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Suzuki Aerio Wagon

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  • jmmgjmmg Posts: 19
    I have added a centre arm rest between the front seats, it provided some storage area and make the interior look better as well.
  • QualityQuality Posts: 17
    Glad to see lots of interest in this new vehicle. Anyhow, had my second oil change on the weekend and pushing 11,000 km already. I am a courier so I put on lots of km.. Couple of minor problems to register: a squeal in brakes ( fixed during first oil change - rotor too smooth and they sanded it down a bit. it is fine now.) And, the module for the keyless entry was replaced. Otherwise, no problems to report. Lots of power and many curious people asking questions about my vehicle. Have done some mileage (kilometerage?) tests. Most coming in just under 30 miles per Canadian gallon and one at 35 mpg. I paid $18600 for my unit and my salesman says they are not currently producing the GLX for sale in Canada. New buyers will have to step up to the SX version. Lucky me.
  • gerrixgerrix Posts: 7
    Rule #1 : Don't trust salesmen.
    From what I heard and experience, SX are in short supply, Suzuki didn't expect that SX would sell so well. They forsought to sell 3 Sedan for 1 hatchback. Thus, now they have a lot of unsold Sedan and a lot of SX in back order.
    Now, probably the factory in Japan is stopping production of Sedans for a while, and produce hatchback only to make a balance.
  • artdechoartdecho Posts: 337
    Gerrix.......yeah, i'm aware of the under seat storage, but not too convenient if you're driving along & need to switch to your sunglasses and have to fumble around under the passenger seat while trying to keep your eyes on the road!
    JMMG......how much did they ding you for the centre armrest/storage? Looks like a "must have" option, given the shortage of useful storage nooks.
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    Thanks for the update. Glad to hear your Suzuki Aerio is serving you well. ;-)

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  • gerrixgerrix Posts: 7
    Artdecho, the salesman told me it's 227$ can. for the armrest. Not cheap.
  • jmmgjmmg Posts: 19
    My salesman told me its around Cdn$ 230 as well, but because I have to wait for car for so long, plus he lied to me in the first place, I have managed to get him put the arm rest in for half price! Fight for it!
  • jmmgjmmg Posts: 19
    Could anyone let me know exactly what type of Yokohama tires that Suzuki has put on the Aerio SX! coz' I read an article on Japanese newspaper and they mentioned some models of Yokohama tire has beem recall in Japan due to the similar problem like the "Dire-stone".
  • Need some feedback please-Looking to relpace my Protege--sort bored with it. Looked into Matrix-Vibe-Aerio- Love the Vibe-the Pontiac name scares me even though they say its the same as Matrix,I read somewhere on here that like 80% of the cares mechanical areas aare US made??????? I can't bring myself to pay 17000 for a car with no power anything. Matrix is sort of plain looking. Looked at Areio-didn't test drive it though. Better price-but not sure of reliability factor(at least my Mazda is listed as "reliable" in the car reports.) Ruled out the Hyundai GT--. Any feed back??
  • Just an update about the clicking noise of my new Aerio SX automatic w/ABS. I took it to the dealer and the service guy said he reset the computer and that's what he thought the problem was, but I still hear the noise. He told me to go ahead and drive it for a while, the noise might go away. Well, I have no choice, they are not going the change the car for me. And they can't find out what's wrong. I might have to call back in a few months to see if they have more people with that ennoying noise, and by that time, they might be able to specific the problem. I guess I just turn the radio louder. So, does anyone else have this problem?

    Well, the good part is that I am beginning to like the performance of the car. It runs smoother as I break into the 300 miles. The ABS brake works great and the acceleration is there. I am planning to get a car alarm and tinted window. Anyone have good suggestion on what kind of alarm I should get?

