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Pontiac Solstice

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  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    check with your local dealers......they should be hitting the lots anytime now....at least by the end of Oct I would say.....base pricing was just announced recently...
  • Introduction
    The Pontiac Solstice gained popularity after the 2007 blockbuster hit Transformers, where the Pontiac Solstice was the autobot form of Jazz. The sleek little sports car is as quick as it looks. So if your debating buying a car from this class I would recommend taking a look at the latest American design in the group.
    This report is intended to compare the Pontiac Solstice with its nearest competitors in its class and make the argument that pound for pound and dollar for dollar that this is one of the best roadsters that a sports car enthusiast can purchase. The nearest competitors that the Solstice has are the BMW Z4, the Porsche Boxter, and the Mazda RX-7.
    Overview
    When benchmarked against these close competitors in its class the Solstice has a better price tag and out performs these cars. It also gains style points amongst Americans because it is the first American roadsters of its kind entering the market in this price range. Typically American sports cars are pictured as the high end V-8 mustangs and corvettes. The Solstice being one of the first performance four cylinders made in America by an American car company.
    The Pontiac Solstice hit the market in 2006 with that year being the first year of production. For the price which ranges from $24,000 to $31,500 it performs remarkably well when compared to the rest of its class. The five main categories to look at when evaluating a car are; power train, suspension, exterior, interior, and performance.
    Performance
    The first thing to look at when grading any sports car is the power train which is of course the engine. The Solstice has two engine options available through the production year of 2008. Both of them are inline four engines built by eco-tech. The base Solstice has a 2.4 liter regularly aspirated motor while the GXP version houses a 2.0 liter SIDI (spark ignition direct injection) turbo charged generation II motor. The base car can hit 177 horsepower at 5100 revolutions per minute while the GXP’s 2.0 liter can muster up 260 horsepower at 5100 rpms. While the GXP has substantially more horsepower both of these solstices have an admirable pound to horsepower ratio. It is rumored in late 2009 the Solstice GXP will have an optional 300 horsepower small block V8 available.
    Engine
    The Solstice GXP’s generation II ecotec engine block which produces 2.1 horsepower per cubic inch is what is impressive. GM thought of everything when designing this engine. The fuel is directly injected into the combustion chamber, which is a characteristic of diesel engines and uncommon in gasoline motors. However, by doing this it increases fuel efficiency and increases the power output of the car. The newest technology was applied to the turbo aspiration system. It has a dual scroll turbo turbine that is fed by the dual exhaust coming off the engine. This allows for quicker turbo boost and less lag in the turbo system. When needed an impressive 20 pounds of forced air can be pushed into the cylinders on only 2900 rpms being made by the engine. All of this engineering allows this new 2.0 liter Ecotec engine to be one of the leaders of all of the four cylinder engines in production in the world today in both power and fuel efficiency. (New Ecotec 2.0L Direct Injection Turbo Engine, 2006) The picture to the right is of the 2.0 turbo engine by General Motors from worldcarfans.com.
    Suspension
    General Motors did not skimp on the suspension of the vehicle either. The car has four wheel independent suspensions with the power being distributed to the rear wheels. The car gets off the line efficiently because the rear wheel drive also is linked to a limited slip differential which is standard on the GXP model. Four disk brakes are connected air cooled high density steel rotors for maximum braking. Also, each wheel is suspended by an adjustable Bilstein mono tube shock absorber.
    Exterior
    The exterior catches the eye of many sports car enthusiasts by being smooth and soft. At night the car is noticed from a distance with high output xenon head lamps and fog lights. Another noticeable characteristic is the standard 18 inch, five spoke chrome wheels with silver polished wheels available. The car comes in 9 colors ranging from pearlescent white to mysterious black. All of the paint colors are shiny and bright, which is appreciated on all sports cars.
    Interior
