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Notice the "CH-4" rating and 5W40 and TBN 0f 12? This is perhaps one of the best oils available for the TDI. My sources say that it will be available soon in a WallyMart near you. YAY!
For my .02 cents, this is one of the best group IV synthetic oil on the market. I currently use it. (Delvac One 5w-40) I am hoping since it will be more widely available that the price will go south of 5 dollars per quart!
Thanks
Tom
I just would not set the cruise on 70 and drive the entire 250 miles. Run 65 for awhile, maybe 60 here and there if traffic permits. Take it up higher every now and then. Basically just drive like every other idiot on the highway that doesn't know how to drive at a set speed;)
So some stuff that comes to mind are very easy and under 60-65 mph for the tires. 1. How gentle you are with tires during this time will affect effect the longevity. It also needs to "seat" so to speak. 2. Brakes again, first 200 miles are pretty critical, also for the same reasons as tires. 3. The varied rpm's are important again same reason The TDI engine doesnt fully break in for app 60k miles 4.do not keep one speed but vary it. 5 a separate but intergral part is to keep the turbo spooling correctly. 6. transmission the same way. 7 When you are coming off freeway speeds and rpms, it is also important to not shut down the engine before 1-2 min of lower rpms (what you are preventing is heat soak) So an example is you bomb along the freeway at say 80 mph for 2 hrs and you pull off at a fuel station if you go at stop and go rpms for 1-2 min you can shut down your engine almost right away. But if you do not then it is best to idle the engine 1-2 min stopped.
The annoyances with the vehicle are the required use of VW spec 505.01 engine oil (MUST USE 505.01 in PD engines) which is not available anywhere but at the dealer (read about 505.01 oil requirement at tdiclub.com). The other annoyance is the Jetta does not produce heat in the cabin for a long time on cold days. Despite these annoyances, we really like(d) our Jetta TDI. It is fun to drive.
Unfortunately, when we took delivery of our Jetta, the windshield had scratches from the factory or from transportation. On delivery Manchester VW placed a warranty claim for a new windshield. We drove the Jetta for a couple of weeks returning to have the windshield replaced. Manchester VW sublet the work to Glass America. The dealership had the glass ordered and delivered for our 04' Jetta. Glass America replaced the windshield with their own glass (communication breakdown there). The windshield Glass American installed was the wrong glass (too big), but they installed it anyway. The "A" pillar rubber seals were sticking up like fins on a fish. Geesh! While installing the glass, Glass America severely scratched the hood in numerous places with a couple of large gouges in the paint (I have photos!). They also got road sand on the hood (how can this happen) which probably caused most of the scratches. The interior had dust and dirt in the seats. When we saw the vehicle, we were appalled by the condition of our brand new Jetta. The rubber seals sticking up, the sand on the hood and the scratches turned our stomach. We stood around while the service personnel informed management that after we viewed the vehicle, we were not happy. No one in the dealership really indicated what they would do. We took our plates and left the Jetta there.
The next day we had to call Manhester VW to find out what they would do. We asked for Manchester VW to give us a new Jetta. They refused unless we were willing to pay more money. We called VW of America for help. VW of America stated is was not their issue and it was a dealer issue. We got no support from VW of America. After 5 days without our Jetta, Manchester VW replaced the windshield again with the correct glass. They replaced the hood with one from a new car on the lot (big no no in the state of NH). While fixing the windshield and replacing the hood, Manchester VW scratched our front bumper and sometime during its stay with the dealer, they added a nice paint chip (green car paint) in the drivers door.
After being treated so poorly by VW of America and Manchester VW, we decided that VW of America did not want our future business. We will NEVER buy from Manchester VW or another Volkswagen. Although our experience sounds pretty dramatic, every ounce of our experience is true.
DO NOT BUY a VW from Manchester VW (NH). DO NOT HAVE GLASS AMERICA do the work. Another dealer we work with told us they use to used Glass America until they scratched the hoods on several new cars. Although our VW has a new hood and the correct glass installed, we are done with VW and will buy our new vehicles from reputable companies who support their customers with their dealer network. Our TDI is for sale.
We also found grease on the rear seats which the dealer refused to accept blame for. Then when we started nibbing around the trunk we found it had no spare. After bringing this to the dealers attention and them refusing to accept blame I spoke to the service manager about getting a new spare and he admitted to stealing one from new inventory and forgot to replace it. That would have been nice to find on a rainy night with a flat! Nevermind the many other problems that junky car had. I certainly avoided that dealer when my daughter decided on a new Celica GTS. Lesson learned, don't leave the dealer without going over the car with a magnifying glass and a salesman standing by.
