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Honda Odyssey vs Dodge/Chrysler minivans

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  • jipsterjipster Posts: 5,345
    hans, what happened from the time you test drove your 2006 Sienna to the time you think of it as a disappointment?

    Would you have done anything different in your purchasing decision if you could go back in time?

    If you didn't have enough road time in the Sienna van, you may want to think about renting the 2007 Ody or 2008 GC SXT for about a week to compare.
  • Sound like you are enjoying your Odyssey. Good for you. I hope you travel many happy miles in it.

    Yes I am, and the same to you. Minivans are all to overlooked when it comes to great safe economicial family transportation. I have owned 4 dodges and probably will own more in the future I've done probably 350K+ in them and never got stranded. One trany replacement and no engine problem2. Well my 1992 Caravan with the 3 liter did leak oil after 80K. The dodge didn't have the features I wanted but it had the price. ;) I probably shouldn't have bought it in the first place.
  • hans, what happened from the time you test drove your 2006 Sienna to the time you think of it as a disappointment?

    The toyota dealership personel drugged him before the test drive. How else do you think toyota keeps getting more market share with great customer satisfaction.

    Would you have done anything different in your purchasing decision if you could go back in time?

    He would have bought a Ody so he could trade it in for a Sienna now!! ;)

    If you didn't have enough road time in the Sienna van, you may want to think about renting the 2007 Ody or 2008 GC SXT for about a week to compare.

    Seriously wait for the 2008 GC or T&C to come out you maybe kicking yourself in the pants if it's as good as it seems it will be!! :shades:
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    I test drove a 2004 Sienna and a 2005 Odyssey a few months before we bought the 2006 Sienna.

    At first, I loved the Sienna because of the much more comfortable driver's seat and better performance of the Sienna 3.3L V6 with 5 speed AT than the T&C 3.3L V6 with 4 speed AT.

    However, I was too careless to notice the 2006 Sienna did NOT have a cassette player but had the 6 CD in dash changer with MP3 capability. I have many nice cassettes, not many CD's, and no MP3 player. I also noticed that the shiny surface of the Sienna dash reflects sunlight into my eyes and this summer noticed there is MUCH more wind noise in the Sienna than in the T&C (probably since the roll down windows in sliding doors are recessed whereas the T&C windows are flush). It also became apparent that separately controlled temperature for the driver and front passenger is a MUST HAVE feature in any vehicle for my wife and I.

    What would I have done differently if I could go back in time? I would HAVE kept the 2002 Chrysler T&C LX and just NOT purchase a new vehicle....Sienna (or Odyssey). :shades:
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Posts: 1,564
    Hans,

    You could correct your mistake by dumping the Sienna soon so it does not lose much more depreciation and go back to a T&C or Grand Caravan, and you might nearly break even, with the discounts Chrysler is giving. You probably won't be able to get a cassette player option much longer from any manufacturer, though I see Chrysler still offers that option on one of their sound system combinations. If you don't need all the space, you could even consider a short wheel base version, assuming you can live without stowable seats in either second or third row.

    From what I have observed, most people don't claim that Odyssey is all that quiet a minivan. Hard to beat either the old or new Chrysler twins for quietness

    Or, you can hang on for another year with the Sienna and wait to see what Chrysler's 2008 redesign will bring.

    The least expensive option, unfortunately you do not have anymore, which was to keep the old T&C. (unless you find a creampuff late model used one, perhaps that may be a good option?)

    It is never a good idea to trade away or sell a vehicle you are very happy with, unless it is getting up in mileage or you fear decreased reliability by driving an older vehicle.
  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    "Or, you can hang on for another year with the Sienna and wait to see what Chrysler's 2008 redesign will bring. "

    Probably your best bet, since cars lose a HUGE chunk in depreciation their first year and much less their 2nd (and subsequent) years. You've already lost that first year's depreciation. Selling now just to by ANOTHER new van (Ody or DCX) is just throwing good money after bad.

    Besides, just THINK of the deals you could get on a brand new '07 DCX once the all new '08's hit the dealer lots..... ;)
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,225
    Actually, year one and two for the Honda/Toyota isn't all that bad. Year three and four jumps up a bit. Typically. The domestics take a larger pounding the first couple years. So...you could probably sell/trade the Toyota and buy a 1 or 2 year old T&C and make out like a bandit. I trade every 2-3 years and it's tough to beat the Hondas/Toyotas even if they are more expensive up front.
  • aaron_taaron_t Posts: 301
    Oddy EX doesn't have a cassette player either.

