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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 47,559
    LOL, Lemko, get that heap out of the way!

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 36,454
    edited July 2012
    I like when bad drivers have their window down, makes it easier for me to call them names while I on foot. Just this morning, while jogging, I got to yell at a woman in a red Volvo who was texting while driving.

    Also had a car lurch into a crosswalk and then stop while I was in it - pearl white IS250 with a driver I won't describe.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,811
    edited July 2012
    A WalMart Neighborhood Market opened in my town 2 days ago, and earlier I thought I would go check it out before the crowds. No surprise, the parking lot is a zoo.

    Even the ghosts of WalMarts past can come back to haunt you. There's a boarded-up one in Glen Burnie, Maryland, at the west end of a shopping plaza that also contains a Giant grocery store. We were up that way Sunday, and leaving the Giant, went over to the WalMart side, because it was easier to get out at the traffic light on that side of the parking lot. Well, my buddy drove properly, staying in the main aisle that ran in front of the store, and then made a left turn onto the aisle that goes out to access another road that goes to the traffic light.

    Suddenly, out of nowhere, comes this mid-90's Silverado cutting across the parking lot at a 45 degree angle. Neither of us was going very fast, and I guess my buddy figured the guy would slow down and cut in behind us.

    Nope. Dude came right across, just looking straight ahead the whole time, and it was like a slow motion trainwreck in progress, or the death-dance between the Andrea Doria and the Stockholm. Dude ended up cutting across so close in front of us I could almost tell what brand of cigarette was hanging from his mouth!

    And then the dude starts to run the stop sign, but stops, about halfway through it. My buddy didn't honk his horn, but I reached over and laid into it! Dude looks about like he's disoriented, and slowly pulls forward.

    We had to make one more turn, this time a left, to actually get out to the traffic light, and there was another stop sign here. If you went straight, you just went back into the WalMart parking lot and had to circle back around. Well, this guy started to go straight, but then just stopped. My buddy went around him. I'd like to say I simply stayed quiet, but no, I rolled down the window as I went back and shouted a few choice words that I won't repeat here because I'm too genteel. And stuff. :P

    Oh, and speaking of the people of WalMart...I think that curse might have extended to the Giant grocery store in that plaza. When we left the store with our shopping cart, there was an '03 or so Crown Vic, fading gray, and its windows tinted with cigarette smoke, parked across the wheelchair/shopping cart ramp and crosswalk. They had their shopping cart positioned in a bad spot, too, with the husband who, at the rate he's going, will probably need a Hoveround in a few years, with a basket up front to hang his belly, getting stuff out of the cart, and handing it to his heifer of a wife who was loading up the back seat, totally oblivious to the fact that they were effectively blocking the exit. Dunno why they had the shopping cart so far away from the car. In its condition, another parking lot ding or two wouldn't have made a difference.

    We just kinda pushed on through them with the cart. And I really had to fight to keep my mouth shut on this one...main thing that stopped me was my buddy begging me not to make a scene. I obliged...that time. :P
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,811
    almost forgot (and how could I forget this one)...ultimately, my buddy and I did not make it through yesterday totally unscathed. In the afternoon, we were on our way to go to a movie. We got hit on Friday night with some really bad storms, and a lot of places (including my home, but not work unfortunately) are still without power. Well, when the traffic lights go down, it seems like people lose all common sense.

    Well, we came to one such dead traffic light, where we had to make a right turn. However, the right turn is from a small merge lane, so it has a yield sign. Well, a 2003 or so Altima comes blowing through the intersection like the light was green, so my buddy stopped. And suddenly, we felt the tap from behind, and jerked ahead a few feet. Unfortunately, the girl in the 2000-ish Hyundai Elantra didn't quite stop in time.

    Thankfully, damage wasn't too bad on my buddy's '06 Xterra. It pushed the center part of the bumper into the spare tire that hangs underneath, and knocked out one of the license plate lights, which we were able to just push back in.

    In contrast, I have the feeling the Elantra's a total. Hood and grille got smashed back, headlights cracked, fenders damaged, and it started leaking coolant. It also had prior body damage on the passenger side back door, where it looked like it had scraped up against something.

