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Have been told by dealer in OCtober that is was the gas, it is normal, etc. It is not normal and not all Corolla '03's have the problem! Am going to second dealership and have contacted the National Safety Transportation Board to complain.
Suggest that others complain officially if they are not being helped! There is a problem and Toyota does not seem to be willing to do anything about it, so contact them officially as well. Any other suggestions, let me know. But, I for one, will not take this lying down.
Bil, In Washington
Have been told by dealer in OCtober that is was the gas, it is normal, etc. It is not normal and not all Corolla '03's have the problem! Am going to second dealership and have contacted the National Safety Transportation Board to complain.
Suggest that others complain officially if they are not being helped! There is a problem and Toyota does not seem to be willing to do anything about it, so contact them officially as well. Any other suggestions, let me know. But, I for one, will not take this lying down.
Bil, In Washington
Don't sit back and take it; do something constructive.
Farriz
fgf001, do you still have the problem? Does it only occur when it is very cold?
As for those saying that your car is supposed to run on 87 octane and why should you use premium if it does... Your car will STILL run on 87 octane, but most premium gas offered by most distributors is low sulphur content, so that is why they are making that recomendation. For those living in areas that don't have the low sulphur requirement, other than trying different stations, this may be the only way of finding low-sulphur content gas.
I'm not saying that this is correct, or nice, to have a vehicle that has this sulphur smell, but if you had bought many other makes or models of car out there with the current levels of emmissions requirements, you would probably have the same problem.
Sorry for the long post, but just wanted to clarify some of the issues that have been brought up.
Ken
Regarding your post, no comment . . .
In addition when asked if all the Corolla '03 have this problem, I was told that he had no idea. "Not everyone complains about a squeak or noise in the car."
Bottom line is that Toyota USA is refusing to admit there is a problem and is trying to pass this problem as something we consumers should accept; and perhaps most of us will...
I am moving on to a lawyer who works on such "lemon" cases in the Northern Virginia area and will advise as things proceed. We may also may spend a few hours in front of the dealer with signs such as, "Buy your Smelly Corolla from Koons".
Any suggestions for signs, let me know, I was thinking of having my dog have a sign saying, This car is too smelly for me". Anyway appreciate your suggestions and comments.
Seriously, write an official letter to Toyota USA. The address is in the service manual that comes with the car.
I did not spend $17,000 for a car that smells. I have rented five New cars (different models, usually compacts similar to Corolla) over the past eight months.. some for as long as a month, and none smelled! And I drove them in the same geographic area and same gas, always a name brand.
Bill in Fairfax, VA.
I hope this helps explain where my statements are coming from.
Ken
The Sandman :-)
While I egree that high sulfur levels in US gas and higher converter temps of the ULEV certified cars are partially responsible for the problem, the fact is that the Toyota dealerships tend to point fingers and blaim others rather than try to diagnose and fix the problem. The usual treatment is: "every new car does it" or "it is normal" or "change the gas station".
IT IS NOT NORMAL, NOT EVERY CAR DOES IT, H2S IS TOXIC ANF OFFENDING, AND THESE CARS SHOULD BE REPAIRED.
It is as simple as this. I am not sure why it is so difficult to understand. If Toyota mechanics cannot diagnose and fix the problem (rich combustion conditions), the stinky car should be replaced under the lemon law regulations.
Thank you and have a nice day.
so if you only have like 5 songs on the cd, the player may not load the cd.
Wait until they start building the new Lexus RX330 in Canada and it gets hammered by problems.
The best Toyota's to buy aren't new ones.
We were wondering how much would be a good value for the car? The first year depreciation according to Edmund's is around $3500. Our feeling is that anything less than 15000(TMV of new car)-3500=$11,500 could be a good value.
Also, how reliable are program cars in the long run ?
Any comments suggestion welcome.
Regarding the smell issue I was reading here - we bought a '02 Subaru Forester in November '01. For the first year we would get an awful sulfury smell from time to time (twice it turned out to be pretty embarrassing with friends in the car !). Our dealer, as well as people hanging out in the Subaru discussion described this as a smell from the burning of a rubber coating on the underside of the car (this coating is to protect the car while shipping). But having had the car for more than a year I still sometimes get the smell although its much rarer. Do not know if this is related to the Corolla smell but thought I'd share my experience.
(sorry for posting about the '03 Corolla here in the M&R section...had to relate the smell from a Subie to a Corolla somehow )
I have some comments on the Subaru smell. I own a 2000 Subaru Legacy. For the first several months I had the burning smell from rust proof coating near exhaust (typical for subarus and not a big hassle).
The sulfur smell I experience with my 2003 corolla is distinctively different. It has an offensive sewer or rotten-egg quality. Fortunately it is intermitten.
Good luck.
Yes, footie, rattles seem to be a big problem across the boards this year for Toyo, but I wouldn't assume, based on that, that long-term reliability or repair frequency has changed in these vehicles...the next few years will tell that story, I suppose...nothing that has rattled in any of these vehicles so far has caused any type of mechanical problem, or any problem at all more than annoyance.
The real threat to long-term reliability is not some rattling plastic trim, but rather the squeeze Toyota is putting on its part suppliers for further price reductions when no more are possible without decreasing quality. Toyota is not the only one doing this...in fact, one of the big keys to Nissan's revival was major pressure on its parts suppliers resulting in lower costs. And the domestics have been busily going about their own slash-and-burn thing for more than a year now.
Given my druthers, I would rather that Toyota maintained the line on the quality of its parts, and raised their vehicle prices a little if need be.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
How can I get the info on the TSP?
But hey, if you have a Vibe, take it out and see if it does that, and if not, you don't have to worry!
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I was curious to see a post earlier that a Torrance, CA service department had said the rotten smell was routine, seeing as they are in CA and have the low-sulfur gas too. Are there California-operated corollas that have this problem, or was it a standard BS response from a service tech?
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
http://www.alldata.com/
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/
just remember that with TSB's, it doesn't necessarily mean that your car have this problem. from what i understand, TSB's are more of like warnings.
http://www.alldata.com/
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/
just remember that with TSB's, it doesn't necessarily mean that your car have this problem. from what i understand, TSB's are more of like warnings.
Either way, they do not meet the legal standard to be a full-on recall (not safety-related)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
HAS ANY ONE FOUND A SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM? I WOULD LOVE SUGGESTIONS FROM ANYONE WHO IS HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM.
Thanks!
Ths Sandman :-)
Very happy camper now. With 66k on the odometer, am hoping to keep this puppy another year or so.
One last question, I think I need rear struts. Anyone else replace them and what's a good choice? Had the fronts done under a TSB at the dealership at 23k, some kind of groaning front end TSB. Any help would be appreciated.
The Sandman :-)
Number 001/5884. Let your Toyota mechanic know about it.
Thanks.
NHTSA Item Number: 65609
Date was 2/83
Did not find anything under Matrix, nor Vibe.
Good info on using the correct Automatic Tranny Fluid though.
And this on a bright sunny day. Oh yes, the Toyota engineers have outdone themselves with this "helpful" feature.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)