    There are only a few interior options that are available on the Solstice, everything else is standard. Of these available options is an upgradable sound system, leather seats, and chrome pedals. All of the power options are standard.
    The interior is easy on the eyes as well. Motorcycle style chrome driver assist gauges are one of the characteristics that remind you that you are in a sports car. At night the entire dash and control panel are lit up in a sporty red, even the turbo boost gauge that gives a constant readout on the air pressure in the engine.
    The one drawback of the car is it is small. When the top is up the solstice can bring about a cluster phobic feel on the driver and one passenger. If you are a tall person you may have an issue with the 5 cubic meters of cargo space which includes the driver and passenger cabin. If you are planning on going on a trip there is no storage room in the trunk which is only big enough to house the fold down cloth top. With all of that being said, in the summer with the top down there is no feeling better than being free, low, and quick in the Solstice.
    Conclusion and Recommendation
    The Pontiac Solstice is light and quick with its turbo charged inline four engine. It can get up from stopped to 60 miles per hour in 5.4 seconds. This beats out its near competitors of the RX-7, Z4, and the Boxter. The braking and cornering comes in just average. The turning and feel on the suspension is more what the driver likes, but if you like a hard sense on the steering the Pontiac is right for you.
    When compared to its class the average price for the Solstice GXP is around $28,000. You are getting a lot of zip for your buck in the Pontiac Solstice. Compared to the Z4 BMW which has 225 pounds of torque and 255 horsepower comes in at $39,000. The Mazda RX-7 has 212 horsepower in its rotary motor and comes in at the same price as the Solstice GXP. Among the biggest bragging rights of the Solstice is that it is faster than the Porsche Boxter which has a 245 horsepower inline 6 engine and a hefty price tag in its class with the average starting price of $42,000. The Pontiac Solstice with a competitive price and performance engine has the bragging rights on the streets against these high dollar German and Japanese imports.
    When compared to its class the Pontiac Solstice excels in almost every category and for this reason I feel that it is worth the money if you like the styling for this little sports car. The best part about this car is that it is built here in America and is 100% American. I recommend the S
  • spoomspoom Posts: 85
    Nope, tried it once with my GXP and it's not worth it. Keep in mind I'm 53 years old, from the Midwest, and I'm "not skeered o snow" one bit. The light weight of the car, power to weight, & wide tires are a real problem. The traction control is working overtime and will just wear out your rear brakes. Only way it'd be half decent would be to put skinny, agressive tread tires on for the winter. For me it isn't worth it so I park it in the garage with Stabil and a battery tender, & breathable cover. Got the 4x4 PU for winter and we're expecting 9"-12" in the next 16 hours anyway :(
  • 2009 Solstice GXP, Wicked (copper), premium package, other niceties like upgraded audio and sport pedals, etc. With GM dealers needing to sell cars, got this $32,900 MSRP car for $26,900 out-the-door.
    Have wanted one since the 2004-5 concept cars. Sold my beloved 2002 Firehawk, which I tired of owning---taking care of that rare 'Bird and using it for carshows and only fair weather driving was getting to be too much. The GXP should fill my adrenilin needs just fine.....
    Will be installing the new GM Stage II Turbo upgrade to lift the car to 290hp and 340 torque.
    I already own a 2007 MX-5, so I know what a road-hugging 2-seat roadster is all about, but my test drives in the GXP tell me that this car will provide a different experience altogether.....
  • gogocartgogocart Posts: 1
    I have had my Solstice for 3 yrs. I am in Love every time I see it. The proformance is great. I can say that I have ever been dissappointed. Love it his Name is Bruno.
  • will17will17 Posts: 2
    I fell in love with the Pontiac Solstice the first time I saw it in person. My father owns one, and so far, great little car. Unfortunately, I have been reading that Pontiac is being phased out, and was wondering if the Solstice was going to be re-badged as a Chevy, or is this the end of the Solstice too? Anybody know?
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    the entire Pontiac line will be phased out in 2010 to include the Solstice.....09MY production is finishing current orders on file......will see if they begin 10MY production or not......