    Thankfully, nobody was hurt, and the teenage girl who was driving was very apologetic. Police arrived on the scene in about two minutes. At first it was just one county cop, but then suddenly there were FOUR of them! And soon thereafter two city cops.

    At one point I saw a Bentley run through the intersection without stopping, and I just muttered to myself, but not all that quietly "Oh, he has a Bentley, so I guess he doesn't have to stop at that intersection!" One of the cop-ettes heard me, but was looking away at the time, replied "Oh, he'll stop alright, when he gets T-boned!"
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,811
    She makes me think of Leah Remini, the wife Carrie on "King of Queens". Only a bit more attitudinal. If I saw her behind me acting like that, whatever I was doing that was annoying her, I think I'd be tempted to do it more!
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 9,522
    Very funny that you left the collision off your initial post, Andre! A collision is so much more forgettable than all of that other stuff going on!
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  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,233
    He was building up to it! :P

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 9,522
    Hahah; it certainly worked out that way!
    2008 and 2010 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup, 1974 Ford Pinto Wagon
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,811
    He was building up to it!

    Well, also, the people of WalMart/Giant just seemed more comical in their pigheaded jerkiness. I felt kinda bad for the girl in the Hyundai.

    I was also a bit annoyed that the cops showed up, but in the long run it may have been for the best. This girl didn't have her insurance or registration info on her, and it was her sister's car. So, without a police report (police verified the insurance and registration info), I guess it could've been a bit messy reporting it to the insurance co.

    And also, I'll admit that it's not often that I have much of anything nice to say about the police. But this time, around, every single cop was very nice, courteous, helpful. Non-judgemental, didn't try to talk down to any of us, make us respect their authoritah, etc.
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,233
    I just hate most of the shopping areas around here as a rule.

    Between the idiot drivers, the poorly designed parking lots, and the sheer amount of traffic I stay away if I can (or go really early which my Fiance hates)

    Most Walmarts are just so large and busy they seem to be the worst.

    Yesterday's winner was actually in a parking lot. I pulled out of a row of parking spots onto the exit road. The SUV driver behind me decides I am not going fast enough (I had no where to go traffic in front) and attempts to pass me on the right. Well.... she didn't realize the lane ended and had to slam on her brakes and sneak back in behind me. Oh, and I didn't speed up in order to not let her in.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 36,454
    Whenever I have to go to a mall or any big box store with a disaster area parking lot (pretty much all of them - you should see the Costcos around here), I make it a point to go right when they open. The hassle of going early is less than the hassle of dodging the inept.
  • detroit2013detroit2013 Posts: 2
    edited July 2012
    ;) While driving to the store today, I was being tailgated in my new 2013 Mustang Boss 302 by a
    large BMW sedan. I entered the left turn lane with the BMW behind me. When the left turn arrow
    turned green I made the left turn and moved over into the right hand lane. The BMW proceeded
    to pull ahead and crowd me out. I shifted to second gear and pulled ahead of the accelerating BMW by at least five car lengths, not shifting to third gear, and only at 5500 RPM. At the next light the BMW M5 pulled in behind me in the right lane rather than pulling alongside me.
    My BOSS 302 is rated at 444 HP @ 7500 RPM, the BMW M5 is rated at 500.
    I rest my case!! BUY AMERICAN MUSCLE!

  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,233
    According to specs your Mustang is .4 seconds faster to 60 than the M5. Your Mustang also weighs over 600lbs less. Not sure what your point is here other than saying you streetraced a slower car and won.

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  • xrunner2xrunner2 Posts: 3,062
    While driving to the store today, I was being tailgated in my new 2013 Mustang Boss 302 by a
    large BMW sedan. The BMW proceeded to pull ahead and crowd me out.

    Do some bmw drivers have an attitude? The commercials might encourage certain behavior. Such as ripping up sand on a beach by a bmw suv. Or, getting a coffee refill through the sunroof while driving from a low flying tanker airplane with long boom.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 36,454
    But what about the Mustang driver who participated in the same behavior? What brought that on?
  • fintailfintail Posts: 36,454
    Maybe your new lighter car is faster? Maybe he's a bad driver? Maybe he wasn't really trying in his could-be 6 year old car?
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,811
    Maybe he wasn't really trying in his could-be 6 year old car?

