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  • david_iowadavid_iowa Member Posts: 3
    Did that include ttl?
  • nandanmvnandanmv Member Posts: 5
    This is a great deal if it includes Tax, Title and all. Did you get any rebates? Any tips?
  • slinghaslingha Member Posts: 16
    $25,400 and I got to pick my color..... Not sure if that is good or not
  • k111k111 Member Posts: 4
    I have been looking/discussing pricing for Camry LE in Dallas area with many dealership and this is the best I have seen so far -

    Camry LE with NO Added options - $21,050 + TTL.

    Is this a good deal ?

    Thank you in advance.
  • wannacamry12wannacamry12 Member Posts: 3
    Hey camryhybrid12.. I think you got a great price. I went to a dealer today and asked them if they can match the price you got and they basically said there was no way.....They said the model with navi, and leather without moonroof hasn't even came out yet. Is there anyone in the SF Bay Area that can come close to the price you have. Anybody????!!

    yoyoma
  • david_iowadavid_iowa Member Posts: 3
    2012 Camry LE (no option): 20800 + ttl
  • alleycat10alleycat10 Member Posts: 18
    From what I've read, the price you have is pretty good. Right now, the Dallas area dealers are not getting holdback cash from Toyota. The average price being paid for the model you are looking at in the Dallas area is over $22,000. I suggest starting with truecar.com for pricing information.
  • blk_in_sfblk_in_sf Member Posts: 5
    Hey Wannacamry12,

    I'm the guy who posted Message #8802 about my XLE Hybrid buying experience in the SF bay area. I used Truecar and came up with a great price using Momentum Toyota in Fairfield, CA. I am in San Jose, so it was about a 2 hour haul to get it, but nobody from Monterey to San Francisco could even come close to the price. The dealership had to do a trade to get my color choice, but I was not charged for the added work.

    I will say, though, I think you may have a problem with a Leather/No Moonroof setup. As it is now, all of the leather XLEs are being built with moonroofs. It even states in the Camry brochure that the Leather Package requires the Power Tilt/Slide Moonroof. You may get lucky and get a dealer to special order the car, but I don't know if they would be willing to give a great price on a special order.

    Please let me know if I can help with any additional info.
  • wannacamry12wannacamry12 Member Posts: 3
    Hi blk_in_sf,
    Thanks for your help. So what was your out the door price?

    yoyoma
  • blk_in_sfblk_in_sf Member Posts: 5
    Hey yoyoma,

    My out the door price was $36008. Included in the price was $31884.40 for the car, $2714.85 for tax (The tax rate is based on where you live, not where you buy the car and we pay BIG sales taxes in the South Bay!), about $400 for license/Registration/Tire/Doc fees, and $999 for the Toyota 7yr/100K Platinum Extended Warranty. I usually don't buy extended warranties, but I worry more about the electronics than the actual moving parts of this car and the price was reasonable, but you can talk to me in 7 yrs and ask me for my opinion then.

    Hope this helps....
  • camryhybrid12camryhybrid12 Member Posts: 18
    edited December 2011
    The price I got was OK, there were lower prices with truecar (e.g. at invoice price) for my area (10-15 miles around Princeton, NJ), as well as from what I read on the web (from few $100s under invoice all the way to $1000 under - for a Camry Hybrid - something is going on, Toyota pushes to close the year and show merit for the redesigned Camry and their sales of cars in general). I wanted to have a relationship with the dealer at first priority (i.e. if there are issues with the car, the dealer will help me get that fixed or, at extreme, exchange it from the maker, Toyota, if major problems are discovered, as well as being able to trade in the car every new generation, get a fair price, get fair service etc), so initial price was not the most important aspect for me. My contacts with the General Manager of this dealership has been going on since May, including questions on the rumors of the new Camry (he wont tell me of course anything that Toyota has not released - usually I sent to him leaks of info and pictures), driving impression, technical questions, etc since very little information was available, including when the car has been released fully. So my price was $500 above invoice which is no problem to match by the way. But dealers may tell you otherwise, so you need to show them you know the prices or else they wont give in. How to show them? Use truecar prices site with other dealers offering cheaper prices, or quote posts from this forum and others on the network.