    You should wait for the 2008 DCX minivans so you potentially don't end up in the same situation a year from now.
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,225
    And if the '08 DC vans have a factory cassette player option I'd fall off my chair in disbelief. Gone like yesterday, regardless of how many you've got laying around.

    The Ody does have a dealer-installed Cassette option (as do a lot of other vehicles). It goes where the OEM DVD player goes, so if you have the RES you're out of luck.
  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    "The Ody does have a dealer-installed Cassette option"

    Yep. Or one could buy the cassette player from HandA Accessories (around $190) and install it themselves.

    Instructions:

    http://www.handaaccessories.com/odyssey/05odyplayeratt.pdf
  • aaron_taaron_t Posts: 301
    Or, take the 80's Walkman he has and plug it into the aux input port.

    I meant those to be seperate points. There may be significant improvements to the DCX vans that are worth waiting for. THe prices for competitors should drop as well as outgoing models.
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    I did plug a 2006 "Jensen" Cassette player into the aux input port and it worked. However, it was cumbersome and the Jensen does NOT have the high quality of DC factory cassette players.
    I noticed that the 2007 Odyssey has the following optional accessories: cassette player, an MP3 adaptor, or a genuine I-pod connection accessory. Honda seems to be smarter with accessories than Toyota.
    My wife likes the overhead console with compass, outside temperature and trip computer which alienates her against the Odyssey EX.
    Considering all nice features, the DC minivans provide the greatest number of features we want in a minivan even though they don't get the "Most Recommended" for purchase award from CR, MT, or Edmunds. The fact that a DC minivan can be purchased with options we want for thousands $$$$$$ less than the Odyssey may trump my feeling that the Odyssey is "THE BEST MINIVAN". ;)
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Posts: 1,564
    Maybe you should purchase a 12V-DC to 120V AC converter, and plug your home stereo tape deck into it in your minivan and then connect it to the aux input. Don't know how a stereo system tape deck would take the bouncing around, and the tape deck is likely to be a bit bulky. Good thing minivans have a lot of space available, and most ride fairly smoothly! It might also not react well to the wide ranging temperatures that can occur in a minivan sitting in the heat or in the cold.
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    The BEST way to have quality music from cassettes is to dump the Sienna and get either a new 2007 Odyssey EX and get the optional cassette player or a new DaimlerChrysler minivan where a quality cassette player is standard equipment. :shades:
  • aaron_taaron_t Posts: 301
    Dude, it's a cassette. How much quality do you expect to get? The tape loses sound quality every time you play it. You also used a Jensen portable cassette player. Maybe a better quality one would sound better. Is the inconvienece worth losing $5-7k on your 2006 Sienna?
  • dennisctcdennisctc Posts: 1,168
    IPOD IPOD IPOD IPOD IPOD IPOD!!!!
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Posts: 1,564
    You could by a lot of CD's to replace your tapes for the money you will lose by dumping the Sienna now, even if you don't want to go the ipod route.
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,225
    You could by a lot of CD's to replace your tapes for the money you will lose by dumping the Sienna now, even if you don't want to go the ipod route.

    No doubt. I was surprised at how cheap a lot of "old" CD's were. I was flipping through CD's awhile back and some were under $5. I've moved all my collection to mp3 as well. Well, I paid a kid to do it for me. Didn't take him long to rip 6gig of music for me.
  • jipsterjipster Posts: 5,345
    Any computer nerd worth his weight in floppy discs should be able to copy hans cassettes onto C. D. :shades:
  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    Well, to be fair to hansienna, from what I understand he wants a cassette player because he has a collection of books on tape (BTW - I've never listened to a book on tape, but usually when I read a book I don't really have any desire to reread it for several years. Is it different with books on tape? :confuse:)

    So, from that standpoint, it might be a bit more difficult to simply 'replace' his cassette collection with CD's.

    And ripping music and stuff from CD's to mp3 certainly can be pretty quick (I can typically rip a 60 minute album to mp3's in about 5 minutes). But converting analog sources (stuff on cassettes or vinyl albums) CAN'T be done (AFAIK) any faster than normal playback speed. And somehow I doubt hansienna wants to go through the hassle of playing ALL those tapes, at normal playback speed, into a computer for conversion to mp3s.

    I went through this awhile ago with my collection of cassettes and vinyl; it was a royal PITA to play back the albums, one track at a time (to get the individual .wav files). But at least now I'm able to listen to stuff I haven't listened to in YEARS in my car.....
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