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Ford Transmission Problems
Has anyone seen this problem before?
My son has a '94 with auto trans.
It will shift through 1st and 2nd ok.
But does not ever shift into 3rd.
At the point it would have normally shift into
Overdrive
It goes into "neutral"condition. Pressing the
Overdrive Lockout
will return it to 2nd. No other problems seen,
fluid good,
1st and 2nd shift crisp and gear is strong.
I'm wondering if this could be something
electrical.
Any help would be appreciated.
Harvey
My son has a '94 with auto trans.
It will shift through 1st and 2nd ok.
But does not ever shift into 3rd.
At the point it would have normally shift into
Overdrive
It goes into "neutral"condition. Pressing the
Overdrive Lockout
will return it to 2nd. No other problems seen,
fluid good,
1st and 2nd shift crisp and gear is strong.
I'm wondering if this could be something
electrical.
Any help would be appreciated.
Harvey
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You don't say what kind of vehicle.
I've had sensor problems that have affected the E4OD in my '92 F-250. The ABS sensor affected the spedometer and transmission shifting. The throttle position sensor affected transmission shifting. The tachometer sensor affected transmission shifting.
The ABS was obvious due to the idiot light. I read the flash code and determined that the sensor was bad. ($130 at the dealer.) The TPS, I had no clue. ($160 at the dealer.) The tachometer was obvious due to wierd tachometer fluctuations. I changed that for $56 in parts and less than 10 minutes.
I would also check the Autotrans ECM and make sure that the connector is tight and not corroded.
I took it in to Cal Worthington's in Anchorage because even though it was way past the 3/36, it was still within the 100,000 mile powertrain warranty.They promptly replaced the transmissions computer . The Service manager told me it was because the computer was considered part of the mechanics of the transmission. Because it controlled the transmissions functions.
If you are not past the powertrain coverage on the truck you might want to have it looked at by a dealer. If it is past, then have whoever's going to look at it check the codes and keep their eyes open for a problem in the computer.
auto w/od. only 61k miles. started slipping in and out of neutral from overdrive. had aamco transmission check it out. they said no computer signals and no apparent problems and could not get problem to duplicate. however, they also said they see same problem in police cars and taxi's with this tranny and it is some gear (forget the name) that just wears out and the tranny eventually will not go into o/d. advised me to keep driving until the gear wears out and then take it to ford. meanwhile, i've already made a trade in with dealer when my new '99 superduty comes in, so i'm praying for delivery and taking it easy until then.
Magic words here,
'Just replaced the transmission fluid'
There are several types of ATF. Is it possible that whoever replaced your fluid used the wrong type? I've seen other types of transmissions just go to do-do with the wrong type of fluid.
Rich
Thanks for the advice, but, uh, been there done that. I used the ford tranny fluid(cant remember the name) and it didnt help. Besides now there is something wrong in the ignition(i have had the switch replaced) and i have it torn down in my drivway.
P.S. tranny dosent help if it don't start, right.
going in. the last time they said they put a new
tranny in. But guess what its 4000 mile later &
Iam going back. Ive got 42,000 on it. Going to
trade it in. I guess. any advise
1 & 2nd gear. I already had grinding going in to 3
they replaced shifting forks. That was all!
IT fixed my problem with 1 & 2. but why wouldn't
they replaced syncros and bearing? HELP please
sigh Donna the owner of the original purple lemon
just in case you didn't realize the message above
is my also
Anyway, I'm in the market for another truck but don't know whether or not to even get within 10 miles of a Ford stealership. Though the new Rangers do look nice...and can all those buyers be wrong? My QUESTION IS Would buying the Mazda version make a difference?
A friend of mine is a Ryder mechanic. Sayes the Ford AOD trans are junk. 75,000mi and there history. Must be swapped as you can't fix them. I'de suggest the extended warrenty via the internet.
I don't know about the parts being $10. My tach sensor was almost $60 at the dealer. The parts guy was surprised that it failed. He didn't have any in stock due to low failure rate.
Hummmmmm? Makes one wonder how many transmissions have been "worked on" when replacing the sensor would suffice.
Rich
Under mostly commuter-like use, with very little "real" work to speak of and less than 40,000km, I've had two major tranny rebuilds including converter replacement to keep this unit on the road. I'm almost afraid to drive around empty let alone work it as it hasn't proven robust enough to pull it's own weight without frying the guts out.
Quite disappointing for a long time Ford driver and all good experiences with earlier vehicles.
Anyone know of any tricks (short of getting a race shop to built a mega dollars gear mixer)to make the slip'o matic driveline in this truck live up to the potential of the rest of the package? Or is this one that should just be walked away from?
Thanks for any insights or comments on this problem.
