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corsicachevy - No tools to remove, but when you put them back you need a flat blade screwdriver to remove the plastic plates that cover the seat latches on the floor.
Do you consider the design a covenient one for removal and re-installation of the second row seats. Also does the 3rd row seat fold into the floor or does it require the same removal process as the 2nd row seats.
Thanks for any insight on the level of difficulty or ease in this process.
I want to know what you guys think about the Oddy, is a great buy, would you buy another. What are the current deals on the Oddy? My mom and I looked at the new Oddy a couple of months back, and she is considering either Mesa Beige, Granite Green, or the dark green color. She prefers the EX model, but she thinks that the prices are too expensive. Should she get a new Oddy or should she just get a preowned oddy? Thanks in advance.
Maxamillion
I think that all minivans provide a flat cargo floor when all the seats are removed/stored.
Would we buy another? Yes, the Ody has worked well for us.
Current deals - depends on where you live. Prices seem to range from $500 off to $2,000 over MSRP.
Prices/Value are relative. The Ody at MSRP is priced very close to competing models once their discounted street prices are factored in. Further Ody's seem to be holding value better than competing models.
New vs Used - I stopped at a Honda dealer yesterday and they had a 99 EX with 36K on the lot for $23K, it was $26K new. That decision is your mom's. Personally, I tend to buy new.
Our van was in possession for about 1 hour before I put the first scratch mark on it -- taking one of those plastic covers off! Actually, our van didn't come with covers for all slots at once, just enough to cover the latches not in use depending on your 2nd row configuration. So to just take seats out temporarily, there's nothing to do.
Maxamillion - My wife is a Hall of Fame tightwad, so once she decided on the Ody, we looked long and hard for '99 and up used. Two problems: First, they're hard to find! People love and keep these things. Everytime we found one, it was "already sold". Second, lack of depreciation doesn't make it worthwhile. People tend to put at least average (12-15K/yr) miles on minivans, and price barely drops.
Also, if she wants an EX no leather, she might be able to wiggle under MSRP if she's lucky.
Shane
I did not have to pay NC highway tax at 2-3% but did have to pay the much more stinging Colorado version of 6.95% as well as 470 in licensing fees. However if I had bought in state I would have had to pay 7.65% tax as by buying out of state I don't pay the county tax (thus the difference). So all in all it was a big win. Hope that helps.
Unfortunately the book does not seem to make sense if you drive a really low amount of miles. What if you have the car serviced and then park it in your garage for 6 months while you take a trip to Europe, say. When you come back should you get the oil changed again. That does not make any sense because the oil does not age. It is in this area of very low mileage, with time, that I would be interested in knowing what Honda would recommend. It would have been better if they had covered that in the book in order to be complete and not have misunderstandings.
Oh, and has anyone done aftermarket DVD w/ NAV?
Very happy buyer. Tell her SGreen sent you.
I have a dilemma: I was at an auto show in our area back in Feb/Mar and was able to see both an EX and an LX. After checking both out, I decided that I would rather have the LX. Since we keep our vehicles a long time, I was concerned that if the power doors on the EX ever busted after a warranty ran out and the cost to fix was prohibitive, those things are a bear to close manually. The LX has no power mechanism to break and they open and close very smoothly, with the touch of a finger, as opposed to my '94 Grand Caravan, which I basically have to throw my body against to close.
Now, I'm shopping around and got a good offer (25,500 plus Tax and fees) on an LX with the options I wanted (keyless entry, CD player and Trailer hitch) from my local dealer.
Yesterday, he comes to me with an 2002 GG EX DEMO with 5000 miles he can sell me for 25,500 plus trailer hitch pkg for 850 plus tax and doc fees)
My question, are my concerns about the power doors valid concerns, or are these doors pretty reliable. Does anyone think I may have a problem with them in 7-10 years? Should I take the demo at this price?
Help, I need to call the dealer this morning and let them know...
Yokohama Avid Touring in 225/60SR16 are going to be the replacement tires for my current Michellin 235/60SR60 MXV4 Pluses. Looks to be better tire at less than half the cost. See tirerack.com
As far as looks go all vans look like boxes on wheels to me--not things of beauty. I need carrying capacity and reliability --if I want pretty I'll get a BMW.
1) How big the dealership is/how big an allotment they get.
2) Trim, RES, etc. Don't know what's a longer wait right now.
3) As indicated above, color! When I called around (and I called AROUND!), silver and GG were easiest colors to get quick, with white next. Other colors I could barely even get an estimated date. What color is yours, liebesi?
Jerry
liebesi: haven't verified this myself (we have Canada-built but don't know VIN), but it has been posted in this forum before that 2 is Canadian, 5 is US.
5 = US
1. It holds up the longest of any color without fading.
2. It is the safest color together with yellow, as other drivers can see your car easier then other colors. It can not be seen well in snowstorms.
3. It keeps your car the coolest in the summer time.
4. It hides the dust well, but is not so good for hiding mud. I have had little trouble with it looking dirty.
5. It can be matched well if you get into an accident. I have always had a perfect match.
6. You don't have to worry when you get a white car how it will look. You already know before you get it. It is so easy, to not have to worry about what color car you are going to get and did you make the right choice.
7. My guess is it is less likely to be stolen. Cars are often stolen to order.
I don't think buying a car with a pretty color does you that much good, but it may. You can not see the color of your car when you are driving it well, and also when it is in the garage. Perhaps others will think better of you, but I haven't noticed that.
Perhaps a pretty color does do a person some good. I will leave that to others. Actual white can be considered a pretty color. I do know that I have had white cars for 30 years and have not seen a disadvantage. I would think it would work particularly well for a minivan versus a sports car.
Didn't occur to me to hit the emergency button - I'm going to start doing that instead :-) (I'm still using the original battery in the fob for the past 3 years, even with all my extra clicking).
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rockycow
30K service in 2 weeks on '01 Odyssey EX Navi, my local dealer is asking $269 + tax...we got the HCW 7/100K/0 $925 from a dealer in Delaware...no complaints so far.