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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    It's quite a place. I am seriously thinking of getting one of those gopro cams to record my fun. Might make a good youtube channel.

    I am sure that stater was looking out for safety and not for money or quota, as the end of the month approaches.
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,856
    In another forum I frequent, someone does that. He has a mount for his cell phone recording his commute and then posts the "winners". I wouldn't have time to post all the crazy stuff I see everyday.

    My fav from yesterday was the idiot in an Azera slam on his brakes and make a right hand turn into a gas station from the middle lane of a three lane road (with a 50 mph SL).

    Oh and the Land Cruiser that decided to swerve off the exit ramp at the last minute and get back on the highway.

    And for an even three, the loser doing 45 MPH in the left lane of the NJ turnpike.

    2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve

  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,762
    No, no, it definitely was a safety issue. ;)

    Actually, I say that only half-heartedly. He didn't give any of us who were driving along with me any issue at/near 60. Some folks do fly through there at 70+, which is unacceptable given the quality of road surface and the fact that there is a relatively popular (for the area) intersection just beyond the hill crest. I have turned left from that road a couple times and nearly been T-boned by some bozo kid driving 80-100 as they popped over the hill. There's plenty of sight distance at 55-60... not so much when you go faster than that.

    This is one of those roads where 55 really is a reasonable limit, so I wouldn't have lost any sleep over seeing someone zip past me at 65 and then get pulled over for speeding. If that happened on the expressway connecting this road, that would be another story.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    Also had an old Lexus GS behind me in traffic...about 3" behind me

    Not a trip goes by on I90 in my area where one or more drivers just has to be on my bumper while in the fast (left) lane and many vehicles immediately ahead of me. Even happens at times when I decide to use the right-most lane, but not as much. In 3-lane I90, these drivers will jump around in middle, right lane, get ahead slightly, get back in left lane and do the same tail-gate stunt to the driver ahead of them.

    Should keep a log, but most times seems mostly to be drivers in full-size pickups, large suvs. Now, the taller the pickup, the closer they tailgate, seems like less than a car length. I think there is a formula for figuring their IQ. It is inversely proportional to the height of their truck.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    Eventually, I think I will do that. I think people might like fintail driving videos too, just because of the oddity of the car. Locals will commiserate about the bad driving in this part of the world, and outsiders will become aghast at the passive-aggressive oblivion. I saw a bicyclist with a cam helmet yesterday...maybe I should have one when I jog, too, catch the crosswalk crowders.

    I'll need to put the driving to music or something though, or my narration will make me into some kind of new "Winnebago Man" :shades:
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    edited June 2012
    I wish I could stereotype local tailgaters - they cover all demographic and vehicle categories. Luckily, they aren't terribly common in this area - slowpokes are far more common. I saw a lot more of it in FL/GA, where a common move is to tailgate, finally pass, then 10 seconds later slam on the brakes and turn off the road.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    The hill crest and intersection sound like valid concerns. Probably had an incident in the past and now it gets attention. Around here when I see speedtraps on wide open roads, I am pretty sure a mayor's niece's dog got hit by a car there - in 1973, and it has been trapped ever since. You know the road - wide open, downhill, no intersections, not congested - easy speeding.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,762
    So, it turns out my dread of joking about yesterday's drive was well-founded.

    When I left the parking lot at approximately 8pm, there was a fairly new red Dodge Dakota, with body damage (that should have been a clue!), driving a short way behind me on the 4-lane road (two in each direction). Over the next half-mile or so, the vehicle managed to slowly creep up to my rear quarter in the left lane, then sit there for a good distance. Eventually, the driver blasted by me and swerved in ahead and again matched my speed, which was about 42 in a 40.

    A little later, we come up on a stop light after the SL decreases to 35. Upon leaving the light, the driver, a middle-aged gal who was engrossed in a conversation with her passenger, managed to make it up to maybe 35 before settling in at that speed. I was going closer to 40, so I took the left lane and began passing her.

    When I was about even along side, the car ahead of the Dakota signals a right turn and starts slowing dramatically. The Dakota driver didn't slow, but actually sped up to match speed with me, then a little faster than me, and just pulls into my lane (while I'm still there!). As much as I tried otherwise, I still managed to dodge that Dodge through swerving left, braking hard, then swerving right to avoid both her and the oncoming car, while she *barely* missed me and the car turning right.

