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I remember the last Range Rover he reviewed and how he complained that the buttons were all pictographs with little English characters on them. Well guess what the Range Rover is sold in close to 190 countries many of which don't even use western style characters. What should Land Rover do make 150 different labeled buttons for a low production, somewhere around 50,000 units worldwide a year, vehicle?
How could he have trouble releasing the parking brake? The message center in the instrument cluster tells you how to release the brake. It comes up with a message that says, "Push down paddle and hold foot brake to release parking brake." If you put the car in drive or reverse and touch the gas then the park brake releases automatically.
Then the DVD player I mean come on how could you not figure that out. With the entertainment screen up, you get it up by pressing the music note button pretty intuitive really, you hit the button marked DVD to play the movie on the front screen while in park only. You have the screen up in the second picture of the blog.
To turn on the rear screens you hit the button to the right of the DVD button the one that looks like a seat with someone sitting behind it and a music note again. At that point you can select what audio and video sources go to the rear screens. You can plug in a gaming system to RCA ports located in the center console. Someone can watch a movie on one screen while another person plays a video game and listens to the satellite radio.
Finally you have the price and yes 95,000 dollars is a lot of money but it is the price of exclusivity. Approximately 12,500 Range Rovers are imported each year to the US. Less then 2,000 of those will be supercharged Range Rovers. You could probably get a Cayenne Turbo for about the same price as a supercharged Range Rover but it wouldn't have any options. Porsche makes EVERYTHING optional so in order to get similar equipment to the Range Rover the MSRP on the Cayenne would be about 116,000 dollars. There are a lot more cayennes on the road then Range Rovers as well.
I got the luxury package seats. Anyone got any good tips on caring for the leather please?
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I don't think there would be any issues. The heating elements are narrow and widely spaced compared with the detector's wavelength. Someone with hands on experience may know for sure.
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1. Pull over to the side of the road.
2. Engage Park with gear selector.
3. Enter destination in NAV system.
Works like a charm every time!
My point is that it is extremely foolish even to think of diverting one's attention from the serious business of driving while a 6,000+ pound vehicle is in motion.
Why do we need a hack to disable a key safety feature in the NAV? That's why it won't work while the vehicle is rolling. If there is such a code floating around the Internet, it doesn't need to show up on Edmunds as it would be promoting illegal modification of the software.
The gents who were asking for this need to take a deep breath and find something else to do. Read the owner's manual--detail the vehicle yourself--go for a long drive offroad, etc., etc.
The code everyone is talking about is disabled on all 2007 and up Land Rovers along with any 2005-2006 Land Rover that gets the nav update from navteq.
These guys who can't be satisfied with a perfectly adequate ride just get me going... Reminds me of the yahoo who dominated a group trail ride a few years back. You know the type--big Hella lights and bull bar on the front of his RR. He wanted to impress everyone by charging the next hill. He went airborne at the top and broke something essential when he landed. Had to limp about 10 miles back to pavement in 2WD. Lucky for him he was in a Range Rover, or he never would have made it out!
I had my truck up in the mountains this weekend and the temperature dropped to about 26. When started it sounded like a belt was loose or something a loud squeal. It continued for about an hour driving no stop through the mountains at average speed of about 55. Any one have any ideas on this or do I need to take it to the dealer?
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It's hard to say from your short description why you would get a noise like that, although I sometimes had that happen with my former Jeep when the AC drive belt got a little older and the weather was cold and dry.
If you were wading in the vehicle, and splashed sand, mud or grit into the under-carriage, it's always a good idea to give it a thorough cleaning afterwards. Otherwise, it could contribute to wear and tear. I would defer to the dealer's service staff before applying any "belt dressing" or other spray-on stuff to quiet a noisy belt.
Enjoy your travels and let your friends know how much fun you're having in the boonies. That will usually stop any questions about why you're taking your RR off road.
Any suggestion on how to protect the car off-road? Does the A-frame protection bar help? So far the paint is holding up really well.
