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New Ford F-350 Trucks

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  • richflynnrichflynn Posts: 147
    ljrt,

    I'm sorry I couldn't find the 'real' US Gear web page. If you find it, please drop me an e-mail.

    Thanks,
    Rich
  • BrutusBrutus Posts: 1,113
    richflynn,

    Thanks for the info. I just spent the past 4 1/2 years in Southern CA. My job transferred me from Anchorage Alaska to our office in Chatsworth. I lived in Simi until the quake. Our building was damaged, so I was transferred to Irvine in Orange County. OC was pretty nice. I know what you mean about the roads, but I was very comfortable with the ride of my 92 F-250 4x4. I never used the 4x4 in Southern CA, but used it much of the winter in Alaska and on the dirt/mud roads to the salmon fishing spots. I will be getting 4x4 on the new truck, even though I won't use it much here in Dallas. I still plan on getting back to snow country somewhere. I like the four seasons.

    I've been hearing about a proposed CA law that would make all trucks with gears lower than 3.08 fail the emissions. Any truth?

    How much extra are you having to pay for the weight of the truck? When I first registered mine in CA in 1993, I didn't know I had to get it weighed. I had a fiberglass shell on and one of my gas tanks was full. I came in at 5,300 pounds, so they added $140 to my annual fee.

    It will be interesting to see how smooth the ride is on the new trucks. I've always felt my truck has run smooth, especially on cruise control. The speed limit through Arizona and New Mexico is 75, so I was setting the cruise control just under 80 and it ran smooth. I've got the 3.55 ratio. I've taken several long trips with the truck. When I was in CA, I made one round trip to Seattle and a second trip to Seattle and over to Missoula MT. I got on I-15 in Montana, and took it through Salt Lake, Las Vegas and right into Orange County. I also made a roundtrip from CA to Ft. Huachuca southwest of Tuscon AZ to visit my brother. In 1993, I drove from Anchorage to Los Angeles and, of course, I drove from CA to TX in November. I've got no complaints about the ride of the truck, but I'm still looking forward to the new truck.
  • richflynnrichflynn Posts: 147
    Brutus,
    I see why your truck rides smoother! It is the shell. It adds just enough weight to make the springs do their jobs.

    My weight fee is about $140 and with both tanks full, some luggage, test equipment and myself the truck weighs 6670.

    A friend at work has a Dodge super cab (1/2 Ton) with a shell and carpet kit. It rides very smooth and totally unlike any other Dodge I ever been in. Again it must be the weight.

    Enjoy Dallas! I'd much rather be there than here!
    Rich
  • BrutusBrutus Posts: 1,113
    I sold the shell a couple of years ago, so half those trips were made without it. I've just never had a complaint about the ride. On long trips, I just hit the cruise control and the truck hums along. The truck has never been out of alignment. I can drive it with one finger on the wheel.....but of course, I don't for safety reasons.

    I imagine anything I might lose in ride comfort on long highway trips when moving up to the F-350 will be gained with the bigger engine. So far, the reviewers in the magazines say the V-10 is very smooth. I found articles on the new truck in the latest editions of Truck Trend magazine and Off Road magazine. Those are in addition to the ones from TruckWorld and Fourwheeler, which I read on the web.
  • turnhenaturnhena Posts: 1
    We are thinking about buying the new F350. Now, we have a 1992 F350 diesel turbo charged, that 'eats transmissions' almost every year. We have put in five new ones so far. Now it is time to get rid of the thing.
    Has anyone heard much about the new 99 F350's. I'm a bit worried about buying another one. We pull a 35' fifth wheel.
    Any suggestions.
    Thanks,
    Anne & Bob
  • BrutusBrutus Posts: 1,113
    Anne & Bob,

