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  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    Also got an OnStar demo in a 9-7x. Got a visor cap for doing so. Did the exit survey and got a t-shirt and some year old JDPowers data on GM.

    -Brian
  • lilbluewgn02lilbluewgn02 PAPosts: 1,087
    was a disappointment this year; fewer competitor cars, shorter course, worse food, and normal for South Florida, lots of rain which cut the event short (of, course, it would have been perfect to show off their AWD capabilities); good thing, good bag with McCartney's new CD and an older one, and a Zagats Guide in leatherette case.
    Serge
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    We knew about the Tiida coming here as a Versa, but Nissan will also bring the Cube (3rd time they've changed their minds).

    That means they'll have competitors to the xA and xB, priced below the Sentra.

    I'm not convinced that Subaru could compete in that price segment, with AWD being a big cost penalty, but still, it's interesting that others are betting on this niche.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    They'll go from 2 mpg to 2.01 mpg. LOL

    Actually, just kidding, they can potentially get the same % or more improvement, and given they use more fuel and often go more miles, they can actually break even sooner.

    -juice
  • njswamplandsnjswamplands Posts: 1,760
    was wondering who is the single person that bought the one single domestic truck from suzuki?

    that is rite, they only sold 1 domestic truck but they beat izuzu who sold 2 import trucks last sept and sold zero this sept.

    never thought i would see the day when maybach would outsell those guys lol
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Probably the Vitara being phased out, I imagine. That's when you get those odd ball statistics, when something is basically out of production already and they only sell left overs.

    The 2 import trucks from Isuzu must have been 2 left over Troopers. The Rodeo and Axiom were domestic.

    -juice
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 8,036
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,724
    On the surface i think this is great news. Need to think a bit more what it means for both companies. Ideally it will be a win-win for both Subaru and Toyota.

    I wonder what that means in terms of the next Saabaru(s)? Go or no-go?

    Bob
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 8,036
    Bob - the WSJ article states that an upcoming SAAB crossover announced last year is now dead - I presume that means the 9-6X. Fuji is taking a $50 million charge off to account for the cancellation. Fuji will continue to make the 9-2X.

    GM walks away with $7-800 million dollars when they need it most. Toyota is only buying 8.7% of Fuji as part of this as they already hold close to 48% of the JDM market - they don't want to incur the wrath of an anti-trust investigation in Japan.

    I see Subaru getting better access to hybrid components and Toyota getting access to better AWD systems for the Lexus line. AWD is becoming a must have in the premium and above segments. At least that's what I hear from the Subanistas.

    Perhaps we'll see a bigger Legacy based on the Camry platform. :D
  • rob_mrob_m Somewhere North of BostonPosts: 808
    Perhaps we'll see a bigger Legacy based on the Camry platform

    Gee, don't they kind of look alike from the back already? ;) Rob M
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 8,036
    Good point - they do look alike.

    I can see it now. The Legacy XL GT with Asymmetrical AWD (left front and right rear only) equipped with automatic only (like most Camrys and the direction Subaru is leaning) and the sport tuned suspension of the Camry.

    Running and ducking!!

    Perhaps the Subaru Tacobaja - wouldn't that be a nice idea.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,724
    The W.O.W. Concept, which stands for "wonderful openhearted wagon," to be shown at the Tokyo show.

    A special crate for dogs in the glove apartment allows owners to interact with their pets while driving. A bigger crate pops up from the floor in the back seat area and can be folded back into the floor when it's not needed. For even bigger dogs, just buckle them up with a special seat belt to the floor. The W.O.W comes with removable, washable, rollout flooring and has wide sliding doors to keep dogs happy.

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    Bob
  • grahampetersgrahampeters AustraliaPosts: 1,669
    G'day

    But where do you store the dog biscuits? Sirius (my Pharoah Hound/Kelpie Cross) is a regular companion in my Kluger and we keep a store of dog biscuits in the glove box and a folding water bowl in the boot (trunk to most of you).

    She would not approve of thi dog-crate idea. Her place is draped over a child or two for their warmth and her comfort.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,724
    Not sure that Annie, our 95 lb. Golden, will fit into a glove compartment. Now juice's "dog-cat hybrid" Hadji will surely fit! ;)

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,724
    Just for all the pot-smoking Subie hippie owners!

    http://just-auto.com/nd.asp?art=49557&dm=yes

    Wonder if this was part of the FHI/Subaru alliance deal, as the timing would certainly suggest it was?