As for the paint, keeping the vehicle clean, covered parking (when you're not exploring!) and a good coat of wax is your best protection. Zymol--www.zymol.com--sells a great liquid wax for SUV's. I have used it on mine and it stands up to the Arizona sun, dust, mud and the occasional swipe from overhanging brush.
If I then turn the ignition off then restart the car all is fine.
I have taken it to the dealership twice and they have upgraded some software, but the problem keeps reoccurring. Any thought?
Many people have suggested that letting the vehicle run through its self check procedure before you start the car cuts down on extraneous check engine/suspension lights. Turn the key to the on position and wait till the steering wheel comes to a rest in your lap before you start the car. You end up waiting between five and seven seconds to start the vehicle but it does seem to work.
It is missing the CD magazine for the changer. I called Land Rover up for getting a replacement and they quoted almost $80 for it. I know that it is a Clarion unit and I can find CD magazines for this for around $40 online.
Any information on the exact model that is installed.
The P38 body style Rovers from 1995-2002 are much, much less reliable then the Mark III Range Rovers from 2003-current.
The only P38 I would buy is a 2000-2002 that has extensive service records.
Thanks for your help.
However, my mechanic swears RR are all like that, and indeed we've tried another '06 RR, same slow warm up cycle. Has anybody had a different experience?
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I have owned it for a little bit over 1 month and have over 5,000 miles on it (Yikes :surprise: ).
The Vehicle has been running flawlessly. All I want to do is drive and drive and drive. I discover new pleasure in it everyday. :shades:
I bought the HSE model. And after about 2 weeks I was wishing that I had bought the Supercharger. Then I discovered that if I move the gear stick to the left, that the transmission shift point changes and it then moves like a raped ape on fire.
Anyway that's all. Happy New Year to my Asian mates.
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Very possible it will have the LRX styling
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1990 Range Rover Classic, County Edition. It has 102,000 miles on it. A mechanic is selling it because I believe his customer could not pay him for the brake system that was redone.
He has been the mechanic on this vehicle for 4 years. Recent water pump, oil pump, all new brakes, and the head gaskets were replaced a few years ago.
It runs and drives perfectly, and is mostly Land Rover stock
It is in very good condition, and he is asking $1200 for it.
Is this a good deal?
One more observation, from our initial test drive, it seems like the DVD system can only be used with headsets not through speaker system.
Can anyone shed some light please?
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I have 2 small children and my primary goal in purchasing a new vehicle is to provide them a safe enviornment - especially regarding a side curtain airbag system. I bought this vehicle because I was led to believe by numerous Land Rover press releases and told by my salesman that curtain style airbags replaced the prior tubular design for 1st row and small pillow design for 2nd row passengers.
While looking through a 2008 RR HSE brouchure a year later I noticed a diagram of all the airbags fully deployed in the vehicle. You can clearly see the new torso and drivers knee airbags. Unfortunatly they also show the old tubular style (1st row) and small pillow head airbag for 2nd row. The 2007 brouchure I viewed when buying my vehicle had no such pictures to support the claims of the new system. The tiny pillow style 2nd row airbag is mounted very high and doesn't deploy low enough to offer children the same protection that a curtain style would. WHERE ARE THE CURTAIN STYLE 1st & 2nd row AIRBAGS I WAS PROMISED BY NUMEROUS LAND ROVER PRESS RELEASES AND MY SALESPERSON.
When contacting my dealer I was told that the picture used in the 2008 brouchure was of the old airbag configuration and not accurate. If this is true why does the picture illustrate the NEW torso and drivers kneee airbags?
It's really too bad because the vehicle itself is very nice, but my childrens safety will always come first. I feel the public is definetly being misled on this very important safety feature, and Land Rover still uses misleading verbage in todays brouchures. SHAME ON YOU LAND ROVER. This isn't how you win over customers.