The point? Beyond some luxury brands I'm not impressed with any dealers and typically buy the car from the cheapest I can find and then go try to find the best place for service. Not many provide both.
If you don't have a VW dealer near you, you've only got four choices: Don't buy a VW, drive to one that has a decent service shop, find a good VW independant mechanic, or do all the maintenance yourself. So far I've been able to do everything myself for 70k miles. I've also found a highly recommended independant to try if I ever get into a project that's over my head.
The only reason I have the TDI is because I drive 40k miles per year and it's the only small econimcal car I can stomach driving. I drove mid-size V6's for years until I drove this car and was impressed with it. I'm still very impressed with it and have had very few problems (much less than my last camry!) so I have no reason to ditch it.
As for your heating issue, you can buy a heater for it and plug the car in. I have mine on a timer and it comes on 2 hours before I'm leaving and the car starts up like it's 90F instead of zeroF. Heat begins almost immediately.
Wow, I am surprised about the Toyota experience. I always heard Toyota has a relatively good customer service record. I assume the experience varies by dealer. Our experience is certainly emotionally upsetting.
Our concern with the VW is the lack of support by VW of America and the fact that Manchester VW did not take the customer service relationship seriously. Customer service after the sale is what keeps customers coming back and supports the referral service from happy owners. We are sure that you and others can only imagine that we will share our experience with everyone we meet. We would do the same if the experience was a positive experience.
Even after they replaced the hood and glass on our *new* Jetta, they did not take the extra care avoiding additional damage. If a customer had the experience we had in my own business, I would do the right thing and accommodate the customer. We had a new car. All we needed the dealership to do is give us back a new car. Although they attempted to correct their error(s), we were without our vehicle for 5 days and they still scratched the bumper and chipped the drivers door.
We realize our vehicles will see daily environmental damage. But, we would like to think it would not happen at the dealership to the magnitude experienced with Manchester VW.
VW of America has lost a customer forever. As mentioned in our initial post, the VW is for sale and we will purchase from a reputable dealership with the manufacturer that supports their customers leaning on the dealer network to do the right thing.
We had a similar experience with Mercedes Benz a few years ago. The dealer got us a new car in one week. They purchased the original Benz back from us and provided us with the exact replacement. We have been Mercedes fans ever since. The Mercedes corporate philosophy is customer service "to the extreme". We will return to our roots and be treated with respect. If MB only had a diesel that got 40+ MPG. Maybe fuel economy is not all it's cracked up to be. Thanks for the reply and the support.
Mercedes does have a new diesel coming later this year. E320 with a CDI diesel that Car and Driver tested last month. Awesome car both performance (0-60mph in 6 seconds) and economy. They were getting upwards of 40 some mpg on the highway and I think they averaged 30mpg for their tests which are usually similar to city epa ratings. I will consider one when they're released, although it's still hard to justify putting 40k miles per year on a luxury car. That's why I liked the Camrys, cheap to buy and resale was usually good even with high miles. My first two were very reliable, the last was very disappointing and it was clear Toyota dumped a lot of quality over the years.
Thanks
Tom
Do not use an oil that was suitable for the previous-generation TDI engine.
Even the coveted Mobil Delvac1 is not labelled to meet the 2004 TDI requirements.
http://www.petitiononline.com/vw50501/petition.html
As for the car iteslf, I am certainly pleased. Both my wife and I often fight over who gets to drive it.
I am scouting around for areas that carry oil. A friend mentioned that he has purchased Motul locally for his motor bike. Motul is one of two oils that I know that are a certified VW oil. I wonder if they carry the synthetic stuff that the 2004 TDI-PD requires.
Good luck.
Thanks for the vote of support. Since we have strong convictions for doing (not doing) business with crappy outfits, we have informed VW of our dissatisfaction with their support and will refuse to do business with anyone associated with VW. My 04 Jetta PD is going away. We have a deposit on a C-class Mercedes which will replace the Jetta. Mercedes bends over backwards to keep their customers happy. We are returning to the brand. You can visit me in the Mercedes Benz forums in the next few days.
