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Volkswagen TDI Models

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  • wings02wings02 Posts: 3
    About chips for TDI engines. Can you tell me 3 websites you would recommend to buy from. I am interested in chipping my golf. Some friends have told me that appartently you can increase hp to about 150 and torque to 200+. Is this performance increase for real?
  • chmeeeechmeeee Posts: 327
    You cannot increase your power that much with just a chip, you would probably see 110 hp and 200 torque with either a chip or a tuning box.

    www.upsolute.com

    http://www.jannettyracing.com/vw.htm
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,231
    There are chips and "smart" boxes available for the TDI. I have a VanAaken Smart box for mine. I believe it's dyno'd at 25hp and 50lb-ft IIRC. The chips have similar performance increases. As mentioned above, upsolute appears to be the best of the chips. VanAaken is the best of the boxes. Obviously opinions vary, but that's the consensus from what I've gathered.

    My box came from http://www.dieselservices.com another sourcce is http://www.jannettyracing.com I think the VanAaken is around $400 new, but I bought mine used for around $300 (another advantage of the box, resale value) from a member of the tdiclub website. There are cheaper boxes out there but I wouldn't buy them.

    Both sell the VanAaken boxes and they are plug-and-play installs. Take about 10 minutes plus can be disconnected very quickly. The chips are more of a permanent mod and sometimes require down-time.
  • natescapenatescape Posts: 176
    If you want more power than the box or chip provides, you'll have to upgrade your injectors also. And if you do that, you're going to get clutch slippage and will need to upgrade your clutch.
  • 8u6hfd8u6hfd Posts: 1,391
    add a LSD to get the power to the ground more efficiently also.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    You can see how this 'modding' can become an expensive hobby...

    It's also very addictive...
  • appraiserappraiser Posts: 22
    In this time of high gas prices, should I expect to pay MSRP for a 2003 Golf GLS TDI? The dealer says he's got one coming in about three weeks (silver, 5-speed, loaded) and has quoted me $19,300, which I believe is full price. What do you think?
  • bpeeblesbpeebles Posts: 4,085
    (appraiser) I have had one "on order" for well over 2 months. I have a signed contract and a downpayment in place and STILL have not received a car in over 2 months. The first TDI that was 'earmarked' for myself was magically 'sold' to someone else before it arrived at my dealership.

    I call my salesman daily and he can only report that my car is "scheduled to be built" I have sat with my salesman several times to review the available TDIs that may be on a ship or arriving at other dealerships in the next 3 weeks.... He has called other dealerships looking to get them for me... but alas... they are ALL already sold.

    Do not forget that starting in 2004 there are big changes planned for the TDIs. (such as the new TDI engine)

    Much of this is also due to the new emissions laws going into effect in 2004... THERE WILL BE NO TDIs SOLD IN THE "border states" (CA, ME, NH, VT, NY...etc) and people are scrambling to get one now.

    BOTTOM LINE: If you can even FIND a TDI, you are doing well. If you dont buy it... the next guy will.
  • 8u6hfd8u6hfd Posts: 1,391
    I paid that much last year...with the Cold Weather Package in it. I got for about $400-$500 under MSRP.

    I had a choice of waiting 2 months for Indigo Blue with Black Interior or

    1 week for Indigo Blue with Beige interior....guess which option I chose?
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,231
    Seems to vary a lot by region. Here in the mid-west they aren't quite as hard to find. I stopped at a dealer last week for a fuel filter and was chatting. He had four Jetta TDI's sitting on the lot and said while they weren't selling them for invoice, they were discounting them. Somewhere between invoice and MSRP was where they usually sold. Didn't inquire about golfs though.

    The thing that seems to be in high demand are the TDI Jetta Wagons. A buddy of mine bought one straight off the lot last fall, but the salesman said they had every wagon sold they can get.
  • deuskiddeuskid Posts: 20
    Seems there is a wide disparity between dealerships and I was wondering if there is a place where buyers could post their experiences at specific dealers? As this data base is developed we buyers would see patterns of 'good' and 'bad' dealerships. Of course anyone can have a 'good' or 'bad' experience individually but if enough shared then patterns could be identified.