Your model year Range Rover was designed by BMW, a car company that has a long and well-deserved reputation for protecting the safety of drivers and passengers in its vehicles. Their customers routinely write to tell the company about surviving accidents that would have caused death or serious injury in any other vehicle because their Bimmers were so well-designed and built. (FWIW, I survived a side impact crash in a BMW - before the advent of side impact air bags - and was able to drive my vehicle to the body shop for repairs. They are that tough.)
Consider the fact that the primary passenger safety system in any vehicle is the seat and shoulder belt system. If your kids are buckled in before you put the truck into gear, you have done the best thing you can do to protect them from harm in th event of an accident. If they are not yet old enough to use seat belts, then they should be belted in a properly secured, second-row car seat. Properly securing your loved ones inside a truck as tall, massive, and well-built as a Range Rover is the best thing you can do for them as a parent.
Second, remember that air bags are only supplemental safety systems. And in the case of side airbags, their primary function is to keep arms and heads inside the vehicle in the event of a side impact, and to prevent - to the extent possible - debris or other objects from entering a window. They also serve to protect against harm from impact with hard surfaces inside the truck. They were never intended to protect occupants from absorbing the kinetic forces of the initial impact the way that the steel frame and crush zones of the vehicle will. By belting your kids in properly, you are keeping them away from the exterior frame and body members that will absorb and re-direct the forces of a crash. You will also keep them away from the hard surfaces inside that can cause harm from secondary impacts. Isolation = safety.
Third, any safety system, like an air bag system, is one of the most intensively engineered and tested components of a vehicle. The risk of liability suits prompts all automakers to do their best to assure that these systems provide the protection that consumers are expecting. On the face of it, there is nothing to say that a full curtain air bag provides a measurably greater benefit than a tubular system.
Fourth, there may be another logical explanation for why the marketing materials showed one type of system and the production vehicle has a slightly different one installed. These are very complicated devices and only a limited number of companies make them. Considerations of price, availability, integration with other interior components such as seats and interior moldings, and regulatory approvals all affect the final configuration of the vehicle. The fact remains that you are driving a vehicle that has a side-impact supplemental restraint system. That's a lot more than many other manufacturers offer.
Please, before suggesting that Land Rover failed to serve your needs as a customer, go back to your dealer and have someone who knows the vehicle show you the location of the air bags in your truck. You're driving one of the safest vehicles on the planet and you're a good parent.
But you can't ignore the facts. Most newer vehicles that have a head protection system (even the RR sport) use curtain style airbags for 1st & 2nd rows. And I really wouldn't care if RR continued with the original tube and pillow style system, I simply would have chosen to purchase a different vehicle that offered what some safety experts consider to be a safer system, such as a full curtain airbag. My only issue lies with how Land Rover irresponsibly promoted this as a redesign of the safety airbags to INCLUDE NEW CURTAIN AIRBAGS FOR BOTH ROWS. This is false and misleading.
No matter how well engineered a RR is and how safe it is in many other regards I was SIMPLY MISLED by the company when they put in writing in their 2007 brouchure that the RR had a new curtain style airbag system for head protection. I was also MISLED when the sales rep told me the same thing upon purchasing the vehicle.
I think the RR is a great vehicle, and as you said very, very safe and superior to other vehicles in many regards. But accidents DO happen and head protection for small children (or anyone for that matter) is incredibly important to ME, maybe not yourself. The depicted pillow style airbag in the 2nd row is very small, mounted high and does not extend low enough to protect young children and also leaves a great deal of the back window exposed where debris could enter through the window. Look at the picture of the so called "curtain style" airbags deployed in a 2008 RR brouchure and then tell me if you would'nt rather have your children in a vehicle with an actual curtain style system.
Upon contacting Land Rover North Americas corporate offices via their email correspondence, I was told that the illustration in brouchures are correct and the airbags depicted are accurate. THIS IS NOT what a 1st & 2nd ROW CURTAIN AIRBAG looks like.