    I was doing my initial contacts using email/internet. Try to talk with the general manager of the dealership, send emails etc - no need waste your time going in person there at first and will be worse advantage for you. Internet contacts get better prices I think since they know you are free to easily move around with other dealers. I was not deciding to buy a Camry. I was first looking for a dealership I can do business with, hence in my search (which included 30-40 or more dealership) my contacts had to be using internet and prices such as available through Edmunds etc. It has been a long process, the last time I did it, of over 1/2 a year (but was trying to buy a car before.. as I had my old car for 21 years.. every 5-6 years went to try to buy a car, but my way at the time was to first decide on the car and then go to dealers in person and negotiate.. I ended up not being able to buy a car that way as I have sensed the pressure selling and the add ons I was tried to be pushed to buy etc. - took me a while to learn how to buy a car as you can see...). I am sure if you buy now, or next week, you will get such a deal or even better than I got.

    You cannot get leather without getting the moonroof. Toyota has very strict configuration rules, and they wont build one. I was able to get no moonroof because it is allowed, and you can then only get the Entune/Nav (no JBL) and the Convenience package. Really this is way over the options I need or ever use in full, and the audio system sounds very fine to me (you want an expensive audio system - get one for home).

    Researching leather further it seems to me other than some visual look, it does not feel good, in summer or winter and may crack and need more care than the cloth. The cloth seats in my car look very nice (dual color) and seem well built. My last car was cloth too.... lasted 21 years (first owner... ). I am not sure leather will last so long unless caring for it all the time.

    Good luck!
  • mattynjmattynj Member Posts: 1
    Paid $20780 for an LE with power seats and carpet mats in Bergen County, NJ. So far love the car!
  • k111k111 Member Posts: 4
    7 year / 100k warranty worth it for Camry ? Dealership charges $1500.00.
  • wannacamry12wannacamry12 Member Posts: 3
    Thanks camryhybrid12 and blk_in_s for your help. I really appreciate your insights as its been a long time since a bought a new car and so much has changed especially with the internet tools used to track pricing. The frustrating thing is you can't really only pick and choose the features you want to save money. They come in certain packages, and if you really want one feature, pretty much you have to pony up and pay for the additional features that you may not necessary need. I'm waiting for the models that come with leather and navi without moonroof option but it doesn't come in until mid january at the earliest. I'll keep you guys posted.

    yoyoma
  • camryhybrid12camryhybrid12 Member Posts: 18
    edited December 2011
    wannacamry12 and other car buyers - just to make it clear:

    "I'm waiting for the models that come with leather and navi without moonroof option but it doesn't come in until mid january at the earliest. "

    There is no such official Toyota built car. Toyota does not allow you to get leather without getting the moonroof. What a dealer may do is add leather after the build, (i.e. at their local body shop). You need to research what are the configurations Toyota allows for this model as I have done this intensively, not to "save" the cost of an option I do not want (moonroof) but because I did not want the moonroof at any cost.

    I was looking for a fully loaded (incl. blind sport monitoring, safety connect etc) Hybrid XLE but with no moonroof, even offered to pay the price of the moonroof as long as it is not installed. This cannot be done, the General Manager of the dealership went all over, discussing with their regional distributor and Toyota, to check such for me. No can do. He did offer to add leather after I get my base build, at his local body shop (have seen an example of such and it does look nice, though has no variable heating control, only on/off - maybe now they can offer such too).

    So if someone promises to get you leather without moonroof it wont be originally built by Toyota. It is Toyota decision to simplify their production and lower costs hence they do not offer pick your list of options at will but certain limitations and option packages only.

    I am very happy I did not get the leather. I have testdriven a regular XLE with leather and moonroof. The cloth seats feel much better. Even the GM said that leather is over rated and does not feel good in the summer/winter. Also you will have to take care of leather, it may split and the overall bench feels less comfortable than with the cloth. I do not know why, maybe the padding inside is different (more firm or... to prevent the leather damage from stretching ? ).