    It appears that Ford has made a lot of changes for 1999. They are also using a new transmission. The site listed below is the best site I have found for information on the new trucks. It used to be called Jason's Powerstroke, but recently changed it's name to the Ford Diesel Website. It appears to have a lot of technical info on the diesel. It also has links to other sites that have articles on the trucks and it has pricing info. The site can be found at:

    www.abol.com/users/jlester/info.htm
  • jdbjdb Posts: 20
    Two weeks ago I ordered a 99 F-350. The sales guy used a computer terminal to verify the options but stated he was not authorized to actually "place the order" with Ford.. Is it reasonable to expect that after two weeks that they would have some sort of order confirmation to verify that an order actually was placed? Does anyone know the process?
  • richflynnrichflynn Posts: 147
    jdb,
    I did the same thing. It all depends upon what part of the week you placed the order. I've been told that Ford "Picks up" the orders once a week. It's on Thursday night to Friday morning. On the west coast it is at 9 PM Thursday. (Give or take a few minutes.) It takes a week to process and get a response back. So if the timing is right it could take 3 weeks. Then figgure 3 to 6 weeks from that point to delivery. Again it depends upon the assembly planning and scheduling.

    I'm going by ordering mine towards the end of February, either a Friday or Saturday and deliver is scheduled for April 6, at the dealer.

    Rich
  • I have been looking around for a 99 F350 4x4,SRW with Powerstroke, crew cab. All I can find is auto tran and I want manual. Dealer says to order is 12-16 wks. Can you really get a better price ordering? Have heard that it cuts out the middle man and enables you to get better price. Also, ran into a guy on lot who is picking his up 4/10, a F350, 2wd, 4 door, powerstroke with all Lariat options, 6 spd. manual, and he got it for 28K plus title,tag and tax. Can I get this deal?
  • BrutusBrutus Posts: 1,113
    The feedback from many people on this site is that you can order the new truck for about 4% over invoice. I've heard a range of $1,200-$1,300 over dealer invoice, which is about the same. One person in San Francisco says that he ordered his for $500 over invoice. I would not pay more than $1,300 over dealer invoice since it sounds like you can get that with a little bit of shopping around.
  • drozdroz Posts: 30
    I just ordered an F-250 superduty 1999 for $400 over invoice. It can be done but it takes some dickering between dealers. They knew I wanted one and knew I could get it at that price. Of course, I have to see if I ever get it.
  • BrutusBrutus Posts: 1,113
    Anyone in the Dallas area get one for $400-$500 over dealer invoice?
  • jdbjdb Posts: 20
    Brutus,

    Check out this site, it just up in Oklahoma...


    www.isbellford.com

    says he will sell you a Ford for $99 under invoice!!!
  • coyotecoyote Posts: 3
    I ordered a '99 F-350 4X4 CrewCab Diesel yesterday from a small dealer in West Texas @ $500.00 over dealer invoice. He made no promises as to delivery date but anticipates the truck around June 1. Since I need to sell my '93 version of the same truck, I'm in no hurry. If anyone is interested in a "cherry" 4X4 vehicle w/ 47,000 easy miles on it, give me a shout. It really is a peach" for $20,000!

    I tried to trade here in Dallas, but these arrogant sons of bitches do not want to deal at all!! To hell with 'em! There are still a lot of dealers out there that realize you are the customer and actually want your business.

    Coyote
    lfly@kpmg.com
  • jdbjdb Posts: 20
    Brutus,

    That's great!! I ordered my F-350 supercab 4X4 out here in CA. for the $500 over invoice and it also included the gas and advertising plus use tax, weight tax and registration tax.

    My order went in 3/6, I'll let you know when the rig shows up! I'll then be driving up to Oregon to pick up the camper I bought to put on it.
  • rite3rite3 Posts: 69
    I have a question about the crew cab. Does the rear seat have head rests when you get the capts chairs ? We saw the cc without them and it dousnt have head rests like last year.Any one know? Thanks.
  • BrutusBrutus Posts: 1,113
    jdb,

    I made the I-5 run from southern CA to Washington numerous times. It will be a good run for the new truck. It's pretty much cruise control until you get around Redding and Mt. Shasta. Then you will get to do some winding and climbing through the mountains in Northern CA and Southern Oregon. I always got better mileage heading south. I'm not sure if it was headwinds or more climbing. You won't be able to tell since you will have a camper on the way back. Not really a fair comparison. What kind of camper did you get?
  • jdbjdb Posts: 20
    Brutus,


