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Good point Hayneldan, but rather subjective I would argue. I've driven both vehicles - my opinion is that the Honda has the superior handeling.
My point with this comment was to 1) revive a dying thread and 2) demonstrate one facet that is contributing to the demise of US atuomakers.
2002 will see just 4% fewer vehicles sold than the all time record set two years ago, yet domestic auto makers like DC, will post a loss. UAW contacts are set to expire in 2003. Domestic automakers, like DC, who had planned on bringing innovations to the marketplace in 2004, will have a difficult time doing so with increasing downward price pressures brought about by these contract negotiations. Don't count on innovation from the likes of DC any time soon.
Sounds like innovation to me, from the company that pretty much invented the whole MV category.
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Lofty goals I'd say, especially with the uncertainty in the market and unrest in the middle east and now N. Korea. Couple in some very tough negotiations with the UAW and it may mean lots of cars sitting on dealer lots. Good for consumers - maybe. Keep in mind that in the last contract with the UAW, automakers accepted a "no plant closing" clause that kept plants open and allowed laid off auto workers to receive 95% of their pay when laid off. Doubtful that kind of language will stay in the new contract. It could be a very long year for US automakers.
VW begs to differ. I've heard rumors that they had minivans in the 50's. In fact, they also know something about the double sliding door thing since they were also doing that in the 1950's. After all, once you invent the sliding door, as VW did, it was easy to do it again on the other side. Too bad they cannot make a minivan capable of even competing these days.
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