    While the rest of us were cleaning our shorts, this gal just nonchalantly veers back into the right lane and continues on her way. It didn't look like she ever missed a beat in her conversation either. Get a phone in that woman's hand and watch the mayhem ensue! :surprise:

    Happily, I made it home without further incident, but -my goodness- did it seem like folks were having a heck of a time keeping their vehicles between the lines.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,762
    That's the way it typically is. I'll see Troopers sitting at the bottom of a long hill on the Steese, in an area where the road is a four-lane divided freeway with controlled access, and pull people over for driving 65. Sorry, but 65 is nowhere near unsafe for that road. The sign says 55 though, and that translates to dollar signs.

    I don't recall any significant collisions at that intersection since I have lived out there (ten years now), but there were a few alcohol-related collisions. Nothing fatal, mostly drivers rear-ending others who slow to turn left from the main highway. Of course, the last one of those was a few years back, and this Trooper-over-the-crest phenomenon is a more recent thing. You don't see too many drunks during the morning commute. ;)
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited June 2012
    You don't see too many drunks during the morning commute.

    Really? Fairbanks must have tamed way down. :P

    Don't tell me they don't let the bars stay open to 5 am anymore.

    btw, does your horn work? Maybe you need an air horn.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,762
    edited June 2012
    Hahah; it must have! I'm not sure what time the bars close, but it surely no later than 2a.

    My horn does work, but it didn't last night - there wasn't time for that because she didn't drift into my lane, she just yanked the wheel left to avoid the turning car (rather than slowing down as the other car slowed, which would have been the intelligent thing to do), and I was left to deal with the repercussions. What I *wanted* to do (afterward) was hold my ground and let her hit me (I was in the Escort, so I would have been okay with that), but I'm trained too well for that and did the whole duck and hide maneuver. When I ducked (which was swerving left into the oncoming lane), the oncoming car did honk, but it didn't seem to phase Ms. Dakota.

    Afterward I just chuckled and silently cursed yesterday's post to this topic. :P
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  • eliaselias Member Posts: 2,209
    edited June 2012
    If you aren't prepared for the car in front of you to randomly slam on brakes, you are following too close. BACK OFF, just like yosemite-sam says!
    Road hazards happen. Little kids jump into road sometimes, you know. Happened locally in Boston this week. The kid is dead and the driver fled.
  • eliaselias Member Posts: 2,209
    edited June 2012
    Been bagged in Florida a couple times on I-95 in a recent decade, at the same speed I always get bagged at and am happy to discuss with law enforcement.

    Once on new years eve (day) at 1AM, I had an especially great/leisurely/informative conversation with the Florida trooper after he detained & cited me on a remote part of I-95 north of jacksonville. He seemed a bit bored & lonely. Not many cars on road then!

    In Florida and many other sample states *except one*, I have received excellent/professional/courteous roadside detentions and sometimes citation. Never a drunk-test, never asked to step out of vehicle. Each time well worth the tiny cost-per-mile, and tiny cost-per-minute saved, to ignore the posted limit on highways, and drive at the best speed for optimal safety and maximum alertness (above the posted-highway-limit, that is).

    btw, Florida has fine online traffic school program. Be there, aloha!

    Respect the cops. They don't come to your workplace and tell you that you are doing your job wrong. But if you disrespect the cop or argue against detention or citation, that's what you are doing to him.
  • eliaselias Member Posts: 2,209
    in the northeast, I understand that some of the most dangerous drunks are on the roads during the early commute prior to 7AM or 6AM.
    I've seen them - they are usually dawdling/weaving in the *middle lane* of 3-lane-highway. I've noticed that inconsiderate or drunk or otherwise unskilled drivers tend to drive in the middle highway lane.
    Evidently it's encouraged in some states, and illegal in other states, so it's no surprise that even well-meaning people can be confused about whether to keep right or keep-middle!
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    Saw an inconsiderate car today - early Neon caught fire in a busy intersection, lots of flames. I drove past maybe 30 seconds after the first fire truck arrived. I bet that made a traffic nightmare, not to mention the loss of the car.