    I suggest go and get the car and preference (i.e. what is called "special order") one if they cannot find in the all of the USA one that is built as you like without moonroof (I have seen another post from someone in IL who has found such a car and his dealer got it for him - its called trade at port, i.e. no transportation from one dealer lot to yours is involved as long as the car has not yet arrived to the dealer. They have a system where they can "grab" cars being produced before they are shipped to the final dealer and reroute them if needed). If such does not exist, the dealer will be able to preference one of their one allocated cars (the allocation is made by regional distributor to each dealer, e.g. two hybrids XLE) for which such a dealer can decide different colors or options, as long as these are within the constrains of what is allowed with what options from Toyota.

    Probably your dealer is waiting for their new allocation and will get a car without moonroof and without leather and will add leather locally. You need to check if this is the case and if you really want a locally added leather. You can always drive the car as is and add leather latter if you want.

    I was not able to buy a car for 21 years which I had the old car first bought from a dealer. So I can tell you stories about my experience through the years (every 5-6 years have attempted to buy a car). But not as in the past, where I physically went to dealers, and was first looking to choose the car I want, this time I was using the internet trying to choose the dealer first. Before choosing the car. Once I was able to decide on reasonable dealers (I end up with 3 finalists for me, out of 40-50) out of my internet/phone/email/ and various other ways (checking reputation etc), then I looked at which car to buy from these.

    So this was between a VW Passat TDI, Altima, and the Camry. This was back in June and I was waiting for the new Passat and the new Camry (based on the rumors only) to only make the decision now after test driving these.

    In term of price:     I know what are the going on prices having researched them. I did not pay the loest, actually the dealer charged me at least $500 over the going on prices around this area per truecar, which were for invoice. In addition, truecar charges $300 per deal made through them, from the dealers, so I have read. I have seen others buying same model of car and options as I did few $100s lower than invoice. Also I read that some offer to sell any Camry at $500 to $1000 lower than invoice (not going through truecar fixed pricing so they do save the $300 commission). The General Manager told me that he asks customers to pay $1000 over invoice if the contact is through Internet. While I have not negotiated with him, I pointed him to others whom bought cars cheaper, and suggested he may be pricing himself out of the market in those cases buyers shop for price only (not me).

    He did give me a fair price for my old 1990 Pontiac Grand Prix LE... $375 as you have seen. Even if I could sell it for $500 lets say (needed tuneup and repairs, though my oil change person always was asking if I sell it to him), it is fine as it saves the trouble to deal with selling the car.

    Since you hate to pay of options you do not want, be also aware that during the sell process, you may be pressured to buy extra services and add ons, while closing the paperwork at the Finance manager or finance person office, even if you pay cash (such as I have). No need to decide on the spot on these unless you have the info and you want them be included into your lease or finance price (then you need do it there so to finance it together with the car). But, you maybe paying way higher than market price (i.e. internet for extended warranty) and you need to know what you get and if really you want it (lots of very small print involved in these additions). It seems to me these are a source of substantial profit for the dealership. Nothing wrong with it of course, I appreciate people who try to make a living, but you just need to be prepared and know you do not have to take these extras then, can take them latter on and probably at better price if you wish.