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    You gotta love the wacky concepts at Tokyo, but this one ranks up there with the crazies. Wow. I mean, W.O.W. :)

    Hadji disapproves of the slippery wood floors, incompatible with pet transport.

    I disapprove of the white seats, with a dog that sheds black hair - nightmare.

    Nice try, but thumbs way down.

    -juice
  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    I went to my 2nd of 3 driving events at Arlington Park in Illinois today. Totally different atmosphere compared to the GM show. This was very upscale and high tech.

    The courses were short like the others have been, but still fun. They periodically stopped action to 'showoff' a real dragrace of the RX400h vs. the X3 and the SRX. We even saw them race the GS vs the 530i in one of the courses. ESPN golf analyzer thing was there, massages, and a bunch of food that I have no idea what it really was.

    Got spoiled using the power tilt/telescopic wheel and auto power up and down windows.

    IS250 AWD: new vehicle, exterior is mazda6-like, quite a nice handler, surprising
    IS350: non-AWD, feels more powerful but it really isn't necessary, still surprisingly nice
    GS430: I've always been fond of the looks of this Lexus. Too bad, it was dissapointing, heavy feel, not sporty, much too quiet.
    RX400h: WOW, how strange to accelerate with no motor! First ride in any hybrid, this really was incredible how it did it's thing.
    RX330: probably should have driven this before the 400h. Feels tall and heavy.
    LX470: was able to take this to a side incline crawl (oh the excitement!). Feels very tall, quite roomy.
    GX470: probably the best fit for this motor, still feels tall.
    SC430: sorry, this is not worth $60k. Could fit 4 easier into the Saab 9-3 convertible, and that was more fun to drive. The SC feels like a convertible for Buick owners.
    LS430: big boat feel, quiet, non-eventful drive.

    Also drove a MB E500, BMW 530i, and BMW 330i. On the way out, across from where I parked was a Porsche 911 and a Lotus Elise.

    -Brian
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I like the idea of that vehicle also. It might be a tad small for us, though.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    We'll see. Generally speaking, Americans complain about turbo lag and a lack of throttle response, especially from small displacement engines. They'd rather have a torquey V8 geared really tall vs. a short-geared 4 banger for the most part.

    Subaru should work on tweaking the fuel efficiency of the 2.5T engines, the only real achilles heel they have.

    -juice
  • jeffmcjeffmc Posts: 1,742
    Last week in the Seattle area, a 1994 SVX was used in a televised high-speed car chase, which included the driver going off-road and driving through a golf course. :surprise: The driver was eventually captured after parking in a driveway and fleeing on foot.

    The SVX's owners received less than they had hoped from their insurance company and so have decided to sell the now-infamous (locally, anyway) vehicle on eBay.

    You can read the story and see video footage of the chase here: http://www.komotv.com/news/story_m.asp?ID=39591
    The story, including the owners' decision to sell on eBay, has been picked up by Associated Press.
  • jeffmcjeffmc Posts: 1,742
    http://www.kingcountyjournal.com/sited/story/html/219660
    At least these folks are trying to turn the OJ-like chase scenes featuring their car into something good, and being humorous about it at the same time. They're even trying to sell the screwdriver the guy used to break in & hotwire it.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,724
    Well, since future Saabs will no longer be related to Subies, I guess this news now belongs here in this thread.

    http://www.channel4.com/4car/news/news-story.jsp?news_id=13163&ref=archive

    Bob
  • tsytsy Posts: 1,551
    Hey, anyone here with a lot of auto-x experience? I was thinking about trying it (as well as getting out on a track- taking one of those performance driving schools- I found one nearby)

    Any suggestions on what to get? Old Supra, RX-7, 240 sx, miata? Neon or Impreza? Old BMW?

    Thanks!

    tom
  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    For a driving school, your Legacy GT would be great.

    I would stay away from FWD cars for auto-cross, it can be quite a handicap. I have seen quite a few people running 2.5H4 Imprezas and WRXs.

    Are you looking to get something and run with it, or do you want to spend some time tinkering with wheels/tires, suspension, etc.... ?

    Craig
  • tsytsy Posts: 1,551
    Thanks Craig

    Part of this is your fault, Craig. :D I got to thinking about your S2000 and how fun it'd be to get into auto-x. I'm thinking about trying some events with my GT (if I still have it) but I'm also thinking about building up a pure track car/auto-x car, but I don't want to spend $100k doing it! Just for fun, you know? I saw a mazdaspeed miata which might be fun to start with- or the dealer had a '02 Miata with only 7K miles. What to do?!?!?

    Maybe I could run my minivan? Do they have a minivan category? :D

    tom
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