    Also a nice observation - what is it with lifted truck drivers and late model M3 drivers? Both always seem to floor it off the line in all situations, no matter the traffic density they are approaching. Even the immature WRX crowd isn't so bad.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    edited June 2012
    You jinxed yourself. Speaking of horns, I will only say I am 100% certain that both cars have working horns, as they seem to get tested now and then :shades:
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    I should have detailed my post more, I was referring to Miami in particular. I seem to remember a lot less revenue enforcement north of Daytona Beach or so. Also, a lot more traps in GA once one is south of Macon, and hardly any seemed to be out around Atlanta.

    I've barely ever had to deal with cops - I am an attentive driver so I usually avoid traps, and I don't drive recklessly. 95% of cops are upstanding respectable and respectful people, but there's a small minority who really kill the rep of the entire profession.

    About the workplace thing, not many non-executive private sector workers can get away with what they can pull off before an eventual firing...I can't feel sorry for them there. If they'd call out their bad brothers, I would feel different...but as it is now, they give people reason to lump the good with the bad.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,290
    Respect the cops. They don't come to your workplace and tell you that you are doing your job wrong.

    Maybe not at your job.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,290
    I have to drive some distance to get to an interstate highway with less than 3 lanes. Many of them have more than three lanes. I usually stay out of the right lane simply due to the frequency of an and off ramps with a study flow of traffic using them. It just makes driving a lot easier staying out of that right lane.

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  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    If you aren't prepared for the car in front of you to randomly slam on brakes, you are following too close. BACK OFF, just like yosemite-sam says!

    And, it is not only directly in front, but what is going on many vehicles ahead of that.

    I like the old rule of one car length for every 10 MPH. When in fast lane, there are some drivers, idiots, who rush up, tailgate and in essence try to coerce me into following at one car length, or less, just like them. Won't happen. They are idiots. One can observe them more easily from the usually less intense, less stressful right lane of say a 3-lane interstate. They coerce, intimidate, jump from lane to lane, get back in left fast lane and intimidate the next driver. In fantasy, would be nice to have a James Bond equipped car with "heat" available in the back.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    You've been in the fast lane before? :P

    The best tailgater treatment is just to let off the gas. Especially good in cars with tall gearing/heavy engine braking.
  • fanaticfanfanaticfan Member Posts: 1
    I discovered this as a result of the 2nd Great Depression. Have a 15-year-old car that was getting kind of dicey for long-distance trips, but it was the only car we had to move in. So, decided, for our safety, to stay in the right lane so that if something did break, we'd be able to pull over quickly. Just decided to deal with the right-lane highway activity using brakes. If someone in front of us was going slow, we just slowed down.

    Turned out, over a 2000-mile road-trip, that this was actually far less stressful, and easier on the car (I was babying EVERYTHING: brakes, valve gaskets, steering rack, suspension, maximizing gas mileage to save $$$). It was MAGIC. I'd never driven like this before, assuming the middle lane was optimal on a 3-lane-in-the-same-direction highway.

    I did go middle-lane when the traffic wasn't too bad, and in more congested areas. Just didn't mind people zooming around me on either side.

    Within limits, the slower you go, the more time you have to react, the easier it is on the car, and all the crazies usually cluster together and fight each other on each others' bumpers as an amusing road-show up ahead. Just keep the roadshow far up ahead so when they blow each other up, you're clear of the shrapnel. :)

    Seriously, you don't need to be a road obstacle to do this, neither does it really change overall driving time that much; and it REALLY reduces stress.

    I drive this way all the time now, even with a new car now, and it's great. The ones who need to justify spending money they don't have on power and luxury they don't really need to impress people they don't really know or care about can all go on up ahead and bug each other out, it's fine with me.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    edited July 2012
    I find driving my old car on the highway to be less ire-inducing than the modern car, simply because I tend to stay out of the left lane the majority of the time. Well less stressful when it isn't having any mechanical spasms. I recently rented a slower car than my daily driver, and it too was a less harried experience - when the car can't perform like a supercar, there's less desire to try it, maybe. I think my next car might be a diesel partially for that reason, it might be more relaxing.

    Too bad that around here, simply going the limit is often enough to get the left lane much of the time.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    edited July 2012
    A WalMart Neighborhood Market opened in my town 2 days ago, and earlier I thought I would go check it out before the crowds. No surprise, the parking lot is a zoo. Like I have said before, multiculturalism is awesome for foodies, but it is a disaster for drivers. Throw in a few centenarians, and you'll be running to get out. At least the parking spots aren't too tiny. It's handy to park far away so you can escape easier.