    Any input will be great.
  • Hey Orlandoguy1, I think the SX is a good choice. I have at 2 people from the street complementing the car and even one said he just got the matrix but he like the look of mine. For some reason I like the matrix look, but not the price. I got mine before tax and license for $14,499.88 with Automatic and ABS. The car drive smoothly and sitting tall almost like sport utility. Like I said in the earlier message, the only complain is the clicking noise in the driver frontdash which I just have to turn the radio louder.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    Did they have any Aerio SXs with a manual tranny at the Orlando dealer? I live in northern Florida but will be down in Orlando soon so it might work out good to test drive it then. I wouldn't worry too much about Suzuki reliability. They seem to be well known in both the motorcycle and car world as having dependable long lasting engines. They just don't sell many cars so there aren't enough owners to report on overall reliability. You would have to look at their SUV offerings to get a better picture of how good they are. As for the Matrix, I drove a base model that stickered for 16980 with power windows, locks, remote entry, CD player, graphics package, and aftermarket alloy wheels. So it is possible to spend 17k on the Matrix and still get a reasonably equipped car that doesn't look plain (the wheels do wonders to improve its looks). Lastly, I wouldn't be so scared of the Vibe. If you like it, buy it! The mechanicals are all Toyota and it's built at a Toyota plant. The only difference is you get a smaller powertrain warranty, though I think you gain roadside assistance. Good luck on your decision.
  • frenchcarfrenchcar Posts: 247
    The Aerio comes with Tokohoma Geolander GO46 tires that are specific to this car only. They have a V speed rating, have good traction but wont produce long wear and may not be good in the snow but that remains to be seen. I have had other Geolanders on a Suzuki SUV with good luck and pretty good winter traction but they were only a T speed rating as I remember.
  • frenchcarfrenchcar Posts: 247
    I had a 1990 Sidekick with 124,000 miles and a 94 with 82000 miles when I sold it. Very little maintenance needed and very reliable, almost no problems. Suzuki has had very few re-calls and I like the timing chain versus cheap belts. The direct ignition is usually only found on more expensive cars. The Vibe is better looking than the Matrix and I looked at it. Base engine is nothing to write home about and the seats are so low. Driving position is awkward. I tested the Suzuki Aerio twice and several other makes and we are glad we got the Aerio. Dont decide until you have driven them all.
  • bsme1991bsme1991 Posts: 23
    Five year ownership cost based on 15,000 mi/year including financing, fuel, maintenance, and repairs. Zip code 97005:

    Focus SVT $28,164
    RSX 2D 5M $27,069
    Accord EX 4D 2.3L 5M $26,339
    Sentra SE-R Spec V 6M $26,306
    Focus ZTS 4D 5M $26,144

    Suzuki Aerio SX 5M $25,581

    Celica GT 2D 5M $25,001
    Civic Si side air bags $24,718
    Accord LX 4D 2.3L 5M $24,557
    Elantra GLS 2L 5M $23,559
    Focus LX 4D 5M $23,496
    Civic EX 4D 5M side air bags $22,402
    Sentra GXE 4D 5M $22,309
    Civic EX 4D 5M $22,261
    Civic LX 4D 5M $20,954
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  • Hey guys thks for the feedback. Iam a fir beleiver of CR magazine and what they say concerning cars. They seem to "black dot" suzuki models in depreciation and reliability. I heard that digital inst panels are expensive to replace when they need repaired? The Orlando dealer has some sticks --around 15-16000...Fountain Auto Mall--u have to go look for help--guess they don't need to sell any cars--didn't even get to test drive one. Not sure when u guys post from--but I didn't see a Matrix here for under $17000--closer to 18000----so for 14000 and change--u guys got a steal!!!!!! Well--may stick with my Protege--who knows......just don't want to get stuck with something I might be sorry with..hey--I had a Neon before the Protege..so I have a right to be cautious!!
  • artdechoartdecho Posts: 337
    I think the sample sizes for Suzuki data on some of these reliability surveys are too small to get an accurate read on their reliability. Judging by comments made here and in other forums, Suzukis are one of the most trouble-free brands on the road. Our 1993 Sidekick has almost 200,000 km
    (about 125,000 miles) on it and other than regular scheduled maintenance, we've done virtually nothing to it. The muffler lasted about 8 years and the rest of the exhaust sytem is still original. I replaced the battery last year and have just about worn out my second set of tires but other than that, nothing. No engine problems, no fuel system problems, no tranmission or driveline problems, no excessive brake wear, no cooling system problems, no electrical problems, nothing. Even one of the batteries in the remote (for the alarm) is still original, this after almost 10 years. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Suzuki and that's why an Aerio is probably in the cards for us now.
  • I started with a Sumarai when they first came out and had no trouble with it whatsoever after driving it off the dealer's lot. Consumer Report was a bum rap. Only time it came close to tipping was my own fault on a cliffside in the Adirondacks. Traded it in for a '95 Sidekick that has never let us down on trips all over the NE. Traded it in this past week with 97,000 miles on it for a loaded 2002 GS. $1295 rebate brought me into the showroom, Suzuki reliability made me a new owner. Haggled with salesman and manager for 2 hours. Ended up with a price of 15,190. and they allowed 2,400 for the trade-in. I drive 30 miles one-way combined city/expressway driving each day to work and to be honest coming from a Sidekick the GS is a Cadillac! I do agree with "artdecho" that lack of an easily reachable place for my "stuff" is my ONLY complaint thus far. Even thinking of a second one for the lady of the house. She currently has a Rav4, 4dr, and likes this much better.
  • majorthomechomajorthomecho Posts: 1,331
    For those interested in buying and tuning the Aerio SX hatchback, you might want to check out the June 2002 issue of Importer Tuner magazine. It has an article about the SX hatchback and it turns out the guys at IT will be buying and tuning their very own SX. A series of articles about the tuning process are planned.

    The same tips should work on the Aerio sedan since the engine, the size of the engine bay, and the other mechanicals are the same.
  • majorthomechomajorthomecho Posts: 1,331
    Reading the posts from the Canadians have me really curious as to what exactly are the different trim levels that the Aerio comes in.