    I got a 10 1/2 ft. Bigfoot 2500!
  • BrutusBrutus Posts: 1,113
    dsl,

    I must have got lucky last week when I called Isbell and ordered my truck. I got through on the 800 number the first time. I spoke with a guy named Danny Ware. He took my order in about 10 minutes and then faxed me the invoice for confirmation of the specs and pricing about 10 minutes later. I reviewed the specs over the weekend and then faxed the confirmation back on Tuesday. Danny called me back at the office before I even had a chance to get back to my desk from the fax machine. I'm very satisfied. Is it June yet?
  • fredwoodfredwood Posts: 79
    To rite3,

    I asked a ford dealer about the head rests in the back seat and they said NO they are not available. Looked at 4X4 f350, wow!..just dont like the steering wheel and the big "mouth" grill. Ford's really tempting this chevy fan.
  • BrutusBrutus Posts: 1,113
    A bigger grill to let those bigger engines breathe, right?
  • fredwoodfredwood Posts: 79
    The truck I looked at was HUGE! 4x4, V10 aluminum rims,fully loaded all for $33,000MSRP with no markup. A fully loaded 4X4 four runner is $36,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The only problem with the ford is that I almost got sucked into the grill when the V10 fired up.
  • BrutusBrutus Posts: 1,113
    I'll have to remember not to start my truck up behind a Chevy. I wouldn't want to get any garbage in the engine. Just kidding, of course. Chevy makes a good truck. I just couldn't resist.

    That sounds pretty close to the truck I ordered, a fully loaded F-350 SuperCab 4x4 V10. The MSRP on mine was $32,795. The cab is the largest of any full size truck. The Supercab has a total volume of 114.5 cubic feet. Compared to the Dodge, the Ford has almost one inch more front seat headroom, 1.7 inches more front hip room, .8 inches more rear leg room and .3 inches more rear shoulder room. The Dodge did have .9 inches more rear seat head room.
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    Dimensional increments like that are nice for the ads, but whether or not it's usable is another story. The Dodge seats are much higher off the floor, thus allowing one to extend their feet under the front seats. I can roll a two-liter bottle of soda under the front seat of my Ram and not hit anything.

    Fird did a good job with the Super Duty series, and I respect their efforts. There are just a few things that will keep me out of a Ford again until they're addressed:

    1 - Why does Ford assume I'm a a moron and can't read a gauge? Having auxiliary gauges is great, but a gauge that just says "NORMAL" is as useless as the idiot light it replaced.

    2 - When will they take the hint that the headlights are too high? I parked my 93 F150 side by side with my 96 Ram 3500 when I got it and despite the Dodge being nearly 5 inches taller, the headlights were closer to the ground. I don't have people flashing their lights at me any more.

    3 - Please go back to a simple pull-knob for the lights - it's a no-brainer to operate, and that's what all controls should be - no-brainers. If I want to turn on the dome light, I have to *think* about where that thumbwheel is, and which direction to roll it.

    4 - Why can't Ford design a back seat with a full-height seatback that's not dead vertical like the new F150? That half-seat in the Super Duty trucks with the glued-to-the-wall upper cushion is basically the same seat they've used since 1980.

    I won't get into Ford dealers, since there are no competent ones here in north NJ... another reason I went Dodge. If you have a decent truck like my 90 Ford, or a piece of crap like my 93, you shouldn't have to go to 5 different dealers and two independent shops to get the darn thing serviced or repaired.

    Depending on what Dodge does to upgrade the Ram for 1999 and 2000, we'll see what my next baby-semi will be.
  • BrutusBrutus Posts: 1,113
    I think the things you mention above prove a point. Dodge and Ford are both making solid enough vehicles that we can make decisions based on things that are really minor when compared to the entire package. If Dodge had a lousy engine, poor tranny, and crappy appearance, you wouldn't buy it just because of the things you mentioned above. But that's not the case, so we have more quality choices. Competition is a good thing.