    When I was leaving, I saw a Focus lay on its horn because an SRX turned left out of the parking lot in front of it, like the Focus wasn't there. A couple minutes later I am on the road, and who do I get behind? Same SRX, going about 25 in a 35, driver probably a War of 1812 vet. Time for some age-based testing, methinks.

    Also got behind a G37 coupe with that hoary drone (and hideous aftermarket gold wheels) driven by someone I won't describe, who would tap their brakes almost like clockwork every other block. It was weird.
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,856
    My boss has an early G35 and I hate the exhaust. It just doesn't sound right. I would have thought that the newer ones were better.

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    At least the parking spots aren't too tiny

    Must be some newer requirement by those city planners you think so highly of. :shades:

    There's a fix for the narrow lanes now:

    "Straighter, neater parking means more space for all.”

    Ford's Active Park Assist Plans to Save Us from Curbs and Body Shops Everywhere (Straightline)

    Now you'll get to wait an extra 5 minutes as everyone backs into those spaces.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    Maybe it was a G35, I have repressed the memory. I want to say it was the new shape though. Either way, the wheels were heinous and the sound was nauseating. I have to imagine it seeps into the cabin too. I bet the owners think it is "sporty", but that's not sporty.

    Funny thing, someone who parks a couple spaces from me has a new 370Z, and it seems quieter than those Gs.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    Oh, if only the planners who write development regs were the same ones who contrive traffic controls. Probably sixty-leven levels of bureaucracy between them, each with an average salary approaching triple digits and virtually unfireable after 5 years on the job.

    I have no problem backing into spaces, in both of my excellent visibility cars I even only have to turn my head at the very end. But in this age of 3" tall windows and tall isolating overweight CUVs, I suppose the help is needed - the skill level of the average driver isn't high in a nation where you get a license if you can fog a mirror.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited July 2012
    This discussion is featured on the landing page this week and the accompanying photo Karen found made my day:

    image

    Be a good one for a caption contest. :shades:
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,440
    Looks like it was taken in Philly. If so, you could never get away with printing the caption...

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    LOL, Lemko, get that heap out of the way!
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    edited July 2012
    I like when bad drivers have their window down, makes it easier for me to call them names while I on foot. Just this morning, while jogging, I got to yell at a woman in a red Volvo who was texting while driving.

    Also had a car lurch into a crosswalk and then stop while I was in it - pearl white IS250 with a driver I won't describe.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 25,655
    edited July 2012
    A WalMart Neighborhood Market opened in my town 2 days ago, and earlier I thought I would go check it out before the crowds. No surprise, the parking lot is a zoo.

    Even the ghosts of WalMarts past can come back to haunt you. There's a boarded-up one in Glen Burnie, Maryland, at the west end of a shopping plaza that also contains a Giant grocery store. We were up that way Sunday, and leaving the Giant, went over to the WalMart side, because it was easier to get out at the traffic light on that side of the parking lot. Well, my buddy drove properly, staying in the main aisle that ran in front of the store, and then made a left turn onto the aisle that goes out to access another road that goes to the traffic light.

    Suddenly, out of nowhere, comes this mid-90's Silverado cutting across the parking lot at a 45 degree angle. Neither of us was going very fast, and I guess my buddy figured the guy would slow down and cut in behind us.

    Nope. Dude came right across, just looking straight ahead the whole time, and it was like a slow motion trainwreck in progress, or the death-dance between the Andrea Doria and the Stockholm. Dude ended up cutting across so close in front of us I could almost tell what brand of cigarette was hanging from his mouth!

    And then the dude starts to run the stop sign, but stops, about halfway through it. My buddy didn't honk his horn, but I reached over and laid into it! Dude looks about like he's disoriented, and slowly pulls forward.

