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Toyota Echo Maintenance and Repair

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  • equisequis Posts: 2
    Hi all,

    I just found this forum, and it looks great! I have a question.

    About 2 months ago, I read an article in The Province Newspaper that Toyota was going to recall a number of Echos (can't remember what years) because the floorboards were prone to rust. The article said that Toyota would be replacing floorboards for free, and would be notifying owners.

    I haven't received any notification at all, and was wondering if anyone else has heard of this recall that was in the newspaper article. I am going to contact the dealer, but thought I'd try you folks first.

    I LOVE my Echo, and think they are fantastic cars! :)
  • rossm2rossm2 Posts: 96
    This may help. As far as I know, no vehicles have actually experienced rusting through, even in the high salt environments of Eastern Canada. It seems to be reventative only.

    "CORROSION PROTECTION ENHANCEMENT ECHO CPE PROGRAM
    March 2005
    Dear Toyota Owner:
    Thank you for driving an Echo. At Toyota, we are dedicated to providing vehicles of outstanding quality and value. As part of our continuous effort to provide superior customer satisfaction, Toyota is announcing a Corrosion Protection Enhancement program that includes your Echo. Toyota has recently become aware that under certain operating conditions and exposure to high concentrations of road salt, the original corrosion protection layer on the interior floor panel of Echos
    manufactured before September 29, 2004 may be compromised. In order to ensure your continued satisfaction with your vehicle, we request that you arrange to have your Echo inspected by an authorized Toyota dealer. Upon inspection, the dealer will apply Toyota approved anti-corrosion materials that will enhance the corrosion protection of your vehicle AT NO COST TO YOU.
    Please contact any authorized Toyota dealer at your earliest convenience to schedule an appointment to have the corrosion protection enhancement performed. Servicing will take approximately three (3.0) to eight (8.0) hours to complete. However, depending upon the dealer’s work schedule, it may be necessary to make your vehicle available for a longer period of time.
    This Corrosion Protection Enhancement program is a limited time offer. We request that you arrange to have your Echo serviced under this program before September 30, 2005. If you have any questions, please contact the Service Department at any Toyota Dealer. We have sent this notice in the interest of your continued satisfaction with our products. We greatly appreciate your continued patronage of driving a Toyota.
    TOYOTA SERVICE OPERATIONS"

    More information can be found by googling echodrivers and/or "campaign 505".

    Ross
  • equisequis Posts: 2
    That is very interesting. Although we don't have heavy concentrations of snow and road salt here on Gabriola Island, we are right by the ocean so I think it would be a good idea to have my Echo taken in for the enhanced corrosion protection. Especially since it's at not cost!

    .... besides ... my little Echo deserves a Spa treatment once in a while. :)

    Thank you very much for posting that information rossm2.
  • rossm2rossm2 Posts: 96
    My pleasure. By the way, I live in Port Alberni - we Islanders need to stick together.
    ;)

    Ross
  • seasnow9seasnow9 Posts: 1
    Hi from a Newbie:-) :blush:

    Just had my 2004 Echo done yesterday.
    That part was good. All done now.
    the car is great...good in snow and I am a snowboarder, no fuss and no probs (this is my second Echo..I owned the first one in my town..the 2000 demo car:-)
  • mattclimattcli Posts: 2
    I have a 2000 Echo. Sometimes, when I first hit the accelerator to pull out into the road, the car will stall (i guess that's what you call it). Basically, it doesn't go as soon as I hit the gas. At this point I usually reflexively push the gas harder even though it doesn't really help. The car will then suddenly "catch up" and begin to accelerate. After that, it's fine. I can go the rest of the day without a problem. It may actually be several days or even weeks before it does it again. It seems to happen in any type of weather. Warming the car up seems to help, and I usually do so, but sometimes I'm in a hurry. And it won't always do it even if I'm starting cold.

    Any ideas? Can anyone even make sense of what I typed? I obviously know very little about cars. Thank you for any help!
  • rossm2rossm2 Posts: 96
    Is your ECHO an automatic as I suspect? If so, the problem is likely transmission slippage. Have you ever had the transmission fluid changed? Check the fluid level and condition (or have someone do it for you as you say you know little about cars). If it is dark in colour or smells BAD, have it replaced. 5 years is a long time for transmission fluid. If the problem is a recent one, you probably won't be looking at an expensive repair. Good luck and let us know the outcome.