I had a '92 F-250 SC with 7.3L. At 99,700 I took the truck in to have the fluid changed etc. The dealer saved me $26 by changing the auto trans. They found metal shavings in the pan. All done under Ford ESP waranty. This was about a year after driving through about a mile of water in the two foot deep range. I've heard that if water gets into the trans it causes problems down the road.
You shouldn't be having those problems. Ask your Dealer to get the Ford zone manager involved. Something is definitely wrong.
Rich
Does anyone have experience or opinions as to
whether it will hold up?
Will the Chevy hold up?
Which chevy? The current 3500 or the light-duty Silverado?
tralering large 5th wheels? I now pull a 37' with a 18' pontoon on back of 5th wheel with a 96 dodge
diesel 2500 4x4 5 speed. I would like to a gas burner but not dodge. I like fords f250 hevey duty
4x4 but I dont know any thing about the v10.
I have the V10 in a crew cab DRW 4X4 with the 4.30:1 gears and get around 10mpg in town and 11.5 mpg on the highway, with reformulated gas. When towing, I've been getting around 9.5mpg-10mpg highway (7000#, cruise, O/D) Folk with the 3.73:1 gears (which I would recommend for long hauls) are reporting 12-12.5mpg city and 13-14mpg on the highway empty.
Assuming that its an XLT with a LWB and the big engine, in perfect condition with every option offered, the Edmunds Used Truck Guide puts the maximum price (retail dealership) at $7630. A more realistic price (wholesale, ie: private seller) would be $5017, again assuming perfect condition with every possible option.
Over $2000 of that price is credit for low mileage, which puts it close to half the base price of the truck (unlikely). I wouldn't expect to pay more than $5000, and for that much it'd better be immaculate.
details: 1990 2wd XLT longbed. 4 cyl auto. Used
almost always as a commuter vehicle. Bought from
the original owner with 49K. Tranny went at 53K.
Rear end(!)went at 57K Tranny went again before
60K (rebuilt free). Fuel pump went about 70K
leaving me stranded and requiring a tow. Engine
went at 88K leaving me stranded and requiring a
tow. Paint begin flaking off the roof, hood, etc
at 65K. Tranny went AGAIN at 108K. Oil has been
changed faithfully at 3-4K (4K max). In addition
battery, brakes, tires, exhaust, ABS ($$$) module
all went. It is (I still own it) by far the single
most expensive vehicle I have ever tried to keep
running reliably. As a contrast - I bought a 1984
Mazda SE5 pickup new for about $6K and drove it
159K without even changing the clutch. Ford Ranger
again? No thanks! I'll get a Nissan or Toyota.
In 1998 I compared the Dakota, Ranger, Nissan, and Toyota trucks. Here's the BS I went through and maybe it will help a little with your decision.
At first I used the sticker price when comparing the aforementioned trucks. All trucks were loaded as loaded could be except for the manual tranny (I hate driving automatics). All were extended cab 4WD as well. Anyway, the Toyota Tacoma was 27k, the Dakota was 25k, the Ranger was 23k, and the Nissan was about 20k (except they didn't have a V6 at the time).
I wound up with the Ranger for the following reasons: I was able to buy it for less than invoice ($18,500), it drove very well, and the 4WD system is the nicest I've used. Other reasons were that the Toyota dealers were (all of them) arrogant, stuck up, and they wouldn't deal on price at all. I also found out that Toyota was, and to some degree still is, having terrible problems with head gaskets. I passed on the Dodge becasue it was over 4k more in cost (and the V6 4WD was a dog...a V8 is requisite equipment in this truck), and V6 or no, the Nissan is a joke as far as a truck is concerned.
I ordered a Ranger the way I wanted it and it arrived with build quality similar to Japenese vehicles. That's where the pleasant experience ended. My Ranger turned out to be a piece of crap. It was assembled very well, but parts quality seems to be a problem. I owned it 6 months with the dealer having it half the time. Several clutch actuators had to be replaced, the rear brakes locked up anytime it rained or snowed, the tranny got hosed up after the second actuator replacement, it had interior material quality problems, and something that just plain blows up here in the northern climates is that ALL Rangers have a problem with defrosting the right side of the windshield. It would get so bad during heavy snows that I coulkd only see out the driver's side and the wiper would freeze to the base of the windshield. BTW, they never could fix the problems my truck was having, so I got rid of it.
The short story is that I wish I had bought the Dakota. It appears to be a much better truck overall even thought the 4WD set up is stupid. Even though they say it's shift on the fly, the extremely short 4WD knob is on the floor under the dash. Try shifting to 4WD while moving and you'll be picking pedestrians out of your grill.
The moral is they're all expensive and none are perfect. However, 90% of the people I know who've owned a Ranger have equated it with a form of fruit which is yellow in color..........if you know what I mean.
Good Luck!