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Good luck!
gteach26, once you go to flatratetech.com then what do you do? I can't find anything that looks appropriate.
BTW, to all thinking of buying an aviator, DON'T. My seat is loose again, I still have the rear end howl, I still have the intermittent moan from the back end, the back hatch window squeaks when it is warm, I still hear the tin lid squeak when I corner, I still hear the growl from the hood occasionally, and now an advance trac issue! Don't let the good looks and nice ride fool you.
2003, 7680 miles.
Over at flatratetech go to the message forums (you gotta scroll down a bit to find them -- they're in the center of the page) and leave a message for the techs. That advance trac warning shouldn't be coming on and off and it should get looked at.
Bottom line though, if it's happening often enough and the service tech at your dealer see's it happen then they can fix it for you.
I know it must stink to pay lots of $$ to have headaches...Good luck!
if they ALL have the seat problem, then why doesn't jmez44?
jmez44,
my build date was 7/03, I don't consider that early, is it?
kind of like when the b-52's used to fly over our neighborhood on their landing apporoach(at least it wasn't the bombing approach!). didn't even notice after a while.
I'm in my mid-30's and divorced with no kids, so I think I am one of those people that have arrived in Lincoln show rooms for the first time due to the lure of the Aviator. Lincoln clams that many folks my age that are typically looking for foreign luxury products in the mid-price range are showing up on their lots for the first time.
Since having two mustangs in my teens and early 20’s, I have steered clear of American products. I have owned a Mitsubishi, Toyota, Nissan and two Honda’s.
The vehicles that I have been looking at have been the VW Touareg, Toyota Sequoia, Pathfinder Armada, Infiniti QX56, Dodge Durango, Acura MDX, BMW X5
Quick thumbnails on each
1. The Touareg has been my first choice for awhile but after reading several forums and all the MAJOR issues, I have just about eliminated this vehicle. I like the size of it, the interior is awesome and I like the fact that it can tow my 18-foot Champion Bass Boat plus, there aren’t too many of them out there like other vehicles.
2. Toyota Sequoia . The rock steady vehicle that I have been eying for awhile. Several issues.. the interior is not cheap but it’s not flashy either. It can be made to look better with some wood but still not spectacular the design of the truck is old and will be totally redesigned for 2005. I want to buy now and I don’t want to be miserable when the all new version arrives in the fall. So, it’s off the list.
2. Pathfinder Armada.. The styling is kinda weird looking but in the right color it grows on you but I worry about Nissan Quality. I went and test drove one last week and it is without a doubt the worst vehicle in regards to interior on the market. There is more cheap plastic in this behemoth than you can imagine. Plus it’s gigantic. I don’t have kids, don’t need to haul a whole lot and it is overkill for my boat.
3. Infiniti QX56 comes out next month, looks a lot better on the exterior and interior in the brochure but not sure if it’s worth 51k plus.
4. Dodge Durango thought I’d go check it out just to see if I might feel different about it after driving it. I think it was a total rush job by their designers. It looks like two vehicles were put in a trash compactor and joined together. Interior isn’t too bad but the exterior is lame ..plus it’s a Dodge..
5. Buick Rainier Not a bad vehicle but nothing about it calls out to you. Nothing bold about it, nothing awe inspiring.
6.. Acura MDX too vanilla for me
7. BMW X5 4.4 pricey and doesn’t excite me.
So, earlier in the week I am at a red-light and this beautiful white SUV pulls on the side of me and I’m like, “Wow”. Yes, it’s an Aviator and I’m like damn, I need to find out more about that vehicle. Did some digging here on Edmunds, went and test drove it this morning and I think it’s what I am going to go with.
Looking to get a Ultimate 4X2 in ceramic white with the parchment interior Advance trac, 17-inch chrome wheels, Class III towing (If I can definitively find out that the RWD tows 7,200 pounds).. priced one out and it came to 39,400 from my dealer with the $3000.00 incentive.
Avfan - i considered mine a late issue because it came with the newer chrome rims. The other few on the lot at the time (September '03) did not have those. How do i find out the production date of mine, so we can compare?