    Finally, I think this is best time to buy, not January. That is because all car companies and dealers are in a race to show they are at the first place in sales of their cars/models for the year. If Toyota will lose such, they will have an additional PR hit in the eyes of buyers. Hence I think dealers and Toyota, are making special efforts to close the year at as many cars sold as possible. This may not be the case in Jan. Note that while there are no rebates offered for Camry Hybrid XLE, the dealers maybe getting all type of bonuses to meat quota from Toyota. Car selling is very complex business. I prefer to get my discount not through a rebate but through such indirect dealer bonuses, as such discount will go before tax (i.e. reduce tax
  • dumeelpdumeelp Member Posts: 7
    Should be less than 1000.. approx 700-800 is a good price
  • prowl66prowl66 Member Posts: 2
    I'm Curious, Does your price not include the destination charge and that AD fee they like to mention? seems very low seeing that invoice is about 21800, I believe, without the added mats and power seat. best trucar value here for Dealer Cost is 21361. best price I get is 21900, so far. but I get the college grad 1000 off then
  • alleycat10alleycat10 Member Posts: 18
    Team Toyota Mall of Georgia in Buford includes a lifetime warranty with new Toyota purchases at no extra charge. It requires that one maintain the car per Toyota recommended maintenance schedule and that maintenance be documented. The same is true for the adjacent Hyundai Mall of Georgia dealership for new Hyundai purchases.
  • camryxleownercamryxleowner Member Posts: 3
    Well apparently I got hosed then as I just purchased some extended warranties from Libertyville Toyota in IL - Toyota extra care platinum was quoted at $2,050 for 7 years 100k miles which I purchased. You stated you paid $999 for the same thing. She said she would discount it $100 with a coupon but looking at the paperwork - she never did. (Finance person) so I have to call them about that. Got the 5 year 55k mile VCP Toyota wrap - was told that added to the two years for a total of 7 years. (lube oil filter tire rotation after complimentary 2yr) Also got tire and wheel protection (road damage and unlimited balancing) for 5 years for $349. Purchased a fully loaded xle for $32,300 less $800 trade $31,500 the other day. They showed me msrp being $34,705 and invoice being $32,235.4 (after adding on something they call TDA (described to me as Toyota advertising allowance) of $488 which interestingly is not on the MSRP side) But looking at other posts here - looks like that should have been the price I should have gotten outright - so essentially they gave me nothing for my trade. So I'm ticked and going back on Monday to see if they can give me $800 more or if not I kill the deal. I had a acura rl 1998 gps magazine condition body and interior 1998 Acura RL premium with navigation but it needed ball joints, had a couple bent rims, needed new brakes and brake fluid. Cost to repair from NTB was about $3,100 so decided to trade since my retail I'd get for it would probably be about 4k as the odometer light was out. Only had 166k miles on it though. 6 cd changer, moon roof, nav, heated leather seats and premium package. too bad it only got 20mpg or I'd have fixed and kept but it took premium gas and you could watch the needle drop..
  • camryxleownercamryxleowner Member Posts: 3
    Should be "good" versus. "Gps magazine".... What I get for typing on an iPad
  • camryxleownercamryxleowner Member Posts: 3
    Quote I got for that at Libertville Toyota in Chicago area was $2050 which I purchased. Apparently at $550 more than you and $1051 more than the other guy. Platinum plan for Camry xle
  • blk_in_sfblk_in_sf Member Posts: 5
    edited December 2011
    CamryXLEOwner,

    I think the planets aligned and I just had luck on my side when I got the 7yr/100k plat plan for $999. The salesman started at $2900 and went down to $1999 before I went to finance. I really was not interested in the plan, but the finance guy said "what would it take to purchase the plan today". Not really caring if I got it, I said I would love to call my wife and say I got it for $999. He left the room and came back about 2 min later and said I should call my wife and tell her the good news....As I said, I just never thought they would let it go for that, so I think it was just stupid luck and I was in the right place at the right time...He did say at $999 it was about $100 above their cost, so they are still making money on all of us.....

    Good Luck on Monday
  • cruiserchuckcruiserchuck Member Posts: 2
    I believe that you can cancel an extended warranty within 30 days of purchase. You might want to look into canceling it if you believe you were overcharged.
  • cordelldmcordelldm Member Posts: 1
    Cloth versus leather: I actually prefer the feel of cloth, but my wife and sister assure me that sliding into the seat in a dress is much smoother on leather than on cloth.
  • n2toyotan2toyota Member Posts: 2
    Hi,

    Trying to shop around for 2012 Toyota LE with moonroof. The price I got was $23,392 with power seat and moonroof options w/ grad+2.9% for 60 months. Walked away from the deal. I think base price was quoted around $22,500. Not willing to give around $3K dealer profit. Any tips and advise to expand the research. I am kind of disappointed in the local dealers.