    We had to make one more turn, this time a left, to actually get out to the traffic light, and there was another stop sign here. If you went straight, you just went back into the WalMart parking lot and had to circle back around. Well, this guy started to go straight, but then just stopped. My buddy went around him. I'd like to say I simply stayed quiet, but no, I rolled down the window as I went back and shouted a few choice words that I won't repeat here because I'm too genteel. And stuff. :P

    Oh, and speaking of the people of WalMart...I think that curse might have extended to the Giant grocery store in that plaza. When we left the store with our shopping cart, there was an '03 or so Crown Vic, fading gray, and its windows tinted with cigarette smoke, parked across the wheelchair/shopping cart ramp and crosswalk. They had their shopping cart positioned in a bad spot, too, with the husband who, at the rate he's going, will probably need a Hoveround in a few years, with a basket up front to hang his belly, getting stuff out of the cart, and handing it to his heifer of a wife who was loading up the back seat, totally oblivious to the fact that they were effectively blocking the exit. Dunno why they had the shopping cart so far away from the car. In its condition, another parking lot ding or two wouldn't have made a difference.

    We just kinda pushed on through them with the cart. And I really had to fight to keep my mouth shut on this one...main thing that stopped me was my buddy begging me not to make a scene. I obliged...that time. :P
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 25,655
    almost forgot (and how could I forget this one)...ultimately, my buddy and I did not make it through yesterday totally unscathed. In the afternoon, we were on our way to go to a movie. We got hit on Friday night with some really bad storms, and a lot of places (including my home, but not work unfortunately) are still without power. Well, when the traffic lights go down, it seems like people lose all common sense.

    Well, we came to one such dead traffic light, where we had to make a right turn. However, the right turn is from a small merge lane, so it has a yield sign. Well, a 2003 or so Altima comes blowing through the intersection like the light was green, so my buddy stopped. And suddenly, we felt the tap from behind, and jerked ahead a few feet. Unfortunately, the girl in the 2000-ish Hyundai Elantra didn't quite stop in time.

    Thankfully, damage wasn't too bad on my buddy's '06 Xterra. It pushed the center part of the bumper into the spare tire that hangs underneath, and knocked out one of the license plate lights, which we were able to just push back in.

    In contrast, I have the feeling the Elantra's a total. Hood and grille got smashed back, headlights cracked, fenders damaged, and it started leaking coolant. It also had prior body damage on the passenger side back door, where it looked like it had scraped up against something.

    Thankfully, nobody was hurt, and the teenage girl who was driving was very apologetic. Police arrived on the scene in about two minutes. At first it was just one county cop, but then suddenly there were FOUR of them! And soon thereafter two city cops.

    At one point I saw a Bentley run through the intersection without stopping, and I just muttered to myself, but not all that quietly "Oh, he has a Bentley, so I guess he doesn't have to stop at that intersection!" One of the cop-ettes heard me, but was looking away at the time, replied "Oh, he'll stop alright, when he gets T-boned!"
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 25,655
    She makes me think of Leah Remini, the wife Carrie on "King of Queens". Only a bit more attitudinal. If I saw her behind me acting like that, whatever I was doing that was annoying her, I think I'd be tempted to do it more!
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,762
    Very funny that you left the collision off your initial post, Andre! A collision is so much more forgettable than all of that other stuff going on!
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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,856
    He was building up to it! :P

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,762
    Hahah; it certainly worked out that way!
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 25,655
    He was building up to it!

    Well, also, the people of WalMart/Giant just seemed more comical in their pigheaded jerkiness. I felt kinda bad for the girl in the Hyundai.

    I was also a bit annoyed that the cops showed up, but in the long run it may have been for the best. This girl didn't have her insurance or registration info on her, and it was her sister's car. So, without a police report (police verified the insurance and registration info), I guess it could've been a bit messy reporting it to the insurance co.

    And also, I'll admit that it's not often that I have much of anything nice to say about the police. But this time, around, every single cop was very nice, courteous, helpful. Non-judgemental, didn't try to talk down to any of us, make us respect their authoritah, etc.
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,856
    I just hate most of the shopping areas around here as a rule.

    Between the idiot drivers, the poorly designed parking lots, and the sheer amount of traffic I stay away if I can (or go really early which my Fiance hates)

    Most Walmarts are just so large and busy they seem to be the worst.