    In the US, we have three. The SX is the designation for the hatchback only while the S is the base sedan and the GS is the sportier looking sedan. Personally, if an Aerio is in my future, it will be a GS with ABS and AWD.

    To the person complaining about lack of storage space in the Aerio, if you want storage space, buy an Echo. ; )
  • frenchcarfrenchcar Posts: 247
    I took your advice and read the nice write up about the Aerio SX and their plans to tune and hop one up. They seem impressed by the Artio and feel Suzuki has arrived with this well thought out model. It was interesting that Suzuki Sport has some mild speed equipment available for it now. We like ours more each day and are so happy that we chose it over the Vibe-Matrix although we are starting to see several of those on the road. Bet they were not even aware of the Aerio. Im still mad as hell at Car and Driver for ranking it last after scoring it good and being impressed by it but saying its too ugly for them. If I could figure out how to e-mail their writer I would set him straight about a lot of contrary information.
  • npaladin2000npaladin2000 Posts: 593
    Actually, I think the looks need work too...a lot. The way it looks makes the wheels look REALLY tiny...plus you really can't get bigger wheels, because you're already riding low profile 15 inch tires from the looks of it.

    Also, those skirts make the thing look like a low-rider. Not only that, it looks like they'd scrape the speed-bumps at my apartment complex...I wonder if they're removable?

    Right now I'm lookign at that and a VW GTI...if they come up with a turbo for the Aerio SX AWD version, I'd probably go that way....I DO like the way the dash looks, and the height of the stereo controls. And I REALLY like the storage compartment under the floor of the cargo area.
  • gerrixgerrix Posts: 7
    I read the article too. They just don't like the looks (interior and exterior). It's really a matter of personnal tastes. I don't like the PT Cruiser look, but they placed it second... The review just show that the six cars are all quite good (Aerio, Matrix, Vibe, Focus, PT Cruiser, Protege5).
  • npaladin2000npaladin2000 Posts: 593
    Actually, they say the Focus sucked...they didn't like the Torquemada seats, the shifter stunk, it didn't have enough interior space, and also had a weak engine. Which is why I have trouble figuring out why it ended up above the Aerio, which, while they hated the looks, they DID like the handling.
  • artdechoartdecho Posts: 337
    Too bad looks are such an important criteria to Car & Driver......Aerio would've been in the top 2 or 3 if performance, room and handling held more importance. Looks are so subjective, anyway. I happen to think the Matrix and PT Cruiser are the ugliest of that bunch.
    Suzuki should've spec'd 15" 65 series tires as the base ones for the Aerio, with the SX having 16" 55 series ones. That said, the tires on my '91 Civic Si hatch were only 185/60-14's and on a nice set of alloys, they looked plenty big enough. I think if Suzuki increased the track width an inch or 2, it would help alot. 215/50-15's have virtually the same circumference as the stock 195/55-15's but might look a bit chunkier.
    frenchcar......what is the width of the 15" alloys? Is it 5.5 or 6"? Maybe going to a 6.5" or 7" width would also help.
  • majorthomechomajorthomecho Posts: 1,331
    I have the issue of Car And Driver that is under discussion, but I cannot find it right now. I did get to glance at it again when I took my car in for service. The dealership had a copy.

    My memory is that the Aerio did not lose by a little. It lost by a lot.

    There was a lot more to what Car And Driver did not like about the Aerio than the looks.
  • majorthomechomajorthomecho Posts: 1,331
    HCI (Hot Compact And Import) also has a story about the Aerio coming to our shores. Looks like this vehicle is going to be popular if the coverage is any indication.
  • frenchcarfrenchcar Posts: 247
    I have several large speed bumps where I live and there is no clearance or scrape problem at any speed (I once hit one at 25mph on purpose) and the suspension handles it better than most other vehicles. I actually measured the side clearancve and it is just one half inch lower than most new cars, it is optical illusion. I have seen an Aerio sedan with 17 inch 45 series tires that someone had changed to.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    Read the Car and Driver article and you will see they didn't have much to complain about. They simply didn't like the styling and that was the only low listed. They also said it didn't have as much max grip as the others and they didn't like the fabric. Otherwise, they praised the engine's smoothness and good performance and how roomy and comfortable the interior was. It stopped better then some of them, had a comfortable ride, and they praised the shifter. I honestly think they really messed up their review and docked the car solely on aesthetics, which I think is absurd.
  • frenchcarfrenchcar Posts: 247
    HCI and Import Tuner along with Edmunds, Motor Week and a few others liked the Aerio. Car and Driver is blind again as far as being honest in their rating system and this is not the first time they have pulled this kind of crap. Even if you dont like the looks of the car you should never let that distort your opinion. The Vibe and Matrix style doesnt turn many people on either. I tried them out but never could get comfortable. Still glad I bought the Suzuki but to each his own. I like the Mazda P-5 a whole lot but too low and limited space for my use.
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