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-mike
:-)
...just giving you a hard time...
oh wait, that's like a "real" magazine, isn't it? People still read those huh?
Steve, Host
As I mentioned in a earlier post my delaer was trying to get a Ivy Green EX but could only find a EX with Luxury in upper state Mass which my wife didn't mind, but that dealer had installed a DVD player in the vehicle and was asking 2300 more for it. Even my dealer said outragous. But good news, my dealer was allocated 5 Sorentos for his next shipment each in a different color and 2 are LX and 3 are EX and he was able to get a Ivy Green EX w/ABS for my wife. Now we just have to wait 2-3 weeks for it to get to NJ then trucked to CT. My dea;er has 2 in his lot from the original 4 and 2 other dealers have none but a fourth dealer in the state has about 10 and his ADM is $1800 to $2400 over the MSRP. Supposedly this was his alloction till mid Jan 2003 and he was not getting any till then.
I went up to that CA web site (post #700) and those prices are marked up 5to 7 thousand. I'll stick to my CT dealer who isn't trying to rape me yet.
Also checked on the limited slip diferrential which comes standard in the 4x4 models but funny thing at the dealer is a LX model, no 4x4 and no limited slip, but the EX model with no 4x4 have a knob where the 4x4 knob is and it states 2WD and Snow the salesman thought that you could lock up up the rear differential for snowy conditions. Again he thought thats what it was for. The vehicle is so new and far in between in Ct that these sales guys don't know to much about them. You think Kia would have a briefing tape for them to review.
What brand and model (Dana35, Dana44, ...) of rear end does the Sorento have? What kind of LSD?
Thanks.
As for the LSD it's probably a traditional clutch style one.
-mike
Does she have a Dana rear end? Probably "Corporate"!
a) an Elantra/Spectra-based multiple wheel drive tall wagon against Vibe, Matrix, RAV4, CRV
b) the shortened Sorento with "my created name" of "Sorento Sport".
Again, I stil believe we will get both!
Well, Hyundai will show their version of the AWD-Elantra-wagon next year at New York, and it should be available as an 2004-model later in 2003. Name is not yet determined, and it will not be the LaVita/Matrix thingy.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
-mike
Under $25,000 Kia Sorento
$25,001 - $35,000 Toyota 4Runner
$35,001 - $45,000 Volvo XC90
More than $45,000 Land Rover Range Rover
Best Value Kia Sorento
Overall Winner Volvo XC90
Outlander's engine is noisy, but why would that surprise anyone? It has a 140HP/157TQ that's why. And though the TQ helps it's faintly strength in performance, the engine is already begging for you to lift your foot off the gas pedal. Surprisingly, it even hit 6k RPM both times before changing from 1st to 2nd then to 3rd (AT trans.) on leveled pavement. Normally other vehicles don't hit redline unless it's up on a hill and you have the pedal to the floor.
For those who are not performance intrigued, it is suitable for you. And most likely my wife wouldn't mind it because she doesn't care for HP, but I do and you never know when you may need it, even if she's driving. The shift-tronic is smooth when changing gears though. Inside, the XLS is the most decent, plastic but with 'some' class. It is very roomy in comparison to others in it's class. Now remember, I'm 6'5" and the rear seats were impressive. In addition, the back seats recline for better comfort and long rides.
But after I drove it, the salesperson suggested to park it side by side to their Sorento on the lot. Well, needless to say, it brought me back. Sorento reminded me of what I seemed to have forgotten or overlooked. The fit and finish is no contest. Once I sat in the Sorento, my butt was smiling all over again. Sorento you brought me back home...
Need your help guys, this dealer is offering the Sorento at $500 over invoice. Yep, you read it right... Now out of curiosity, I have some figures and hopefully you can help me out...
Lease:
12k a year, 48 months w/$3000 down:
$428 month
Finance:
$3000 down, 5 yrs at 6.9%:
$461 month
Does this sound right or am I missing something here?
If it sounds right, I'm still gonna try and wait for some offer from KIA.
Well, enough running the mouth... Thanks. ;-)
If you have excellent credit, you should be able to do better than 6.9%. Tell the dealer, peoplesoft on line approved you for 4.75 and see if they will match it?
Why lease a vehicle for 4 years and walk away with nothing at the end?? You would be better off with just purchasing the vehicle and pay it off in 5 years or sooner by paying extra dollars each month.
I do not want to repeat all of my postings but the UK-Sorento will be sold end of this month. Continental Europe has the Sorento already (some countries since July 02), it's a big hit, and the initial deliveries were the Common Rail Diesels, manual transmissions. We (Northamerica) will not get the Diesels. Yes, the Sorento has a 3rd row mini-seat in Korea for insurance/tax purposes. We will not see it here, neither in Europe. Especially in Korea they have other goodies (nav-system, voiceconnect for cellphone, tooo much to list here), and Europe has the headlight washer/wiper system as well - which we will not get... (yet?!)
Keep on rolling, my friends!
I'm sure that leasing such a vehicle for 4 yrs. is a waste of money, especially for just 12k miles a yr. and not calling it mine. I'm hoping for a offer from KIA but may just go with the flow by Dec. *shrug* We'll see...
I guess when Dec. comes, I'll be pulling out all my ammo ;-)
I'm looking into the EX without the leather and Ruby Red with Grey interior.
clpurnell:
Got help from the lease forum. Briefly... don't lease the KIA!
It looks like you and i are in a same situation. I want to buy sorento now but not willing to pay msrp for it waiting till dec or maybe longer.
Check this out. I went to another kia dealer today and they had a $1,999 dealer prep fee and $499 for customer service something. The dealer prep fee is no typo. I asked the salesperson what those extra charges were and he says and I quote "I don't know how that got on there. I don't know who put that extra charges on there. I remove those extra charges when I make a deal for my customer" unquote. I almost busted out laughing *L* If this dealer wants to sell it for msrp, why don't they just come out and say it
Sedanman2, I saw your posting, thanks for the heads up. Another dealer told me that they could get it in 60-90 days. I told the dealer that I am working with now that if I didn't have the truck in a month, I was going to go with the other dealer. They promise that they will do there best, and if they can't deliver in a reasonable amount of time, have no problem with refunding my deposit . You can bet I will stay on top of them.
Cargo/Luggage capacity (cubic feet)
CRV: 72 / 33.5
Kia: 66 / 31.4
Front head room 42.6 to 41.3
and
Front shoulder room 58.9 to 56.9
It depends if you need more room for Cargo/luggage, or want more people comfort.
It appears the Sorento is wider and will give you an inch or two more room for seating. I am still amazed that the CRV has 6 cubic feet more space, that is fairly significant. BTW I am not saying that bigger is better, I am just surprised. Why is the Sorento considered a mid size SUV and the CRV is considered a mini?
The Escape is a mini and it puts out more HP then the Sorento.