Good luck with the 04' PD TDI.
http://www.lubereport.com/e_article000231583.cfm?x=a2DjWJL,aCnsqj- y
I immediately changed the oil and filter. I knew to be careful about the type of oil, but I don't think I was careful enough. I put Mobil 1 Synthetic 5w 30. It said on the label it was safe for diesel engines. When I went on this forum, I noticed about the limited selection of oils and that mobil delvac is what I should of used. My 2 questions are: Should I change the oil immediately, or am I going to be ok? and did I get a good deal on my TDi?
In so far as your Mobil One 5w-30, it does NOT meet the CI-4/CF4 standards. Mobil Delvac 5w40 does and is also SL/SJ backward compatible. So you can use Mobil Delvac One in both diesel and gasser. While you are not in immediate danger using Mobil One 5w30, keep in mind the diesel engine emits soot back into the oil and Mobil One 5w30 while it can handle a certain amount, is not designed/blended with that in mind. Mobil Delvac One 5w40 among other things is. So ok with Mobil One is relative to when do you plan to switch to a diesel rated oil?
Welcome to the club and also the thread!
I have INXS of 650k miles with Mobil One (on different vehicles). So if I had to guess, I'd say you'd be ok.
The best is to go to the specified product as soon as possible.
The OEM doesn't make it any easier and indeed there are huge differences in opinions on oil issues.
My read is Mobil Delvac One, but in truth that is only my .02 cents, but is what I am betting on. Luck and 550,000 miles will really tell
I have taken gassers to app 250k with conventional oil as well as 15k interval Mobil One synthetic. There is even some controversy if synthetic oil is really required. In fact there are some conventional as well as synthetic blends that do just fine! Viscosity, by owners manual, is also all over the map.
The salesperson at Dealership B (where I purchased my TDI wagon with a 7 year/100K warranty) said that burning BioD would void my warranty. A different salesperson at the same dealership says "who's gonna know?".
Does anybody know the definitive answer?
VW Germany does allow biodiesel use.
Biodiesel will not harm the TDI and generally performs better than the fossil diesel.
You can use it, do not let VW know about it.
The TDI MUST have sythentic oil in it. This is not an option... it has been specified by VW. Currently, the ONLY oil found at wallymart that you can use is the ROTELLA synthetic 5W40.
We are all awaiting the arrivial of MOBILs new "synthetic truck oil" at Wallymart which which is perputed to be repackaged DELVAC1.
(Of course.... your driving-style may not show it)
The only "negitive" I have heard is that upsolute increases the torque so much that it you may be able to "spin the clutch". The stock clutch cannot handle all of the additional torque so you have to keep your foot out of the turbo.
http://www.upsolute.com/
http://www.speedtuningusa.com/
Have you considerd INJECTORS instead of a chip?
http://www.kermatdi.com/
It is said that injectors may be easier to install and are a stepping-stone to using a chip to create a torque-monster.
I watched a 4 ea (total) injector swap (Bosch). It was a very procedural and easy R/R. It took all of 15 mins only because it was done at a GTG and eight other people were kibbitzing and of course rubber necking. (myself included). There were a host of folks with technical expertise and two or three vag.coms, so if there were any issues you could put it on diagnostics very fast. There were absolutely NO issues!
Kerma's on the other hand, you need to remove the old injectors and bodys put in a vise and remove the injectors from the bodies, install the .205/.216 injectors in the bodys and reinstall the bodies. (shop vise is highly recommended) Again a good mechanic might take all of 30 min tops. There are some torque values, and to be perfectly safe one can even R/R the 4 copper washers. I have heard a lot of good things about Kerma's PP520 (.205) product (Bosio)
Even if you do not do the injectors it is recommended to do the EGR mod. If your TDI develops issues or you simply want to see the performance parameters a vag com is good to have.
I personally am waivering back and forth because, (if I really want performance the Jetta's TDI stable mate is a Corvette Z06 ):) with the .205/.216 injector's extra torque and hp, you do indeed need to be careful, for it can slip the clutch.
Referencing msg 961 and your response 962, I'm assuming you mean the air filter and its housing...I changed and cleaned them last week, as well as the fuel filter. Well see if it makes any difference here in the next few weeks.
Anything else that might affect MPG besides air/fuel/oil filters?
Thanks.
http://www.osti.gov/fcvt/deer2000/eberharpa.pdf
If there is could you provide me with the bulletin # (TSB) or a phone # I can get in touch with VW...
Len