    I've done all of my maintenance at Ford dealerships and have no complaints, except a minor beef with one place. I'm sure it cost a little more for me to go to dealerships, but they have always fixed the problem the first time. As you probably know, I'm a satisfied owner of a 92 F-250HD 4x4. It's going to be tough to part with it. At the same time, I can't wait for the new rig.
  • jdbjdb Posts: 20
    kcram,



    For the answer to question #1 see question #3...
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    I don't think so, jdb. If I have no idea what the range on a gauge is, then I have no way of telling if something requires my attention (or a mechanic's). A gauge conveys information; a control requires my physical action. Would you accept a speedometer that read "0 - city - suburban - highway" instead of the numbers 0-100? Of course not. So why accept a temperature gauge that says NORMAL right up until its redline? On the other hand, I want the door handle to be somewhere my hand expects it without having to look for it. Same for the light switch, window controls (whether manual or power), and HVAC (although the knobs are quite functional, remember how easy it was to slide everything to the left with just a finger?). Look at the dash of a class 8 semi like a Kenworth or Freightliner. It's nothing but gauges and switches. Nothing cute, all functional.

    Brutus is right - the basic truck is good enough that we can nitpick on the little things that make the truck comfortable. When I get around to replacing my Ram, it will be a pretty fair fight between another Dodge and the F350, but it will be the little things that make the difference.
  • rite3rite3 Posts: 69
    The little things have been an area of concern for me as well. I am still looking at both ford and dodge. Ford is in the lead more at this point because I want a crew cab 1ton with a shortbox and dodge does not offer one without duallies. Chevy is going to offer the cc I want next year, but I feel this is just a stop gap measure until they complete the redesign of their over 8500gvwr trucks and I would like to see the new body first. I just cant wait that long. I did go down to the dealer yesterday and they had 6 of the 99's on the lot. One was a cc 1ton lariat srw in saddle tan and it was beutifull. I looked at a supercab and I liked it but when my 4 year old attempted to sit in the rear seat the first thing she did was hit her head on the rear window. I know that sounds like it would be hard to do, but kids tend to take their seats in a way that is usually a half sooch/bounce and although once she settled in her head was lower than the glass, it was getting there that resulted in the dull thump. I could see that in a short few years , or maybe even months, we would have a problem if we were ever to get in an accident. I just dont understand the whole lack of headrests thing. Last year the cc had them and this year nothing. If visibility in backing up is a problem, make them removable. I like the fact that the dodge has the quad cab now and I have heard the cummins is an excelent motor, if I hear anything about them increasing the number of configurations availible before the fall I will definately be interested. It also seems like the dodge folks really want to do buisness. We have a dealer in the northwest in kellogg Idaho who sells new dodges and GM's for 58 dollars over invioce. The ford dealer here gave me a brochure and was polite but wasnt realy to excited about the prospect of not being able to sell me one immediatly for 50% of full msrp. If any one knows about a dealer in the northwest who is selling the 99's cheap please let me know. The dodge dealer is at www.davesmith.com
  • MontMont Posts: 2
    Just tried out a 99' F-350 supercab dually powerstroke with 4:10's. Used it for 300 miles to pull a 7x24' stock trailer with 12k inside plus trailer wt of 7700 #. It only had about 2000 miles on it and pulled fairly good but did'nt feel as strong as I expected. I've had two Ford diesels, 84' 6.9 4 spd manual and 93' 7.3 auto then switched to 97' Dodge Cummins 3500 5 spd, all have had 4:10's. I was going to trade 93' for F-350 but after trying one will go with another Dodge. We pull an 8x28' stock trailer with 14-15k inside with that, almost 50k without a problem, but the truth starts showing about 150k. I got it for the Cummins, starts good in ND, pulls good, but the rest of the PU is'nt bad.
  • BrutusBrutus Posts: 1,113
    Has anyone got their new Ford's yet? Has anyone gotten build or delivery dates? It's been 10 days since I ordered mine and I haven't heard a thing. Just kidding. I was told 12 weeks and I just want to see if it is taking longer.
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