    dealers in my area have plenty of 08s on the floor...and even a few 07s not to mention their influx of 09s.......should be able to get some great deals out there in 2010 as the line phases out....

    we own an 06 since Dec of 05 and love it....looking to pick up a GXP now.....and keeping our 06 one as well.....
  • Writing from Canada. Picked up my Solstice near the middle of January. I trailered it to my home, about 225 kliks. It was covered in the driveway, for 2 months longer. We had a terrible winter in Muskoka. I started driving it in mid March. Even had the top down, early. And, let me tell you, it is not rocket science, to drop or raise the top. I can do it, in less than a minute. I will agree, about luggage space, with the top down. Belay the cup holders, who cares. They are in the same category as ash trays. It is a black GXP, 5 speed, goes like a bat outta of hell, and gets great mileage! Handles well, and shifts well, just watch the red line in first gear, under full acceleration. As to these so called experts, who tested the Solstice, they must be very girlish. Some wag, said bring tools, re: the top raising and lowering. What, sweetie, afraid you might break a nail? I love it, and the end of Pontiac, is a pity, indeed. Buy North American! It could be your neighbour's job.
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    dont think you will ever see the convertible as a collector item unless you have the very last one or the very first one manufactured....the coupe with around a 1000 or so total production will be much more rare than the convertible.....but again....if its the first one or last one...with limited miles in 20 years....you never know
  • But who would have thought, 40 years ago, that Austin Healey 100-6 and 3000's would fetch the price that they now get, at the auctions. I don't drive my roadster every day, I have another vehicle. I do plan to keep it for awhile. I still say, that it draws more than its share of admiring glances. And, IMO, outclasses the much beloved car of the test ladies, (Miata) in looks alone. Then there is the power advantage, of the GXP. This car is alot of fun, and a great ice breaker with the ladies and car enthusiasts. There are not that many up here, north of Toronto and London, Ontario.I got a great deal on the car, when I bought it in the winter, from a dealer in Burlington. Looking through the on line Auto Trader, the prices are $5000 higher for a used one now, with lots of kliks on them. So, who knows?
  • Purchase my Soltice new in 07, at 4,063miles had to replace the rear and replaced rear tires because of uneven wear,at 5,010 had to replace door lock on driver side door, at 5.097 trunk lid to be realign, at 6,988 wind noise from both windows had to readjusted, at 8,481 had to replace the transmission and ignition assy. Mileage on car now is 8,541. I don't abuse this car its garage kept and cover. Paid $26,500 and tried to sell it, the best offer was $15,000. I have to admit its a sharp looking car, but would not recommend it to anyone, will never buy a GM product again.
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    sorry you had so many problems with your Solstice....we purchased an 06 N/A and took possession in Dec 05...paid full MSRP at the time so drove it off the lot for just at $25K. We put 41K on the car and never had a problem with it that wasn fixed correctly the first time by our dealer....the major issue was replaced of the rear differential, which apparently was the weak link in the early MY 06 and 07 Sols...

    uneven tire wear and replace rear tires at 5k....that does seem a bit excessive, how uneven was the wear....trunk lids are problematic if you force them close the wrong way or stuff too much in the "trunk."..Wind noise is subjective since it is a convertible, most involve tweaks to the top or replacement of seals, replacement of the transmission...that seems the major item with such low mileage on the car....again...you seem to perhaps got a bad one off the line....

    we were extremely happy with the car during the five years we owned it and we would certainly recommend it, if you could get a good maintenance history for the vehicle..as far as trade in values go.....cars certainly arent an investment, and depending on the time of year and location, pricing for convertibles can be problematic, also consider the brand no longer exists, which also impacted values IMO....we traded ours in Dec 10 for $10.5, which was auction pricing at the time...just under KBB...

    I own two other GM cars as well...04 Chevy Malibu Maxx with 180K on it and running strong and an 09 Cadillac CTS with 36K, with no concerns as well...The Solstice was traded in on a 11 Outback Subaru.....
  • ...so far. Bought 2009 GXP in Dec. 2008. Only warranty matter was a leaking rear diffy which was corrected just after delivery. Only 3000 miles on her, but, still, not a hint of any of the problems you list. If I had to deal with what you've been through, I'd be disappointed too.
  • I bought a new '06 Solstice. Had to have a shock replaced while it was still under warranty. Other than that, no problems whatsoever. I drive it all year long, even in the snow. Rarely listen to the radio, so the CD player's been running for five years. I can fit everything in it that I need to go camping: Tent, sleeping bag, cooler, clothes, etc. I camped in PA, OH, SC, VA. The only problem is I can't take anyone with me (if you consider that a problem). The paint and leather seats still look great, even though my dog often rides in the passenger seat and hangs her paws over the side. I'm on my second set of tires at 34K, but I used to do a lot more doughnuts with it than I do since I got married. My wife didn't like the car at first, calling it a "player car", but now she loves it, too. Plus it looks even better with a beautiful woman in it. The first time I saw one, I said, "That's my next car." It's one of the best decisions I've ever made. I'm kinda glad they don't make them anymore, because that makes them even more unique. When you're driving a Solstice, it makes Mustangs look like a dime a dozen.
  • cjacobcjacob Posts: 1
    I have a 2007 Solstice. I am considering adding the rear Windguard option. Has anyone had this added. Is it effective and worth the expense. How about the appearance ?
  • I don't have one on mine, but a friend of mine does. He likes it, had it customized, and it lights up when you have your lights on. He said it does help minimize the wind coming in from the back.
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    its subjective to be honest...we had a customized one from windrestrictor done for ours back in 2007....wired it to the rear tail lights...led lights from the bottom...and installed an on off switch in the A pillar....