    Ross
  • mattclimattcli Posts: 2
    Yes, it's an automatic. I'll have the fluid checked ASAP, and I'll definitely let you know what happens. Thanks for your help!
  • echobcechobc Posts: 1
    Hello All.
    I have owned a 2003, 2004 and now a 2005 echo 4dr sedan automatic with A/C. With all three cars I have had an annoying issue. On a mildly windy day when driving on highway doing 60-65mph (100-120kmh) I can feel every little gust of wind. I have to continually correct my steering as each gust forces me to the shoulder of the road, and it is especially bad when passing large trucks. I have 14" tires that have a medium profile (stock size). Firstly I was wondering if anyone else notices the "sail like" profile of the Echo? And secondly does anyone know if a lower profile or larger radius tire would help to reduce this type of problem.

    I have also seen a lot of earlier posts made commenting of the weak A/C system on the Echo and I totally agree. On my 2003 the A/C had a lot of problems. When I would first engage the A/C the car would shutter and almost stall with a harsh kicking sound as the compressor started. Then with continued use the car would idle erratically and the temp would rise. I had it into the dealer many times but a problem was never found. Then on my 2004 I hoped the weak A/C would be forgotten, but alas I suffered another summer.
    When I took it into the dealer this time they said that summer weather is hot so the A/C cant intake cool air so it wont get as cold. I KNOW IT’S HOT….THAT’S WHY I GOT AIR CONDITIONING!!! They replaced a valve or something and it never got any better anyway. I now have a 2005 and so far would almost suspect the A/C has improved, however we have not hit the real hot temps of summer yet so that is still to be proven.
    I had a friend who is a commercial A/C technician suggest insulating all of the pipe connections off the compressor with insulating tape (like the stuff used for your hot water pipes in the house) I have yet to try this but hope it helps.

    And you may ask why/how have I owned 3 Echos in three years?
    Well these pictures should explain.

    This is my 2003 after an $11000 rear end collision.
    image
    This is my 2004 after getting rear ended and pushed under the truck in front of me.
    image
  • SylviaSylvia Posts: 1,636
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    Thanks for your consideration,
    Jeannine Fallon
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  • abby3abby3 Posts: 5
    The floor on the passenger side of my Echo is soaking wet and I can't get it to dry up.
    Everytime it rains it is wetter, could this be the Program 505 problem or
    something else?
  • jstaylorjstaylor Posts: 1
    I also have an echo (2000)-- just recently purchased -- that makes a high pitched noise. The only difference with mine, is that it makes the noise as I am slightly accelerating (I have not noticed it while idleing). I went to the dealer and they said that there was nothing they could do; the noise is apparently caused by the intake manifold.

    I am wondering if the dealer gave you any solution for the problem. The noise is extremely annoying to me and i would like to have it taken care of. Hope to hear from you soon
  • mhindawimhindawi Posts: 1
    I bought 2001 Toyota Echo last week. I have been going nuts trying to find the windshield washer bottle. Even my mechanic looked when inspected the car but could not locate it. Any help on where it should be would be appreciated. TIA.
  • rwgreenbergrwgreenberg Posts: 154
    Hi. I'm hearing a tick-tick-tick rubbing sound on hard very slow turns. It is definitely related to the speed as the tick-tick-tick is faster at 5mph that at 2mph. I looked in the whell well and it seems that it is possible that the wheel is hitting the pliable plastic thingo that is mounted in the well. But it looks like this plastic thingo is not something one can bend or easily get completely flush with the metal behind it. It alos looks like this platic thingo has not been disturbed in any noticable manner. The sound is much more noticable when when doing a right hand turn, but also is present on a hard left. It sounds like something not serious (I pray). Anyone else experience this?
  • jjjnjjjn Posts: 2
    I just experienced the same thing. I recently had to buy a new tire, so I did a tire rotation, and came up with a squeakig noise from the front end. I got the car up on a lift to find that the noise was coming from the CV boots, which were rubbing against themselves when at a certain angle! I sprayed them with some rubber/vinyl conditioner and the sound when away. I found in the past that it is a good practice to do this occasionally to keep the boots pliable which prevents (hastens) cracking boots that lead to a CV joint replacement. By the way, you don't have to put the car on a lift to get at the boots. Hope this helps!
  • abby3abby3 Posts: 5
    I had the recall call work done on my Echo and it hasn't rained, I haven't washed my car and now a week later my passenger side floor is soaking wet with clean looking water.
    It is right through the carpet and pooling on top now!
    Could something under the hood such as the air conditioner be draining into the passenger compartment?
  • rossm2rossm2 Posts: 96
    I think that you have most likely nailed it. Sometimes to hose which carries away condensation from the air conditioner can become blocked, thus leading to the problem you describe. Unclog it and I strongly suspect your car will be OK. Let us know please.
    :)
    Ross
  • abby3abby3 Posts: 5
    Took the Echo into the dealers today. They called me after an hour and offered me a drive in to pick it up. My they are so nice I thought. Got there on my own and there was no charge for the work, super nice now.
    Problem, the air conditioning outlet hose was not attached and they attached it.
    I suspect it was never attached. I bought the car from them 3 years ago new and the dealer added the air conditioning kit. I slapped big rubber mats on the floor when I bought it so it would take a lot for me to notice any water.
    They were so apologetic I was waiting for one of them to whisper in my ear, "Sell the car quick, it's screwed after all that water damage".
    What do you think?
  • rossm2rossm2 Posts: 96
    I would be extremely surprised if there is any damage at all resulting from the problem. You are dealing with condensation - essentially distilled water. It's not as though you had constant exposure to salt water such as you might get in winter in the snowbelt.