    That reminds me of something that happened years ago. I was in my '69 Dodge Dart GT, which just had a 225 slant six. My then-girlfriend was in the passenger seat, and her spoiled, princess best friend was in the back. We stopped at a traffic light, and a Porsche pulled up beside us. I didn't even notice it, but naturally the princess did!

    Well, light turns green, and I just happen to take faster than the Porsche. To which the princess exclaims "Ooh! Andre just blew off a Porsche!!" And she actually said it sarcasm at all.
  • jg88jg88 Posts: 59
    Hate to generalize across an entire population and this does not hold true for all TX drivers, but after living here for 12 years, this is what I notice. A lot.

    -TX drivers get into the far left lane and drive below the speed limit. Seems the rule here is slow down in the passing lane, believe they do not know the far left lane is for passing. Often the person is on the phone.

    -Never, I mean never use a turn signal to change lanes. Or make turns. Why tip anyone off about your plans? Typically the larger vehicles such as pick-ups randomly change lanes, never signalling as they aggressively cut you off. Luckily you can often hear them coming because these types love to use the loudest exhaust system they can get.

    -Don't mess with Texas? What a sad joke. This state has the most littering of any I've ever been through. Last summer my son and I drove across country from NY, NJ, down to the Houston area, then to SoCal and NoCal; later in the summer from the Bay Area to Ithaca, NY. TX was far and away the most littered.

    Am sure the Texans in these parts would respond with a "why don't you leave?" Well, I'll tell you -- this is the best eating state I've ever been in, bar none. And generally, Texans when not behind the wheel are among the finest people I've ever met.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 36,454
    That reminds me of a fond memory from when I was a kid. I remember I was with my dad, he still had the Horizon, so it must have been around 1985. We were speeding down the highway as he usually did in that car (first car I saw a pegged needle in was that one), and we passed a big MB W126. Even at a young age, I knew that MB was a lot faster and better than the Horizon. Passing it really impressed me, I remember it was pretty much a "wow!" moment for me - even though it's not like we were racing or the other car even noticed us. Kids...
  • fintailfintail Posts: 36,454
    Sounds just like Georgia, down to the "eating" bit. Well, maybe less LLCs there, as there are some bigtime speeders around ATL, and camping in the left lane could be dangerous as half the population probably has a handgun in the door panel, but otherwise yeah, esp the no signals bit, and the litter on suburban roads.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: US 25 & US 40Posts: 19,789
    To me it seems some BMW drivers bought the car to boost their ego and self concept; it shows in how they drive them to be sure they get noticed and to display some domination actions. I thought about that as I thought also of Fintail when an S63 passed me on an curving flyover interstate ramp. I was slowing to the recommended 40 so I was at about 50 in my stable and capable Buick. The other driver of the relatively new looking S63 passed on the outside lane without a show of tailgating nor pushing. He held it at about 52 on his 30 profile 20 inch wheels (I'm guessing) and very carefully followed his lane. He did not cut back over as the merge with lanes and traffic from the right from other ramps and then from the left onto the new interstate. His S63 held the lane beautifully and the driver was spot on driving rather than showing. He speeded up at the end of the curve and the machine looked impressive.

    Some cars that are very capable don't have to be driven in a showy manner to garner respect.
  • No point to make, and nothing to prove. One thing for certain, that is one
    M5 driver that will never tangle with another $50K BOSS 302.
    ;) ;)
  • fintailfintail Posts: 36,454
    MB drivers, like their cars, tend to be a little more conservative and restrained than their Audi and BMW counterparts. Not that plenty of jerks don't exist - but they aren't as flamboyant.

    I find yellow signed ramps to be woefully underposted, around here. There are corners posted at 35 that a 1952 London double decker bus with a drunk driver could easily handle at that speed. I've taken them at ~70 (empty road) without anything more than some extra g forces.
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Posts: 3,062
    edited July 2012
    I find yellow signed ramps to be woefully underposted, around here.