    Thanks
  • parth11parth11 Member Posts: 1
    hi i read your post about the Camry Le did brought that car for $20,750 with tax and tittle or without those thing. if you can give me my answer then that would be soo help full to me.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Member Posts: 2,697
    edited December 2011
    The poster said "out the door" and that it included "everything," so that would include taxes but I wish they would stop doing that or at least specify how much of the price applied to tax, title and license.
    Giving nothing but a grand total price you paid makes it harder for anyone else to compare prices because tax and license fees vary in different states and sometimes even between different cities in the same state.
    If the person had a trade-in involved, that also makes the deal not comparable because the dealers play games with trade-in values either to make extra profit on the trade-in or to pay off an underwater trade-in or both.
    Unitemized grand totals and trade-ins always contaminate any kind of comparison with anyone else here.
    What matters is how much money went to pay the dealer for the car and any other add-on fees the dealer charged such as dealer prep charges and doc fees, was there was a trade-in, did you accept their financing or bring your own, did you buy accessories and extended warranties etc.? All those things make a difference.
  • nandanmvnandanmv Member Posts: 5
    I bought an LE for 20,991 +TTL at Schaumburg toyota, IL. The price included power driver seat and mats.
  • xoomoonxoomoon Member Posts: 1
    Hi,

    Can you give us the breakdown and the options you had?
    I'm interested in buying a brand new camry too. I'm in orange county california.

    thanks
    Ryan
  • vanvenumvanvenum Member Posts: 8
    Yesterday, I a bought a Camry 2012 SE with standard features. I wanted mp3 & blue tooth, and it is standard. (no premium or convenience package). I asked for 900 below invoice, and said I'll buy today from Lawrenceville, NJ. It worked over the phone.
    MSRP:24883
    PAID:21826
    Trade:1250
    Customer Rewards : 100 (becuase I service my van there)
    With TTL On the road : 22203
    Got 2.9% 60months

    I pulled the whole thing without much reading. ;)
    PL opine for others to compare.

    I declined the extended warranty because it 1500$, and they want to reduce only by 100. Same dealer gave extentended warranty for 880$. TFS told me when I bought, it can be bought before the 3year ends, and it can be bought from any toyota dealer. Pl give your insight on this.
  • aishaish Member Posts: 5
    edited December 2011
    I am looking to buy Camry 2012 SE with 8-way powerseat and carpet set which basically comes with the car. I am from VA and a MD dealer is offering 22,200.00 OTD price. No trade-in. VA has 3.17% tax processing fee they charge 199.00. Is it a good price?

    BTW, the MSRP is $24425.oo.
  • easylivineasylivin Member Posts: 2
    Seeing as how I used this forum to help me before I purchased my Camry LE Hybrid , I thought I would register and let everyone know what I paid. MSRP was $27,217 , paid $25,000 + $250 doc fee + tax . Don't know if the hybrid is worth the extra money but it is what I wanted and I love the car. What do you think of the deal?
  • pilot2012_exlpilot2012_exl Member Posts: 8
    with power seat and mats, Bought today for 20300( including Destination) + TTL in MD/VA along with 2.9% finance. Will also be using the $500 Edmunds toyota camry rebate!!!

    hope this info help someone for the year end events as this forum has helped me a lot.
  • raytracerraytracer Member Posts: 3
    Is the $500 Edmunds rebate still available? I tried search for camry inventory and clicking ads for several times but couldn't find that. Popup blocker is off.
  • vanvenumvanvenum Member Posts: 8
    My SE's MSRP is 24883, and paid 21826.
    I heard from my friend fitzmall.com in MA is having excellant price. You should
    ask for 1000$ below invoice. Today is the best day.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Member Posts: 2,697
    I'm not sure sliding into a seat is a really a valid excuse for leather. However, even though I normally prefer cloth, the 2012 cloth in the XLE is a bit rough and crude like something I'd expect more in a pickup truck. Not as soft and refined as the previous generation cloth at all.
    Makes me wonder if they did that on purpose to get more people to upgrade to leather.
  • nandanmvnandanmv Member Posts: 5
    Ryan,

    The only option I added was the driver power seat. I bought the 2012 Camry le.

