 22.0 cubic feet of space, nearly 50 percent more than that of the sedan. Additionally, the opening is so expansive that oddly shaped items, which would not fit through normal trunk openings, can slide through with ease. Rear seats fold with the touch of a button and there is no need to remove the head rests. With the rear seats folded, cargo space expands to 58.7 cubic feet. Cargo tie-downs and two hidden compartments in the side panels allow drivers more options for stowage.

    With a hint of wedge in its profile, the Sport Wagon carries itself with an athletic and somewhat European road-ready stance. Since wagon buyers generally desire versatility, MAZDA6 Sport Wagon has more than its share of roominess and flexibility. The second-row seats fold with the touch of a lever located near the tailgate with no need to remove the head rests for a near-flat load floor. Tie-downs, a retractable cargo cover shade and a barrier-type net that raises from the floor and attaches to the roof interior all come standard. The rear compartment offers a generous 33.7 cubic feet of cargo room with the seats up and 60.4 cubic feet with them folded, which is in the same league as some SUVs.

     

    All Sport Wagons come equipped with a 220-horsepower DOHC V-6 engine, and unlike most wagons, a five-speed manual transmission is standard (five-speed Sport Shift A/T with manual shift mode available). MAZDA6 5-Door, like the sedan, comes with either a 160 horsepower I-4 (available with five-speed manual or four-speed Sport Shift A/T with manual shift mode) or the 220-horsepower V-6 (available with five-speed manual or five-speed Sport Shift A/T with manual shift mode), and both models retain all the critically acclaimed MAZDA6 powertrain qualities.

    Both the 3.0-liter 24-valve V-6 and the 2.3-liter 16-valve I-4 feature DOHC valvetrains with continuously variable intake valve timing (VVT). This technology provides the ability to tune the engine for smooth running at low speeds and extra power at high rpm. In both MAZDA6 engines, VVT operation is continuous between minimum and maximum set points to achieve optimum performance throughout the engine’s entire operating range.

    No sport suspension option is needed here because every MAZDA 6 is tuned for sharp reflexes and maximum road holding. Mazda engineers selected a double-wishbone front and E-type multi-link rear suspension to provide the most accurate geometry with the least amount of built-in friction. A wide front track and standard stabilizer bar help resist body roll and weight transfer, minimizing understeer.

    MAZDA6’s power-assisted rack-and-pinion steering is tuned to be precise, linear and responsive. At high road speeds, assistance is reduced to enhance both stability and the degree of communication transmitted through the steering wheel. A quick steering ratio—only 2.54 turns lock-to-lock—gives the MAZDA6 a keen sense of agility.

    For sports-car-like braking performance, Mazda engineers selected 11.1-inch ventilated discs for the front wheels and 11.0-inch solid discs in back to deliver rapid, controlled stopping and the utmost resistance to fading. Computer simulations helped tune pedal feel for rapid response and a linear reaction to subtle modulation pressure.

    ABS is standard on the MAZDA6 Sport Wagon and 5-Door s and available on the MAZDA6 5-Door i. Part of the ABS programming is Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD), developed to extract maximum stopping ability by automatically compensating for varying wheel loads. As a result, stopping distances are less likely to increase as vehicle loading rises. Electronic traction control, also integrated with the MAZDA6’s ABS, helps maintain directional stability even on snow-covered or rain-slicked roads.

    Three-point belts are provided at all five seating positions. Pretensioners, load limiters and height-adjustable shoulder belt anchors are provided for front occupants. The front air bags are an advanced "smart" design with dual-action inflation to tailor their response to both the occupants’ seating position and accident severity.

    Standard seat-mounted side-impact airbags protect the chest, neck and head of front occupants. An optionally available side-curtain airbag system adds additional protection from side impacts for both front and rear occupants and deploys from the outer edges of the headliner.

    Both the MAZDA6 Sport Wagon and 5-Door feature 17-inch, five-spoke alloy wheels and 215/50R17 V-rated all season tires as standa
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    The press release contains an error, and you're wrong, but I'll give you a 'A' for persistence. ;)

    Whoever wrote the press release get's a 'D' for making the error. Doh!
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