    You might want to take a quick peek under the carpet for rust, but I think you are fine for many, many years to come. Thanks for letting us know the cause and the solution.

    Ross
  • abby3abby3 Posts: 5
    It looks fine under the carpet at a quick glance.
    Thanks for the reassurance and your advice with the problem.
    Added bonus, got to look at the cars in the showroom
    and may be getting new car fever.
  • richechorichecho Posts: 1
    In traffic conditions my 2000 Echo temperature light comes on and the car overheats.
    I found that the 30 amp. fuse protecting the cooling fan opened on an overload. I replaced the fuse and after a few days the fuse opened agian. I took it to the dealer, They checked the car and found no problem. I have a Toyota repair manual, however it does not show an electrical diagram for the cooling fan circuit. Does anyone out there have a diagram or did anyone experience a similar problem ?
  • Did the check engine light ever come on? I've got the same problem now and the dealer has identifed at least two expensive components the Air Flow Sensor and the O2 Sensor each is about $250 including labor to replace. What did they do to fix it?

    Thanks Ronbo_Echo
  • normhnormh Posts: 31
    I had the same problem with my Echo. After reading about others with same problem, I decided to look at the mass airflow sensor myself. I pulled the cover off of the air filter housing and saw what I thought was this sensor. I took a Q-tip and some alcohol and cleaned up inside the opening very carefully as I didn't really know what was up there. As I did this, I noticed that the Q-tip was black (dirt). I used 3 or 4 in the process until it came out clean. I put it back together and it solved the hesitation that occured when the car was cold. Total investment; 4 Q-tips and a little rubbing alcohol. Electrical contact cleaner may also work (I didn't have any at the time. Try it; what do you have to lose? Normh.
  • peacejbmpeacejbm Posts: 9
    I bought my 2002 ECHO new in 12/01. Last summer as I was cleaning it up inside, I noticed that the header was splattered with .... something. Something that looked like Coke ore a thin, watered down ketchup. My husband and I are the only people who drive my car and neither of has had an incident involving exploding pop or ketchup. I kept wondering if something happened to it at the Toyota dealer when I had it in for routine service, oil changes, etc. but kept forgetting to mention it when I brought it in.

    These stains were on the drivers side extending from the front of the header to the back. Yesterday I noticed that some of these marks are now on the passenger side as well.

    My dad speculated that perhaps water is leaking in somehow and rusting? It's very stange. Has anyone had a similar problem with their ECHO?
  • Hi,
    I bought my 2001 echo in dec of 2000 and it has 42000 miles on it right now. I just took it the dealer to get the oil changed and they told me that I have an exhaust leak. Has anyone had this problem and do you have any idea how much will it cost to fix it?
    thanks.
  • I bought my 2000 echo used last year with 14k on it. I have no idea what kind of driver owned it before me, it was leased. By around 20,000 miles I had to replace the breakes and the rotors. My friend is a mechanic and I took it to his shop. he siad that the pads were very small and he recomended sone higher grade brake pads.
  • Hi, I have an '01 echo. When you go to push the gas pedal the throttle doesn't respond and the car doesn't move for about 1-2 seconds and then the car suddenly surges forward. It does this either when it's hot or cold. It has a brand new air filter, spark plugs, and I ran lucas fuel injector cleaner through it. What could be causing this??? Thanks

    Jason
  • hainahaina Posts: 6
    I have a 2000 echo and my check engine light came on around 15K miles and the toyota service department said it was my transmission fluid being plugged up. Fluid needs to be changed every 15K miles. I have 65K miles on it and I have done the fluid like they said, well now for the passed 10k miles the check engine light comes on for a day then mysteriously goes off. Then a week goes by and the engine light comes on then goes off after a day or so. Does anybody have a clue what could be going on????? before I take it into the dealer. I have never had any problems with the car set for the engine light. no hesitation or anything. Thanks
  • I too have the strange coke splatter on the head liner of my 2000 Echo. I had been blaming my teenage son for opening a shook-up coke can inside the car. I guess I need to apologize for falsely accusing him. Did you ever find out what caused it. It seems on my car, it wasn't there one day, and appeared the next.
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