    Watch out for cloverleaf ramps if driving an interstate segment ramp for the first time. There is a decreasing radius ramp near an I90 interstate in my area that would be a challenge for an out of area hot-foot M5, or any other sporty, car driver.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: US 25 & US 40Posts: 19,789
    edited July 2012
    This is the ramp. It seems to me that it should have more slope to be safer at higher than 40 mph. I suspect in icing conditions a slope might be problematic so they keep it relatively horizontal.

    IN one forum folks with cars that are indeed capable said they do ramps at double the posting. I'd like to see someone do this at 80 mph. It's the northbound ramp to westbound--top of pic is north.

    Curve has claimed a Budweiser semi which dumped lots of cartons of cans onto the westbound lane below, damaging a few cars, several other semis have tipped over, a motorcycle rider went over the concrete rail landing 50 or so feet below on ground.

  • fintailfintail Posts: 36,454
    Luckily very few true cloverleafs in this region. Usually off ramps and on ramps in my area don't share the same patch of road - people here get confused as many can barely handle merging or exiting without having to look for other cars doing the opposite.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 47,559
    edited July 2012
    There's a flying one like that around Austin that got my attention in a rental car a couple of years ago. Not only was it a decreasing radius curve, it felt like it was 150' in the air. I was just tooling along in tourist mode (but close to the "edge" in the right lane) and it woke me up a bit.

    Only inconsiderate driver today was a sedate old beater with a loud stereo.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 12,364
    I have to ask what engine was in the Horizon. I had the Omni with the 2.2 and that was pretty peppy. IIRC it was a little under 100 HP pushing a 2300 pound car. After someone made a left turn infront of me I got an Omni GLH (and yeah it did go like hell something like 145 HP). For the mid 80's that was a pretty decent car in off the line acceleration. I do believe that Shelby put out a 175 HP varient of the Omni one year.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 36,454
    My dad's was older, maybe around a 1980...I guess that would be the smaller (1.9?) engine. At least it was a stick. He liked that car a lot, he'd drive it hard and it didn't falter, he raved about how it drove in the snow. I remember he test drove a later Horizon - one that was very plush compared to his car, but he didn't buy it...eventually getting an S-10 Blazer instead, something he didn't like nearly as much. GLH would have been pretty cool back in the day.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,811
    One of my friends had one of the final Horizons (1989 or 1990, I forget now), with the 2.2/automatic, and sadly, that thing was a dog. His was a total stripper. No a/c, no power steering/brakes. I put a stereo with a tape player in for him, but I can't remember if it came with an AM radio, or just a face plate, but pre-wiring.

    Anyway, he tried to drag race me one time, back when I had my '69 Dart GT. Now, my Dart had the 225-1bbl slant six, which was 145 hp gross, 110 net. Weighed about 2900 lb. Had a/c and power steering, which would rob some power. 3-speed Torqueflite.

    The 2.2 had 96 hp, and in theory, I'd think that a 2200-2300 lb car with that engine and no a/c or power steering to sap the power, would be able to take my Dart. But, somehow, I walked him like a dog.

    And, to add insult to injury, a couple days later, he tried to blame me for messing up his car! He said that, ever since he tried to drag race me, it wasn't running right! :blush:

    FWIW, Consumer Reports tested a '68 Dart 270 with the same powertrain as mine, and got 0-60 in 14 seconds (don't remember if it had a/c or not). Consumer Guide tested a 1985 Reliant with the 2.2 and a/c, automatic, and got 0-60 in 13.5 seconds. And you'd think and Omni/Horizon with the same engine but without a/c and a few hundred less pounds, would be quicker than that. :confuse:

    Actually, just looked, and my'85 Consumer Guide tested an '85 Horizon wit the 2.2 and a stick, and got 0-60 in 10.2 seconds. They also tested an '85 Omni GLH with the slightly hotter 110 hp (versus 96 hp) 2.2 and a stick, and it wasn't much quicker...10.1 seconds.

    146 and 175 are actually turbo 2.2 hp numbers. Did they ever put the turbo in the Omni/Horizon? I had an '88 LeBaron turbo with the 146 hp version, which I think they called the Turbo I. 175 hp was the Turbo II I think, and I believe the Turbo III was the 224 hp engine that went in the Dodge Spirit R/T.

    As for the Omni GLH, there were several versions over the years. I think the '85 only had around
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