    it does cut wind turbulence down on the highway with the side winds up...much below 35 MPH you cant tell a difference.....at highway speeds you can actually carry on a conversation...hear the stereo....and feel the heater working...as needed....
  • timlangetimlange Posts: 2
    I have a clear Windrestrictor (brand) on my 2007 Solstice GXP. It made a big difference, glad we got it. Very easy to install. We got the type 2 which installs right behind the seats.
  • Bought my Solstice new in 2007, one of the worst cars, I ever own, had to replaced the rear suspension at 4,950 miles and a new transmission at 8,400, plus it was in the shop for other issues, paid $28,000 had the car for sale for a year (Garage kept, 8,400 miles). The best offer was $15,000. Will never buy a GM product again. Have a 2004 Pathfinder with 93,000 on it and the only repair to it is brakes. Hate to say but quality is not built into American cars.
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    you make a blanket statement on american cars based on one car....a broad brush statement .....we too had an 06 solstice...had it for over 5 years...put 41K on it...had some minor problems..all fixed under warranty to include a new differentail....were you issues fixed under warranty since you had the 5/100k drive train warranty?....I also have two other GM cars which have been flawless less some minor wear and tear items...04 Chevy Malibu Maxx with 185K and a 09 Cadillac CTS with 26K on it...

    as for selling the sol...it is certainly a niche car...and most people dont use it as a primary driver...you didnt say what part of the country you are from or when you tried or finally sold the car..in what month....all make a huge difference for a two seat convertible...

    again...sorry for the bad owner experience.....most of us enjoyed it while we owned it..and many loyal solstice fans are still out there attending a national meet each year.......
  • garnermikegarnermike Posts: 72
    edited July 2011
    IN REPLY TO "disappointed07"

    I have owned over 30 new cars since I was 22--I am now 62. Have own many brands, mostly GM. Yes, I have owned a few crappy GMs, but also some crappy Fords, Chryslers, Dodges, Jeeps, AND some recent crappy Nissans (Sentra '08), Toyotas (Camry '01) and Hondas (Civic '06). My experience with Pontiacs has been very good (Firebird '96, Firehawk '02 and Solstice '09).

    I would be an idiot to base my future buying on a single bad experience with a particular brand/model.

    BTW, best new car I've ever owned? 2007 Kia Rondo---40K miles and nary a single repair/warranty issue since taking delivery. 21-28 mpg, hauls all my large musical gear, smooth quiet drive. Too bad they don't make it anymore for the US.
  • gmcustsvcgmcustsvc Posts: 4,166
    disappointed07,
    I apologize for your frustrations. Can you please send me your VIN, current mileage and involved dealer? I would like to look into this further.
    Christina
    GM Customer Service
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    Christina,

    in reading his message..I believe he has already sold the car...at least according to the title of the msg
  • gmcustsvcgmcustsvc Posts: 4,166
    pao,
    I thought it may be possible someone else sold their Solstice and he was discussing his concerns with his Solstice (oops). Either way, I’m out here to help anyone experiencing concerns. Enjoy your day!
    Christina
    GM Customer Service
  • I'm just curious if anyone else has had an issue with their solstice making a rubbing sound when lightly pressing the accelerator in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gear? I bought my solstice used and its an 07 gxp so I think since it only has 80k on it it's still covered under warranty right?
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    you should have a 5 yr 100K warranty on the drivetrain.....
  • Wow! 80K on an '07?! I just turned 50K on my '07 GXP and thought I drive it a lot. No rubbing noise for me though. Is it a high frequency or low frequency noise? Have you checked on the kappaperformance and solsticeforum forums?

    I fixed two squeaks on mine. On rough roads the driver's door squeaks due to a loose striker pin. I used a center punch around the pin to keep it from jiggling. Top down squeak, I now cover my top with a black terrycloth towel, keeps the two hatch pads from making a mark and makes a snug fit between the top and the hatch. Email me at timlange3 at gmail dot com if you want more information.
  • Christina,
    I am having a water leak problem with my 2006 Solstice. The drivers side seatbelt is completely wet after a rain shower. Everything else (including trunk) is dry. Seatbelt was not caught in door... and top was not off! I've seen a couple of posts with this same issue, and "pillars", and "tulip panels" are mentioned but mean nothing to me. Any ideas, or at least pictures of the above mentioned? Thx.
  • Pubman,

    I’m sorry to hear that you have a leaking concern with your Solstice. We can look into any open recall information on your vehicle, or assist with working with a dealership towards resolving this concern. Please email us your name/username, contact information, and the last 8 digits of your VIN.

    Best,
    Sarah
    GM Customer Service
  • So was looking to buy a turbo kit for my 07 manual solstice was wanting some advie on which one or what to look for. im in the military and will be upgrading as soon as i get home. Nt wanting a drag car but wanting more get up and go...any advice?
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