Open your car door, there's a manufacturer sticker in the jam or on the door jam that will give you a build month/year date on the top somewhere, like 03/03.
The current $3,000 incentive ends on March 31.
If I have to wait until April to get a RWD Ultimate with the class III trailer hitch, I'm thinking I might also be in luck with a bigger incentive from Ford Motor Company.
I don't expect it to get that high again but you never know.
I really like the truck. I was thinking about the Hummer first, even before the lease prices for them went down (currently like 600 a month now). But you get more options in the Aviator for the same price, not to mention more practical.
My 2003 Aviator had 920 miles on it when i picked it up new from the dealer. It was a Golf Show car lent out to an LPGA professional to have for a few weeks. The MSRP on it was $53,135. I got a $7000 rebate, and an additional $5000 because it had miles on it. I put about 2k down and leased it at $39,000 (3%). I pay $497/month .
I had to leave a Continental with a service manager for about 2 weeks so that he could find a "funny noise" it made for me. He used it as his daily driver until it did it, and then he indeed found the problem.
In a perfect world, mechanics could find everything our machines do and fix them, but it's just not that easy, and the world just isn't that perfect.
And neither are our cars, sadly.
By the way, the TPMS does work very well.
Oh yeah, and that tire pressure gauge works well. It picked it up right away with the cold weather we have been experiencing in the East these days.
Their help line is a complete joke. I am basically on my own with the rental since there is a 500 dollar cap on rentals, which since I had to drive it back to Colorado, I am going to be well above. Also, when the tranny went, I called the help line for a tow and was told I was on my own. After driving Fords for 25 years, I am very disappointed in the customer service. It looks like I paid almost 50000 for this car and Ford could care less.
Tricoat white
parchment interior
advance trac
17 inch chrome wheels
Class III towing package
Lincoln has a hold on the RWD with Class III hitch until April 5 (new rear end/axle), so I got mine in the system so that I be in line. None of the dealers in Louisiana stock the AWD, it's not a need down here in the south. The way several dealers have made it sound is that I will be one of the absolute first to get a RWD with the full 7,300 pound towing capacity (class III) and the Active Trac...
One question, How come I have only seen one Aviator on three Lincoln dealer lots with the 17 inch chrome wheels? Are they not attractive to some folks or is it just too costly of an option opinions?
I'm going to be dying for three months waiting for this baby to come in..
I saw one in the tri-coat white and it's gorgeous. It's too bad to have to wait 2 months, but with the new rear drive train you shouldn't have to worry about the whine.
I ordered my LS in Dec of 2000 and waited almost 2 months to get it. It's worth the wait.
Enjoy that aviator.
They like to have YOU change the oil at 3000 miles. But when they're paying for it, they like to do it at 5000 mile intervals. Hypocracy, eh? I find it interesting. But 5000 works for me anyway.
Tricoat white
parchment interior
advance trac
17 inch chrome wheels
Class III towing package
Lincoln has a hold on the RWD with Class III hitch until April 5 (new rear end/axle), so I got mine in the system so that I be in line. None of the dealers in Louisiana stock the AWD, it's not a need down here in the south. The way several dealers have made it sound is that I will be one of the absolute first to get a RWD with the full 7,300 pound towing capacity (class III) and the Active Trac...
One question, How come I have only seen one Aviator on three Lincoln dealer lots with the 17 inch chrome wheels? Are they not attractive to some folks or is it just too costly of an option opinions?
I'm going to be dying for three months waiting for this baby to come in..
French Silk wasn't my first choice of color (4th actually), but I really didn't want to wait for an ordered vehicle to arrive. Had I ordered, I would have passed on the Entertainment system and maybe even the moonroof, but we wanted to get rid of our '00 Mazda MPV ASAP. No drones/moans or whines from the rear (drove extensively before purchase, and 25 miles after purchase varying speeds between 50 and 60 mph). HVAC system and heated/cooled seats also tested extensively over the full range of operation before purchase -- everything OK. In and out of the dealer in about 2.5 hours.
We're now a 2 Lincoln household.