    Does such a place already exist somewhere on the web?

    thx

    Deuskid
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I saw a coveted TDI stick wagon at my dealer this past Friday when I went for my oil change. There was also one TDI Jetta sedan with stick. I stopped at another dealer 2 weekends ago, and they had a 5-speed TDI wagon there as well. I was surprised to even see them on the lots. That's only 3 though, so they are definitely scarce.
  • sriavirsriavir Posts: 5
    I looked for the TDI wagon for 4 weeks and finally found one in Blue with the black interior GLS 5-speed yestarday. I called 25 dealers in the North East/Mid-Atlantic states based on info from VWs site info. There was only one blue GLS, a couple GL's, about 5 Silvers GLS/GL's a couple Black GLS/GL's. These were all 5 speed. If you are willing to drive to get it you might find one. I drove 200 miles to get mine. It was worth it.
    Just wanted to thank everyone in the VW discussion groups. Good info.
  • mqcndtmqcndt Posts: 1
    I recently took delivery of my TDI Wagon. It only took 4 months. According to my dealer in Ft Meade MD, VW Marketing group seriously underestimated the demand in the US for the TDI models. So far I am pleased with my car. The TDI seems to have enough power and torque. The only thing I was dissatisfied with was the dealership. They always try to tack on the undercoatings, or they want to spray your interior with an eight dollar can of scotchguard and then try and charge you $300.00 for it. If only you could go to a dealership, pick out your car and leave.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    2004 Golf, Jetta and New Beetle GL and GLS trim levels will have a new 1.9L TDI-PD with 100hp and 177 lb-ft. of torque available in GL and GLS trim levels. The Golf and Jetta models will be available with a choice of a 5-speed manual or 5-speed tiptronic transmission. The New Beetle will be available with a 5-speed manual with rumors of a six-speed DSG (direct shift gearbox) potentially being offered late this year or early next.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    What's the source of this information?
  • chmeeeechmeeee Posts: 327
    If you go to the main news page of Vortex, there is a 5 part series of TDI articles, the last one has the official VWoA info about the 2004 Passat TDI and G/J/NB TDI's.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Oh yeah, I did see that a couple hundred times. :) The only place on Vortex I have been spending alot of time is the Classifieds... :)
  • My 2001 TDI is suffering from a general loss of power. Mechanic says they've had problems with the Mass Air Sensor which will cause the car to underperform if faulty. Had it in 4th with foot to floor yesterday... it would only go 50mph! He recommends replacement. Any comments?
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,759
    Yup, a common problem. Your's I am guessing is covered by warranty? Another common problem which you don't experience due to not having any is coil failure.
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,231
    That sounds right. MAF for short. They should be able to hook it up to the computer or VAG-COM and tell you for sure.

    There is someone selling MAF's brand-new on a tdiclub website for $175. That's really cheap compared to what the dealers try to get for them. Let me know if you need hooked up.
  • It's an early '01, 2.5 yrs old w/ 48,000 miles on it. Wants to be driven! Have the extended warranty, but it doesn't cover this situation. I'm working with an independent mechanic who will give his best deal.

    Last month had to replace the master cylinder too. L/R pads were to metal to metal. I'm hoping this is the last thing for a while!
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Rear brakes are typical on 01 models, due to cheap rear pads. Talk with VW, you might get them to reimburse you.
  • 8u6hfd8u6hfd Posts: 1,391
    not...cheap pads, it's softer material for less noise.
  • maurcedesmaurcedes Posts: 38
    Those new and improved TDIs - what will the improvements do to the MSRP?
  • mbuonombuono Posts: 2
    I am thinking about buying a new or relatively used Jetta TDI. Has any of you who own one had problems with smelling fumes inside the car, especially in the back seat?
  • chmeeeechmeeee Posts: 327
    The only time I really smell the diesel is when I first start it up, especially if its cold. As soon as I get going, I dont smell it again.
  • croccroc Posts: 4
    I noticed a melted plastic type of smell coming from my 03 Golf TDI yesterday after going up a fairly long and steep hill. It only has 800 kms on it so I am wondering if it could have been some excess anti-corrosion compound melting off or some other burn in issue from external engine parts. Any ideas?
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    My 1.8T Jetta did that when new too. Don't worry, it's normal. Enjoy the car, and congrats!
  • liguor60liguor60 Posts: 9
    Anyone know if the 2004 TDI's will be available in New York. The salesman at the dealership was telling me they wouldn't be, but I figured she was trying out a scare-tactic on me in order to rush my purchase.
    Any thoughts?

    Thanks.
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