    Yesterday's winner was actually in a parking lot. I pulled out of a row of parking spots onto the exit road. The SUV driver behind me decides I am not going fast enough (I had no where to go traffic in front) and attempts to pass me on the right. Well.... she didn't realize the lane ended and had to slam on her brakes and sneak back in behind me. Oh, and I didn't speed up in order to not let her in.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    Whenever I have to go to a mall or any big box store with a disaster area parking lot (pretty much all of them - you should see the Costcos around here), I make it a point to go right when they open. The hassle of going early is less than the hassle of dodging the inept.
  • detroit2013detroit2013 Member Posts: 2
    edited July 2012
    ;) While driving to the store today, I was being tailgated in my new 2013 Mustang Boss 302 by a
    large BMW sedan. I entered the left turn lane with the BMW behind me. When the left turn arrow
    turned green I made the left turn and moved over into the right hand lane. The BMW proceeded
    to pull ahead and crowd me out. I shifted to second gear and pulled ahead of the accelerating BMW by at least five car lengths, not shifting to third gear, and only at 5500 RPM. At the next light the BMW M5 pulled in behind me in the right lane rather than pulling alongside me.
    My BOSS 302 is rated at 444 HP @ 7500 RPM, the BMW M5 is rated at 500.
    I rest my case!! BUY AMERICAN MUSCLE!

    :shades:
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,856
    According to specs your Mustang is .4 seconds faster to 60 than the M5. Your Mustang also weighs over 600lbs less. Not sure what your point is here other than saying you streetraced a slower car and won.

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  • xrunner2xrunner2 Member Posts: 3,062
    While driving to the store today, I was being tailgated in my new 2013 Mustang Boss 302 by a
    large BMW sedan. The BMW proceeded to pull ahead and crowd me out.


    Do some bmw drivers have an attitude? The commercials might encourage certain behavior. Such as ripping up sand on a beach by a bmw suv. Or, getting a coffee refill through the sunroof while driving from a low flying tanker airplane with long boom.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    But what about the Mustang driver who participated in the same behavior? What brought that on?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    Maybe your new lighter car is faster? Maybe he's a bad driver? Maybe he wasn't really trying in his could-be 6 year old car?
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 25,655
    Maybe he wasn't really trying in his could-be 6 year old car?

    That reminds me of something that happened years ago. I was in my '69 Dodge Dart GT, which just had a 225 slant six. My then-girlfriend was in the passenger seat, and her spoiled, princess best friend was in the back. We stopped at a traffic light, and a Porsche pulled up beside us. I didn't even notice it, but naturally the princess did!

    Well, light turns green, and I just happen to take faster than the Porsche. To which the princess exclaims "Ooh! Andre just blew off a Porsche!!" And she actually said it seriously...no sarcasm at all.
  • jg88jg88 Member Posts: 59
    Hate to generalize across an entire population and this does not hold true for all TX drivers, but after living here for 12 years, this is what I notice. A lot.

    -TX drivers get into the far left lane and drive below the speed limit. Seems the rule here is slow down in the passing lane, believe they do not know the far left lane is for passing. Often the person is on the phone.

    -Never, I mean never use a turn signal to change lanes. Or make turns. Why tip anyone off about your plans? Typically the larger vehicles such as pick-ups randomly change lanes, never signalling as they aggressively cut you off. Luckily you can often hear them coming because these types love to use the loudest exhaust system they can get.

    -Don't mess with Texas? What a sad joke. This state has the most littering of any I've ever been through. Last summer my son and I drove across country from NY, NJ, down to the Houston area, then to SoCal and NoCal; later in the summer from the Bay Area to Ithaca, NY. TX was far and away the most littered.

    Am sure the Texans in these parts would respond with a "why don't you leave?" Well, I'll tell you -- this is the best eating state I've ever been in, bar none. And generally, Texans when not behind the wheel are among the finest people I've ever met.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    That reminds me of a fond memory from when I was a kid. I remember I was with my dad, he still had the Horizon, so it must have been around 1985. We were speeding down the highway as he usually did in that car (first car I saw a pegged needle in was that one), and we passed a big MB W126. Even at a young age, I knew that MB was a lot faster and better than the Horizon. Passing it really impressed me, I remember it was pretty much a "wow!" moment for me - even though it's not like we were racing or the other car even noticed us. Kids...
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    Sounds just like Georgia, down to the "eating" bit. Well, maybe less LLCs there, as there are some bigtime speeders around ATL, and camping in the left lane could be dangerous as half the population probably has a handgun in the door panel, but otherwise yeah, esp the no signals bit, and the litter on suburban roads.
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