    Thanks
  • pilot2012_exlpilot2012_exl Member Posts: 8
    Try surfing for Honda Accord SE or LX-P and you will see it as next to top layer of Advertisements on the page. On thursday i was continously getting it even while surfing for Toyota Camry itself but do visit the competition too to see if it comes on

    Good Luck.
  • aishaish Member Posts: 5
    edited December 2011
    Thanks Vanvenum. Fianlly bought Camry SE with only power seat and carpet for
    OTD - $22000.00(fitzmall reduced another $200 today).
    Before TTL the price is $21059. The invoice price is $22662.00.
    I wanted Cosmic grey which we liked very much and this color was available only with fitzmall (that too only one car they had with MSRP $24425). No dealer in nearby DC metro area has the car with that color. To get to my price the manager gave 2 toyota rebates of $250.

    I have Toyotathon sharethon promotion certificate for $1000 and edmunds.com rebate for $500.00. Hopefully I get both of them without any issues. Then my Final price would be 22000(OTD) - 1000 - 500 = $20500.

    One thing I realized with this car buying experience, internet salesman don't send their best quotes in mail. If you talk to them they go over the price orally and ask you to come for test drive. Afterthat if you visit them they really work with us and try to finish the deal buy offering additional discounts. May be they are afraid that buyers would be using their email quotes to get better rates from other dealers.
  • aishaish Member Posts: 5
    edited December 2011
    Anyone planning to buy toyota carmy and wants toyotathon certificate?. I have an extra one.
  • aishaish Member Posts: 5
    edited December 2011
    Your price is great price. where did you buy in MD?
  • pilot2012_exlpilot2012_exl Member Posts: 8
    Aish - Congrats! You got a great deal as well. I was not aware of $1000 certificate. I bought it yesterday from the same dealer as yours.
    I can use the extra certificate that you have..... but not sure if it has limitations like the same name requirements on the buyers contract like the edmunds rebate....
  • s110s110 Member Posts: 3
    Hi. I could use a Sharethon promotional certificate if you still have it.

    If anyone else has one that they will not be using, I will appreciate if you can share it.

    Thanks.
  • rampramp Member Posts: 11
    I am planning to buy a Camry, could you please share it if you have a Sharethon promotional certificate.

    Thanks.
  • rampramp Member Posts: 11
    Aish,

    I am planning to buy a Camry in Phoenix, AZ, could you please send me the Sharethon promotional certificate.

    Thanks.
    Ram
  • jhart333jhart333 Member Posts: 1
    After much back and forth in calls upon calls to about seven dealers here in Connecticut, I signed today for a Camry SE with power seat, carpeted mats, all-weather mats, bumper applique, mudguards, door sill enhancer, and new plates for the OUT THE DOOR price of $23,467. No trade-in. This includes Conn.'s 6.35 percent sales tax and $175 for a new registration.

    Buying the last day of the year really saved me some bucks. Five dealers dropped out of the pricing death match and I had a great price from Hartford Toyota. But that salesman wouldn't call me back, so just before I drove there prepared to fight in person for the price he had agreed to on the phone, I called two more Conn. dealers. One said "If you can get it at the price, buy it." Then Hoffman Toyota called back and agreed to beat it by $250 plus add the doorsill enhancers. They were super easy to deal with, honored everything they said they would, no games, no hassles. Kudos also to Middletown Toyota. They were great to deal with, but just couldn't the price Hartford had promised me. Thumbs way down to Hartford for not calling me back after I left two messages. Thanks to all who posted here previously. You all helped me make my deal. Picking up my cosmic grey mica with black/black interior from Hoffman Toyota next week. I can't wait.
  • nova_camrynova_camry Member Posts: 1
    I bought a 2012 Camry XLE with the leather and convenience package for $25,199 with tags, taxes, etc. I paid $26,411. Did I get a deal or not? I've been trying to find the true car value for the dealer, but different sites say different things and I could never find any information on dealer rebates. They were having computer problems, so I still have an out since all the paperwork couldn't be completed.
  • avacado12avacado12 Member Posts: 8
    I would like to get you certificate. Is it still available?
    Thanks!
  • avacado12avacado12 Member Posts: 8
    Happy New Year everyone!
    If you happened have an extra Toyotathon Sharethon Certificate, Please let me know. Just got Carmy LE with OTD $22820 (7% tax). Not sure about if it is a good deal, just want to share information.
  • easylivineasylivin Member Posts: 2
    If anyone has a Toyota Sharethon certificate they are not going to use, I would like to have one also. Thanks
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